2016 U.S. Open Final: A. Kerber vs K. Pliskova

Who wins their maiden U.S. Open title?


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tossip

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so Kerber won USA Open before Azarenka...
 

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So, Pliskova becomes the second woman to win against both willamses in the same tourney and then end up losing it.
 

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I am happy that Kerber won,she is one of my favorite players as for Pliskova better luck next time.
 

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I was tryin to attempt to watch a replay of the match on TC, I heard Carillo's voice and turn to the NFL network to watch the pre game show :laydownlaughing

Congrats to Kerber

Rena will be Back! :clap
 

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I wouldn't be too sure, buddy. Serena has gone downhill this year, but at the same time Kerber looks like the real deal. Two slams, that's not a bad haul. If Kerber gets going early next year and retains Oz, Serena is going to find it hard to win a slam anywhere. She's older, heavier and slower. I'm not so sure that she'll be back winning majors...
 

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Kieran said:
I wouldn't be too sure, buddy. Serena has gone downhill this year, but at the same time Kerber looks like the real deal. Two slams, that's not a bad haul. If Kerber gets going early next year and retains Oz, Serena is going to find it hard to win a slam anywhere. She's older, heavier and slower. I'm not so sure that she'll be back winning majors...

Oh yeah. She is going downhill..(grand slams appearances) Serena has made 3 of 4 finals in 2015 & 2016...her other two finishes were semi finals appearances.. oh Yeah. Kieran, Serena is really going downhill
 

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Front242 said:
You can't win a slam losing in the semis.

Kieran said Serena is going downhill.thats like saying Djoker is going downhill, very similar stats wouldn't you agree
 

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Kieran said:
I wouldn't be too sure, buddy. Serena has gone downhill this year, but at the same time Kerber looks like the real deal. Two slams, that's not a bad haul. If Kerber gets going early next year and retains Oz, Serena is going to find it hard to win a slam anywhere. She's older, heavier and slower. I'm not so sure that she'll be back winning majors...

Yeah because in the past two years Serena has made the semis or better at all of the slams with the right adjustment, Serena can counter some of the issues with movement. She doesn't have too much to adjust because for an old woman at 35, she is still making it to the stages that matter more than anyone else on tour. Not even Kerber is that consistent. Let's also be real with the absence of competitors like Maria and Vika a Kerber has come out of the wood work. While I'm not saying Kerber wouldn't have had the win here or there even if they were on tour, going through Vika, Maria and Serena to win a title well even Kerber isn't that good to do so consistently. Like I said earlier props to Kerber for recognizing an opening and seizing the opportunity too bad Kvitova and some others don't realize the golden opportunity and run with it. Also, like Kskate said, let's see what happens with that #1 against her name. It is easier to fly under the radar as #2 because nobody expects things of #2 ;). They expect you to be #2.
 

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the AntiPusher said:
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You can't win a slam losing in the semis.

Kieran said Serena is going downhill.thats like saying Djoker is going downhill, very similar stats wouldn't you agree


I personally think she is going downhill and don't see her winning any other slam besides possibly Wimbledon. She's a nervous wreck in big matches lately and plays crap and then blames some bs injury each and every time.
 

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Front242 said:
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You can't win a slam losing in the semis.

Kieran said Serena is going downhill.thats like saying Djoker is going downhill, very similar stats wouldn't you agree


I personally think she is going downhill and don't see her winning any other slam besides possibly Wimbledon. She's a nervous wreck in big matches lately and plays crap and then blames some bs injury each and every time.

6 of 8 finals. The other 2 were semifinals ..she may not be who she was previously but the term downhill is not accurate..there has got to be a better euphemism than downhill..maybe Serena is just getting older she isn't able to manages her nerves, emotions and body on the harder surfaces

However just because Serena is the GOAT doesn't mean that she has got to be admired by all tennis fans ..two years from now when she will probably be gone..good luck with watching women's tennis then.. IMO
 

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Women's tennis has been pure gunk for years imo. I don't think she's the GOAT either.
 

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Front242 said:
Women's tennis has been pure gunk for years imo. I don't think she's the GOAT either.

I would agree with the first 3 words of your last sentence. For this discussion, it may be your most brutally honest post you made in 5 years
 

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She's not the best I've seen.

The biggest, but not the best... :popcorn
 

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Kieran said:
She's not the best I've seen.

The biggest, but not the best... :popcorn

Not fair to say the biggest. She is a full figure woman, that's her genetics. To be as quick nimble and play with that much controlled power is astonishing. however if you Google her wearing bikini, it's really a work of art. I would think judging by today's standards espetcially since ladies are getting buttocks, lips, and breast enhancemens, Serena is a Goddess..IMO

As far as the best you seen, I think you are referring to Martina Navratilova. Martina was able to overpower most of the girls she played against. If not she could use her left spin to pull the ladies off the court. Martina would've not to be able to overpower Serena when they both at their best on any surface. Serena could hit thru Martina and absolutely destroyed Martina's bh. U may not like Serena current appearance but she is today every bit the GOAT she was in 2003-2004.
 

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Front242 said:
Kieran said:
She's not the best I've seen.

The biggest, but not the best... :popcorn


:lolz::laydownlaughing

I am not here to defend Serena all day but unlike your man crush Stepanek aka the Worm and myself, Front you may not be physically" gifted "to handle women like Charlene Theon, Serena or even Sharapova. Never seen a real stud make fun of a full figure gal. Front you are a different type of person. I guess that's called natural selection. God Bless
 

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What Serena has over Martina is all the athletic and technical advantages of the modern game, such as rackets, tennis balls, training, etc. But Martina was a revolutionary, physically, much more gifted technically, brilliant at facing actual greats and sorting them out, and also the greatest doubles player. To me, she's the best I've seen, and Serena is cumbersome and clumsy compared to her, but she has an equally fierce willpower, and a physical power like nobody, I'll give her that. Serena scraps like Ralph! But although I like her - sometimes - I don't think she's the best I've seen...
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Front242 said:
Kieran said:
She's not the best I've seen.

The biggest, but not the best... :popcorn


:lolz::laydownlaughing

I am not here to defend Serena all day but unlike your man crush Stepanek aka the Worm and myself, Front you may not be physically" gifted "to handle women like Charlene Theon, Serena or even Sharapova. Never seen a real stud make fun of a full figure gal. Front you are a different type of person. I guess that's called natural selection. God Bless

Sharapova is rotten ffs. I prefer women who aren't stick insects so big booties and boobage is cool with me. Sharapova has less curves than a 5 year old boy. Barf.