WTA Rome 2014: Internazionali BNL d'Italia

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Kiu said:
I suggest looking at this match:
[video=youtube]http://youtu.be/pF-FrxuV1MA[/video]

Sometimes the opponent plays better and that's why you lose, which was the case in AO earlier this year, Ana was just better that day although Serena rained 13 Aces on her. I didn't see Serena being "OFF" that day in January. Neither was she "OFF" that other day against Sabine in Wimby last year. Those days, the opponents were better... It is true that Serena has more good days than bad days, but then that's why she is #1

Obviously, if she has more bad days than good days, she won't be #1 for long.

I like to see every lady "ON" for every match, but then, we are all humans.

Lets see who is "ON' Tomorrow?

Maybe you should actually WATCH the match and not just posting it.

There is a reason she didn't until Dubai after this match, and I stated in my original comment, "Li and Ana can't beat her when she's ON."

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Kiu said:
I suggest looking at this match:
[video=youtube]http://youtu.be/pF-FrxuV1MA[/video]

Sometimes the opponent plays better and that's why you lose, which was the case in AO earlier this year, Ana was just better that day although Serena rained 13 Aces on her. I didn't see Serena being "OFF" that day in January. Neither was she "OFF" that other day against Sabine in Wimby last year. Those days, the opponents were better... It is true that Serena has more good days than bad days, but then that's why she is #1

Obviously, if she has more bad days than good days, she won't be #1 for long.

I like to see every lady "ON" for every match, but then, we are all humans.

Lets see who is "ON' Tomorrow?

I've seen both matches , you reference and she definitely wasn't "ON". Firing aces is one thing, but when someone is "ON" they fire from all cylinders (serve, return, ground game, movement, shot selection). In that regard I would say Serena wasn't "ON" at Wimby. She had a break lead twice in the final set and didn't close out the match. Against Ana, the serve was the only thing that really kept her in it. Against Ana, her ground game was severely erratic and I didn't think she moved that well.

My point is not to take anything away from Ana or Sabine, because we've seen Serena be far less than her best and win matches anyway. So an opponent has to raise their game and believe in it long enough to get across the finish line.
 

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Well we don't have to worry about Li crashing the clay party, she goes out to Errani in 3 sets
 

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^ just woke up and saw this and had to blink a couple times to make sure I wasn't still sleeping.

Ya know, I feel a little ashamed that I haven't taken Suarez-Navarro seriously. I know her name has been lurking recently in many a tournament but I just thought she was doing well because of the customary high seed WTA chokes that one sees. She actually has one of the better OHBH that I've seen on the WTA ( maybe better than Vinci) and great movement. She's currently giving Ana some problems with it...:blush:
 

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Kiu said:
I believe only 2 are left that can beat Serena, that would be Ana and Na.
She will face one in Semis and the other in the Final if things hold up.

But here is the trick question, although Li Na leads Sara 6-0 H2H, that was the exact deficit Na had against Sam Stosur yesterday when she finally beat her today. Can Sara turn the tables like Ana and Na did today?

Great and timely question Kiu ;)
 

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golds girl said:
^ just woke up and saw this and had to blink a couple times to make sure I wasn't still sleeping.

Ya know, I feel a little ashamed that I haven't taken Suarez-Navarro seriously. I know her name has been lurking recently in many a tournament but I just thought she was doing well because of the customary high seed WTA chokes that one sees. She actually has one of the better OHBH that I've seen on the WTA ( maybe better than Vinci) and great movement. She's currently giving Ana some problems with it...:blush:

I think I've stated this before, but CSN can be very tough to crack. She's dangerous because if you let her hang around long enough, she starts to find her timing and it grows her confidence and she gets the BH going and then you're in trouble. Just ask Kerber, Petra and Sveta and they'll tell you the same thing.
 

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kskate2 said:
Kiu said:
I suggest looking at this match:
[video=youtube]http://youtu.be/pF-FrxuV1MA[/video]

Sometimes the opponent plays better and that's why you lose, which was the case in AO earlier this year, Ana was just better that day although Serena rained 13 Aces on her. I didn't see Serena being "OFF" that day in January. Neither was she "OFF" that other day against Sabine in Wimby last year. Those days, the opponents were better... It is true that Serena has more good days than bad days, but then that's why she is #1

Obviously, if she has more bad days than good days, she won't be #1 for long.

I like to see every lady "ON" for every match, but then, we are all humans.

Lets see who is "ON' Tomorrow?

I've seen both matches , you reference and she definitely wasn't "ON". Firing aces is one thing, but when someone is "ON" they fire from all cylinders (serve, return, ground game, movement, shot selection). In that regard I would say Serena wasn't "ON" at Wimby. She had a break lead twice in the final set and didn't close out the match. Against Ana, the serve was the only thing that really kept her in it. Against Ana, her ground game was severely erratic and I didn't think she moved that well.

My point is not to take anything away from Ana or Sabine, because we've seen Serena be far less than her best and win matches anyway. So an opponent has to raise their game and believe in it long enough to get across the finish line.


Nicely put!!
 

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^You mean where she forgets she's a top ranked tennis player and turns into an UE machine instead? yep
 

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^ I cant believe it....Li was in great form when she blew Stosur off the court yesterday.I was so certain she could handle Errani with ease.How wrong was I.
 

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What a brilliant match Ivanoivic vs Navarro almost entirely backhand play and using some angles you seldom see. Not very varied play but a big grinder - welcome back on top Ana you survived the test. Are you up for a repeat in FO?:clap Also a congrats to Navaroo she really fought her chance and has had a great year so far - but still a little behind Caroline ;)
 

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Calvy said:
kskate2 said:
Kiu said:
I suggest looking at this match:
[video=youtube]http://youtu.be/pF-FrxuV1MA[/video]

Sometimes the opponent plays better and that's why you lose, which was the case in AO earlier this year, Ana was just better that day although Serena rained 13 Aces on her. I didn't see Serena being "OFF" that day in January. Neither was she "OFF" that other day against Sabine in Wimby last year. Those days, the opponents were better... It is true that Serena has more good days than bad days, but then that's why she is #1

Obviously, if she has more bad days than good days, she won't be #1 for long.

I like to see every lady "ON" for every match, but then, we are all humans.

Lets see who is "ON' Tomorrow?

I've seen both matches , you reference and she definitely wasn't "ON". Firing aces is one thing, but when someone is "ON" they fire from all cylinders (serve, return, ground game, movement, shot selection). In that regard I would say Serena wasn't "ON" at Wimby. She had a break lead twice in the final set and didn't close out the match. Against Ana, the serve was the only thing that really kept her in it. Against Ana, her ground game was severely erratic and I didn't think she moved that well.

My point is not to take anything away from Ana or Sabine, because we've seen Serena be far less than her best and win matches anyway. So an opponent has to raise their game and believe in it long enough to get across the finish line.


Nicely put!!

Not to mention Serena very poorly chose to serve to that forehand which is not what you want to do against Ana when that forehand is firing right. Actually, she directed quite a few shots to that forehand. Ana played well to win, but Serena was not on all cylinders that day. The return was off for sure. Serena kept it interesting as she always does. Ana played spectacular and deserved the win.
 

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Ana held serve to win again. Her toss goes off when near the finish line, but she managed to control her nerves well enough to advance to the semi. She has such a beautiful game. I am hoping she goes far at FO

Really disappointed with Li. I thought when she best Stosur, she had a clear path to the semi. She needs a sports psychologist to help her through these erratic patches.
 

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golds girl said:
Kiu said:
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But here is the trick question, although Li Na leads Sara 6-0 H2H, that was the exact deficit Na had against Sam Stosur yesterday when she finally beat her today. Can Sara turn the tables like Ana and Na did today?

Great and timely question Kiu ;)

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Sara was energized by the home crowd, did to Li what Li did to Sam.

CSN was playing awesome today, Ana was just a tad better, did her in with those drop shots.
 

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Li Na hit 52 errors in her match today.

Five. Two.

That's equivalent of thirteen games.

52.

:nono
 

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Kieran said:
Li Na hit 52 errors in her match today.

Five. Two.

That's equivalent of thirteen games.

52.

:nono

Talk about a Error Fest....I am glad I missed that match.:mad:
 

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JJ takes the opening set 6-4. Aga's on serve in the 2nd 4-3. Looks like we could be heading for a decider.

By the way, not liking Aga's outfit. :nono Stay out of granny's closet will ya? The flower patch look is for old ladies.