2017 Wimbledon Championships - Men

[mrzz]

Nadal´s draw is a nightmare, Djokovic´s is walk in the park -- barring a good showing of del Potro, but unfortunately I do not think it happens, even if I´ll root for it.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Nadal´s draw is a nightmare, Djokovic´s is walk in the park -- barring a good showing of del Potro, but unfortunately I do not think it happens, even if I´ll root for it.

Explain..I see it the opposite way

 

[the AntiPusher]

Calling an obvious possibility is not a jinx. It makes me laugh that people call Tignor a jinx. We all have our superstitions, I guess.

People on his own board tennis.com calls him the kiss of death..he knows it..i typically don't subscribe to the philosophy of a jinx but Tignor at times makes me feel different..

 

[Moxie]

People on his own board tennis.com calls him the kiss of death..he knows it..i typically don't subscribe to the philosophy of a jinx but Tignor at times makes me feel different..

Oh, I know where it comes from. I still find it tiresome.

 

[kskate2]

Keli, couldn't you find a better picture of Rafa..not the dreaded encounter with Dustin Brown..I broke so many objects in the house, the misuse made me sleep on the couch for a month!

I know you not giving me the bizness over a pic! Like a different pic would change the outcome.

 

[the AntiPusher]

I know you not giving me the bizness over a pic! Like a different pic would change the outcome.

You know "sensitive " we are...

 

[mrzz]

Explain..I see it the opposite way

Novak R1: Klizan, can play well, but is no grass specialist, is not laying well as of late, as is the biggest head case I ever seen in tennis (seriously, I watched him here at SP).

Nadal R1: Milmann, easier on paper but an Australian who can play on grass, and played a few warm up tournaments on grass. Serves big. Tinny chance for a monster upset.

But I will be nice and say Djokovic has a harder R1 (even if I do not actually think so).

Novak R2: winner of Pavlasek/Escobedo.

Nadal R2: winner of Istomin/Young, most likely Young. Young is playing quite well lately (as you noted elsewhere), can play on grass, and played a hard match against Djokovic on Eastbourne. Istomin can hit big too.

Nadal has a much, much tougher R2.

Djokovic R3: probably del Potro, maybe Kokkinakis. del Potro played zero tune ups, lost twice do Djokovic this year. Kokk surely has potential, but it is young and coming from a long injury break.

Nadal most likely R3: Kachanov, maybe Kuznetsov. Kachanov is playing really well, specially on grass (he was ripping the ball in Halle). I say he is my best pick for a surprise result this tournament. Kuznetsov is also a fine in-form young player.

Nadal has then, again, a much much tougher R3, for me the toughest R3 from all higher seeds.


Djokovic prob. opponents on R4: Lopez or Monfils. Lopez is a hard test, if he gets there, I give you that. In fact, if it wasn´t for him, Djokovic´s draw would be the easier draw of all time. Monfils is a guaranteed win for Djokovic.

Nadal probable opponents on R4: Karlovic/Muller, both tough grass courters, with recent good results on grass (and titles). Muller has upset Nadal before, and always gives him a tough match.

So even on R4. Lopez, if he gets there, can be seen as the better player, but the match up factor for Nadal, in Muller case, evens it out, to say the least. And nobody wants to face Karlovic going deep at Wimbledon.


Djokovic prob R5: Berdych, Gasquet, Thiem. Thiem is a "cow on ice". Berdych days of being dangerous seem to be over, and Gasquet could be a threat (unlikely).

Nadal prob R5: Cilic, Nishikori. Cilic plays well on grass, and is playing well lately. He is one of the best, if not the best, outside bet for the title (I mean, out of the big 4). Nishikori, if he gets there, would surely be a threat.

Nadal has then a much tougher R5.

From then on, anything could happen. I agree that Federer would be a much harder SF opponent than Murray, but if all of them make it to the semis, it is a straight fight for the title.

 

[atttomole]

Nadal´s draw is a nightmare, Djokovic´s is walk in the park -- barring a good showing of del Potro, but unfortunately I do not think it happens, even if I´ll root for it.

It's the other way round I think.

 

[Fiero425]

It's the other way round I think.

Maybe it's the okey-doke to save our Nole so he'd get to the semi's at least! :whistle:

 

[atttomole]

Maybe it's the okey-doke to save our Nole so he'd get to the semi's at least! :whistle:

I think he should try to win the French Open again, for a double career slam.

 

[DarthFed]

I don't think any of the top seeds have nightmare draws or a cakewalk. On paper Fed's would usually be the hardest but Dimitrov, Raonic and Djokovic all go into this struggling.

 

[Fiero425]

I think he should try to win the French Open again, for a double career slam.

I've said that in the past! Since it doesn't look like he'll be able to surpass Roger in the "majors" category; he still has a real chance with other records like Double CGS, the most Masters, and a few others! Roger will still own most records with excellence not seen in the Open era on the men's side! It was a lot easier with the ladies; evenly spread over 50 years with Court, Evert, Navratilova, Graf, Seles, Hingis, S. Williams, and Henin! Each taking their turn being the best of their era; Navratilova far and away the best IMO with 167 singles & 177 doubles' titles! No one will ever come close!

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Fed describes his basic philosophy at this year's Wimbledon.


The philosophy is the same during matches. An attacking style to shorten points, the occasional serve-and-volley, and the more powerful backhand he displayed in Australia against Nadal all can help save energy.

"I don't want to be at the mercy of my opponent. I want to take charge, play aggressive myself," Federer said. "So for that, I need to be fast on my feet and quick in my mind. I just need enough rest so I can play enough inspired tennis."

 

[El Dude]

Fiero, you're forgetting Billie Jean King, slotted between Court and Evert.

 

[Moxie]

 

[Moxie]

Murray, Nadal, Stan and Cilic all in action tomorrow. Also, Nick and Kei. Some interested matches on offer: Verdasco v. Anderson, Cilic v. Kohlscreiber?

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Here is one final look at the odds about 12 hours before the first ball is struck.

Novak's stock has risen with his new title and Andy is not even a co-favorite any more.

1. Federer 9/4
2. Novak / Rafa 5
3. Andy 13/2
4. Cilic 18
5. Raonic 20
6. Sasha 30
7. Stan 33
8. Nick 40
9. Thiem / Grigor 50
10. Tsonga 66
11. JMDP 100

Next in line is Kei with 120 and then Muller and Lopez tied at 125. Pouille, Gasquet and Berdych are tied at 150.

 

[Moxie]

Here is one final look at the odds about 12 hours before the first ball is struck.

Novak's stock has risen with his new title and Andy is not even a co-favorite any more.

1. Federer 9/4
2. Novak / Rafa 5
3. Andy 13/2
4. Cilic 18
5. Raonic 20
6. Sasha 30
7. Stan 33
8. Nick 40
9. Thiem / Grigor 50
10. Tsonga 66
11. JMDP 100

Next in line is Kei with 120 and then Muller and Lopez tied at 125. Pouille, Gasquet and Berdych are tied at 150.

I think they were right to move Cilic up.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Here are couple of intriguing matchups of day 1 that are evenly poised and anything could happen.

1. Shapalov the teenager who got wildcard is meeting JJ who reached SF at Wimbledon few years ago.
2. The Fed crusher Stakhovsky is meeting another guy who had given trouble (but did not beat) to Fed at
Wimbledon, viz., Benneteau.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Seriously hoping Shapo can beat JJ. Make use of the WC.