2014 Aussie Open Final: Nadal vs. Wawrinka

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

especially when aftr breaking he lost his serve to loove

 

[Haelfix]

I actually think that Rafa has a tell on Federers serve. no one in the game returns him anywhere near as well as he does

 

[Federberg]

to beat Rafa for the first time in a slam final... I still have to pinch myself

 

[Federberg]

first time getting even a set too..

 

[brokenshoelace]

A "tell" as in kinda like Agassi against Becker? You know, the whole tongue thing...

 

[Front242]

Rafs wasnt reading Stans seve at all in set 1 despite Stan serving v. low first serve %

 

[Front242]

he frequently went the wrong way

 

[calitennis127]

4 people voted stan in 4..

I was one of them, although I always bet against Nadal in big matches because I just can't stand the way he so often wins at the latter stages of the biggest events - and many times Nadal has won instead. But I will say that this is what SHOULD happen more often and SHOULD HAVE happened more often.

 

[Haelfix]

yes or something in the toss.. You never see him wrong footed, he almost always guesses the right way etc

 

[brokenshoelace]

The problem in that first set was the second serve. Stan served at 35% so Nadal got a crap ton of looks on 2nd serve.

 

[Federberg]

maybe Stan changed his patterns

 

[brokenshoelace]

Return was abysmal.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Could be. Nadal definitely neutralizes Feds serve better than some of the purer returners (ie Novak, Murray).

 

[Haelfix]

Stan hits harder down the T than Roger does.. Nadal historically doesnt like that shot

 

[calitennis127]

Return usually is abysma not very good.

 

[brokenshoelace]

But he struggles with inferior servers (Novak for instance). Pretty weird.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Yeah but missing 3 consecutive 2nd serve returns on 0-40 with Stan serving for the first set is juts unacceptable.

 

[DarthFed]

Roger doesnt go up the T as well as he used to so over the years Rafa has been able to cheat more and more to the backhand

 

[DarthFed]

on the Deuce side that is

 

[brokenshoelace]

I think one weakness nobodys picked up on is how much Rafa struggles to return the kicker out wide on the deuce court.