2016 Wimbledon SF: Federer vs. Raonic

[Kieran]

Dream on, brother. :laydownlaughing

It's got nothing to do with talent. No man can hold back the tide! And at Federers age, well we're in "miracle" territory right now, straining credibility and probably touching it over the edge, depending what happens next...

 

[GameSetAndMath]

1. Fed played two more sets than the absolute minimum to get to SF. But, Milos played three more sets (two extra against Goffin and one extra against Sam).

2. Also, Fed has spent 9 hours 20 minutes on court compared to 11 hours and 38 minutes of Milos.

These disparities should help to compensate the age difference as well.

Finally, at the request of JMac, Milos will try to come in more and either get passed or botch volleys.
It is lot of fun to watch Milos botch volleys.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Tignor expects Murderer finals

 

[Kieran]

Two hours extra on court wouldn't cancel out ten years difference in age, or 20 years, or whatever it is.

But I agree about Milos rumbling obediently into the net, eyes terrified and racket held to a formula, and the whole edifice crumbling about his feet while he wonders what to do. I used to howl with laughter watching Roddick tap a patsy into Roger's pocket and rush forward according to the plan, only to wheel about like a windmill trying to hit the ball...

 

[DarthFed]

1. Fed played two more sets than the absolute minimum to get to SF. But, Milos played three more sets (two extra against Goffin and one extra against Sam).

2. Also, Fed has spent 9 hours 20 minutes on court compared to 11 hours and 38 minutes of Milos.

These disparities should help to compensate the age difference as well.

Finally, at the request of JMac, Milos will try to come in more and either get passed or botch volleys.
It is lot of fun to watch Milos botch volleys.

Overall time spent is relevant especially for Roger but the fact of the matter is what immediately preceded the semi (a fairly brutal 5 setter) is more relevant here. If he had dropped a set in his first two matches and then won the rest in straights he may have spent the same amount of time on court but he'd be a lot better off heading into the semis.

 

[DarthFed]

Dream on, brother. :laydownlaughing

It's got nothing to do with talent. No man can hold back the tide! And at Federers age, well we're in "miracle" territory right now, straining credibility and probably touching it over the edge, depending what happens next...

It has everything to do with talent. Roger was never going to drop from extremely dominant #1 to Lleyton Hewitt status overnight no matter how badly you wished it to happen :snicker

No man can hold back the tide forever. And as mentioned before Roger has clearly declined and quite normally. It's a different sport but Michael Jordan was still by far the best player in the world at age 35 and still well above average at age 40. I think you're seriously underestimating what talent and determination can do.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

1. Fed played two more sets than the absolute minimum to get to SF. But, Milos played three more sets (two extra against Goffin and one extra against Sam).

2. Also, Fed has spent 9 hours 20 minutes on court compared to 11 hours and 38 minutes of Milos.

These disparities should help to compensate the age difference as well.

Finally, at the request of JMac, Milos will try to come in more and either get passed or botch volleys.
It is lot of fun to watch Milos botch volleys.

Overall time spent is relevant especially for Roger but the fact of the matter is what immediately preceded the semi (a fairly brutal 5 setter) is more relevant here. If he had dropped a set in his first two matches and then won the rest in straights he may have spent the same amount of time on court but he'd be a lot better off heading into the semis.

I agree that time spent in most recent matches have more importance. But, Milos's five set match was not in the early rounds either. It was in the 4th round against Goffin. Milos had to come back from 2 sets down in that, for the first time in his life.

If you are saying time spent by Roger is relevant and time spent by Milos is not relevant, I agree by and large.

But, JMac will induce enough confidence in Milos to come in and Milos will do so. Only after the match Milos will realize that his volleying skills are not comparable to that of JMac and so he should not have come in that often.

 

[Kieran]

Dream on, brother. :laydownlaughing

It's got nothing to do with talent. No man can hold back the tide! And at Federers age, well we're in "miracle" territory right now, straining credibility and probably touching it over the edge, depending what happens next...

It has everything to do with talent. Roger was never going to drop from extremely dominant #1 to Lleyton Hewitt status overnight no matter how badly you wished it to happen :snicker

No man can hold back the tide forever. And as mentioned before Roger has clearly declined and quite normally really. It's a different sport but Michael Jordan was still by far the best player in the world at age 35 and still well above average at age 40. I think you're seriously underestimating what talent and determination can do.

Johnny Mac still has great talent, maybe he should play tomorrow instead of Milos?

By the way, didn't Milos promise to get ANGRY after Federer beat him in 2014? Didn't he say he was going to get MAD? Is this why he hired McEnroe? :snicker

 

[DarthFed]

^ That is a good point. In the matches mentioned earlier (Murray twice and Cilic) Roger did not go up against a bang bang player like Raonic where the points figure to be very short on both men's serves. That should help if he is feeling the effects of the Cilic match.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Looks like Roger-Milos is the first semi.

 

[Frode789]

Looks like Roger-Milos is the first semi.

Indeed.

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule19.html

 

[AnonymousFan]

This matchup reminds me of when Federer played Isner last year at USO I think. Guess is 7-6 6-2 7-6, with Federer never getting broken even when down 0-40.

 

[El Dude]

I see the Fed-hate has resurged among some.

 

[the AntiPusher]

I would expect McEnroe would have a great plan to attack Roger otherwise it will be a glorified practice session for Roger

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Oddsmakers give about 64% chance for Fed and 36% chance for Milos.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Just listened to Paul Annacone's preview of this match. Does not provide any new insights though. He says this match depends on two things 1) Is Roger able to recover from the previous match and 2) Which one of these two are good at returning the second serve of the opponent.

 

[Kieran]

That's basically it. It's going to come down to who's service percentage dips in the clutch, and whether the other can capitalise.

And also, whether Milos is man enough for the occasion...

 

[nehmeth]

It's going to come down to whether Milos is man enough for the occasion...

Is she dating him for his looks, winsome personality or money?

 

[the AntiPusher]

I haven't paid attention to Milos play because I am not a fan but I have heard his has hands of stone at the net,Roger will exposed that part of his game.

 

[Obsi]

He already has seriously declined. He is ranked below Murray and hasn't won a slam in 4 years. I'd call that a large decline from where he was.

For me, "serious decline" would be droping out of the Top 10.

Everyone's definition is different. He will likely retire well before that happens. Dropping out of the top 10 means he is either injured for most of a year or 40 years old. Comparing someone who used to win 95% of their matches and get to every single GS semi and nearly every final to the Roger of today is serious decline. The guy is that talented that even as a fraction of himself he is still one of the best as he approaches 35. Respect the talent or let the hate consume you

You overestimate Federer. Saying he is in serious decline despite being No. 3 is just laughable...