2013 Monte Carlo F: Nadal vs. Djokovic

Who wins?

  • Rafa in straights

    Votes: 3 16.7%
  • Rafa in 3 sets

    Votes: 5 27.8%
  • Nole in straights

    Votes: 4 22.2%
  • Nole in 3 sets

    Votes: 6 33.3%

  • Total voters
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Moxie

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nehmeth said:
Moxie629 said:
nehmeth said:
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Weather looks to be a neutral factor: not likely to rain, not cold or hot, and not much wind.

You sure Moxie?

http://www.accuweather.com/en/mc/monte-carlo-spelugues/1097282/hourly-weather-forecast/1097282?hour=9

How can I be sure? It's a weather forecast, in the Spring, in a coastal location. Other forecasts, (weather.com, or wunderground.com,) put the percentage forecast of rain at below 50%.

weather.com's hourly forecast is almost identical to accuweather.
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/Monaco+MNXX0002:1:MN?pagenum=2&nextbeginIndex=6

I posted because huntingyou asked. You posted a different outcome and I rechecked. Hehe... and I clicked on accuweather and they changed things to partly sunny - your coastal town call - excellent.

Location and the season mean that things are changeable. The rain seems to be moving out of the forecast, which means we'll almost certainly have a match. Otherwise, I do think the conditions are likely keep things at neutral, for the players.
 

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Moxie629 said:
nehmeth said:
Moxie629 said:
nehmeth said:
Moxie629 said:
Weather looks to be a neutral factor: not likely to rain, not cold or hot, and not much wind.

You sure Moxie?

http://www.accuweather.com/en/mc/monte-carlo-spelugues/1097282/hourly-weather-forecast/1097282?hour=9

How can I be sure? It's a weather forecast, in the Spring, in a coastal location. Other forecasts, (weather.com, or wunderground.com,) put the percentage forecast of rain at below 50%.

weather.com's hourly forecast is almost identical to accuweather.
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/Monaco+MNXX0002:1:MN?pagenum=2&nextbeginIndex=6

I posted because huntingyou asked. You posted a different outcome and I rechecked. Hehe... and I clicked on accuweather and they changed things to partly sunny - your coastal town call - excellent.

Location and the season mean that things are changeable. The rain seems to be moving out of the forecast, which means we'll almost certainly have a match. Otherwise, I do think the conditions are likely keep things at neutral, for the players.

I dont see why the weather conditions makes that big of difference,, these players have played in similar conditions numerous times over the years,, Its the prize that matters and they are not going to let their play be affected(they will have their rackets strings tention adjusted, dry fit clothing and etc). Just play,., there will not be a silly repeat of RG in the mud.. so stupid of the silly French
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Moxie629 said:
nehmeth said:
Moxie629 said:
nehmeth said:
You sure Moxie?

http://www.accuweather.com/en/mc/monte-carlo-spelugues/1097282/hourly-weather-forecast/1097282?hour=9

How can I be sure? It's a weather forecast, in the Spring, in a coastal location. Other forecasts, (weather.com, or wunderground.com,) put the percentage forecast of rain at below 50%.

weather.com's hourly forecast is almost identical to accuweather.
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/Monaco+MNXX0002:1:MN?pagenum=2&nextbeginIndex=6

I posted because huntingyou asked. You posted a different outcome and I rechecked. Hehe... and I clicked on accuweather and they changed things to partly sunny - your coastal town call - excellent.

Location and the season mean that things are changeable. The rain seems to be moving out of the forecast, which means we'll almost certainly have a match. Otherwise, I do think the conditions are likely keep things at neutral, for the players.

I dont see why the weather conditions makes that big of difference,, these players have played in similar conditions numerous times over the years,, Its the prize that matters and they are not going to let their play be affected(they will have their rackets strings tention adjusted, dry fit clothing and etc). Just play,., there will not be a silly repeat of RG in the mud.. so stupid of the silly French

Nadal's forehand is significantly more effective in hot conditions, and get even more work off the court. In that regard, the conditions make a difference. Not necessarily a huge one, but at this level, it doesn't have to be.
 

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huntingyou said:
what's the weather report? Very important factor to consider!

Monte Carlo will look like Gotham for the final
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
the AntiPusher said:
Moxie629 said:
nehmeth said:
Moxie629 said:
How can I be sure? It's a weather forecast, in the Spring, in a coastal location. Other forecasts, (weather.com, or wunderground.com,) put the percentage forecast of rain at below 50%.

weather.com's hourly forecast is almost identical to accuweather.
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/Monaco+MNXX0002:1:MN?pagenum=2&nextbeginIndex=6

I posted because huntingyou asked. You posted a different outcome and I rechecked. Hehe... and I clicked on accuweather and they changed things to partly sunny - your coastal town call - excellent.

Location and the season mean that things are changeable. The rain seems to be moving out of the forecast, which means we'll almost certainly have a match. Otherwise, I do think the conditions are likely keep things at neutral, for the players.

I dont see why the weather conditions makes that big of difference,, these players have played in similar conditions numerous times over the years,, Its the prize that matters and they are not going to let their play be affected(they will have their rackets strings tention adjusted, dry fit clothing and etc). Just play,., there will not be a silly repeat of RG in the mud.. so stupid of the silly French

Nadal's forehand is significantly more effective in hot conditions, and get even more work off the court. In that regard, the conditions make a difference. Not necessarily a huge one, but at this level, it doesn't have to be.
Every match Rafa plays is the depended on the weather conditions in relations how much his topspin is bouncing is what you are saying. I say nay, the players make the adjustments. I can understand high winds but high/low temps are a given playing outdoors.
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
the AntiPusher said:
Moxie629 said:
nehmeth said:
Moxie629 said:
How can I be sure? It's a weather forecast, in the Spring, in a coastal location. Other forecasts, (weather.com, or wunderground.com,) put the percentage forecast of rain at below 50%.

weather.com's hourly forecast is almost identical to accuweather.
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/Monaco+MNXX0002:1:MN?pagenum=2&nextbeginIndex=6

I posted because huntingyou asked. You posted a different outcome and I rechecked. Hehe... and I clicked on accuweather and they changed things to partly sunny - your coastal town call - excellent.

Location and the season mean that things are changeable. The rain seems to be moving out of the forecast, which means we'll almost certainly have a match. Otherwise, I do think the conditions are likely keep things at neutral, for the players.

I dont see why the weather conditions makes that big of difference,, these players have played in similar conditions numerous times over the years,, Its the prize that matters and they are not going to let their play be affected(they will have their rackets strings tention adjusted, dry fit clothing and etc). Just play,., there will not be a silly repeat of RG in the mud.. so stupid of the silly French

Nadal's forehand is significantly more effective in hot conditions, and get even more work off the court. In that regard, the conditions make a difference. Not necessarily a huge one, but at this level, it doesn't have to be.

Agreed, Broken. Hot and dry conditions, and Nadal is a lock. Heavy and sloppy, like the 3rd set of RG last year, and Djokovic could get in. As you say, at their level, even conditions play into it. Hopefully tomorrow, neither weather, nor injury, in terms of Djokovic's ankle, are a factor.
 

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Djoker in straight sets, possibly 2 easy sets.
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
the AntiPusher said:
Moxie629 said:
nehmeth said:
weather.com's hourly forecast is almost identical to accuweather.
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/Monaco+MNXX0002:1:MN?pagenum=2&nextbeginIndex=6

I posted because huntingyou asked. You posted a different outcome and I rechecked. Hehe... and I clicked on accuweather and they changed things to partly sunny - your coastal town call - excellent.

Location and the season mean that things are changeable. The rain seems to be moving out of the forecast, which means we'll almost certainly have a match. Otherwise, I do think the conditions are likely keep things at neutral, for the players.

I dont see why the weather conditions makes that big of difference,, these players have played in similar conditions numerous times over the years,, Its the prize that matters and they are not going to let their play be affected(they will have their rackets strings tention adjusted, dry fit clothing and etc). Just play,., there will not be a silly repeat of RG in the mud.. so stupid of the silly French

Nadal's forehand is significantly more effective in hot conditions, and get even more work off the court. In that regard, the conditions make a difference. Not necessarily a huge one, but at this level, it doesn't have to be.
Every match Rafa plays is the depended on the weather conditions in relations how much his topspin is bouncing is what you are saying. I say nay, the players make the adjustments. I can understand high winds but high/low temps are a given playing outdoors.

I really don't mean to sound like an asshole but this isn't opinion, it's near scientific fact. Yes, players make adjustments. Rafa will make adjustments if the conditions aren't optimal. That however, doesn't mean that his forehand would not work better if the conditions are hot. Hell, Nadal himself always says he prefers hot conditions. Why do you think that is?

I didn't say Nadal is screwed if the conditions are cool. I said the hot conditions suit his game perfectly.
 

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.. because when the air is dry the ball bounces higher so he can brush his top spins over the ball any way he likes.
 

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Mastoor said:
.. because when the air is dry the ball bounces higher so he can brush his top spins over the ball any way he likes.

Exacty, Mastoor. If conditions are less than ideal, it doesn't mean that Rafa can't trounce the competition, it just means that it will be more difficult. And if the competition is Djokovic...that much more difficult. ;)
 

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rafa wins this one. i just don't see rafa losing on clay in this form (considering djoker is not at his absolute monstrous self) bar madrid.

rafa 6-4, 7-6.
 

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Moxie629 said:
Mastoor said:
.. because when the air is dry the ball bounces higher so he can brush his top spins over the ball any way he likes.

Exacty, Mastoor. If conditions are less than ideal, it doesn't mean that Rafa can't trounce the competition, it just means that it will be more difficult. And if the competition is Djokovic...that much more difficult. ;)

Of course, if his game depended that much on the weather he wouldn't be King of Clay.


So rain it is. I said it will look like Gotham city

http://www.accuweather.com/en/mc/monte-carlo-spelugues/1097282/hourly-weather-forecast/1097282?hour=9
 

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at the moment its part cloudy with some sun, increasing cloud, maybe showers.

max tempreture 15c 59f, :s
light breeze, 50-55% humidity,

djokovics ideal chance to waste nadal and clean his freaking clock..unless nadals wobbly form and dodgy back improves..so he can serve above 4mph and also not slap his forehand the Sabatini side of the T..

kneedal v ankleovic the battle of the zimmers..just who will be the ultimate destructor.
 

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Mastoor said:
So rain it is. I said it will look like Gotham city

http://www.accuweather.com/en/mc/monte-carlo-spelugues/1097282/hourly-weather-forecast/1097282?hour=9

That's not good. They may have to delay the match until tomorrow.
 

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Mastoor said:
Are they starting in 10 minutes?

They're supposed to, if that's what you mean, but I'm not sure yet if they actually will be.

Based on the weather forecast link you provided, it looks like even if they do start in 10 minutes, it will rain within an hour.
 

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nonsense..I saw a recent weather cam from Monaco and it was cloud/sun..within the last 2hrs it was..

showers possible it said...everyone stop wetting their panties for chrissakes.
 

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tented said:
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So rain it is. I said it will look like Gotham city

http://www.accuweather.com/en/mc/monte-carlo-spelugues/1097282/hourly-weather-forecast/1097282?hour=9

That's not good. They may have to delay the match until tomorrow.
Well, that sure helps Rafa doesnt it:).. Dry court,, High looping tospin to Rafa's allure,, There is no need to see another 3rd set of last year RG final in mud.. that was asinine