Why is Rafa only threatening to sue over doping accusations now?

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How was Nadal damaged by the politician's comments?
Has he actually lost any sponsors or his reputation since the comments came up ?
What damages is he (or management) is claiming ?
 

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How was Nadal damaged by the politician's comments?
Has he actually lost any sponsors or his reputation since the comments came up ?
What damages is he (or management) is claiming ?
It's a basic slander case. No, he hasn't lost sponsors, but, yes, it's his reputation that he is claiming is damaged. He's been the subject of innuendo for years, and he's sick of it, apparently. That woman named him directly, and claimed he'd been serving a silent ban. It impugns his reputation, and a reputation is still a thing, no matter how much you have sponsors and titles.
 

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Hmmmmmm. Nadal never made any issue of this 4 years ago when he was dominating the tour so why now ?
Let the french airhead say what she likes.
 

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Hmmmmmm. Nadal never made any issue of this 4 years ago when he was dominating the tour so why now ?
Let the french airhead say what she likes.
Respectfully, that's not a fair understanding of what Nadal has been up against, with regards to doping accusations. We've been over it on other threads, but, directly to your point, no one accused him specifically, before Bachelot (or since my mention below.) You can't sue the internet; or Yannick Noah, who just made generally rude and unfounded accusations against Spanish players; or a French satirical program that seems to imply Nadal, but it's not specific, and it was satire. There was one French publication back when Operación Puerto came out that put Nadal and Barcelona in it's headline, completely spuriously and sensationally, 10 years ago. As I have said before, Nadal, in retrospect, probably wishes he'd sued then. Everything in the interim was too vague to take on. This one called Nadal out, and he has grounds for his suit.
 

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Unless she has some "inside info" that we don't know about or any tangible proof that Rafa got a silent ban, then she's been very reckless and I can see it being settled out of court with a public apology and a sizeable donation to some charity of Nadal's choice. I can't see it going to court.
 
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Unless she has some "inside info" that we don't know about or any tangible proof that Rafa got a silent ban, then she's been very reckless and I can see it being settled out of court with a public apology and a sizeable donation to some charity of Nadal's choice. I can't see it going to court.
Given that the ITF has actually said there was no silent ban, she hasn't got a leg to stand on. I actually would like to see the Nadal camp push it...not to punish her, but to let as much light in as possible. If Nadal is clean and believes he has a case, he should pursue it in court.
 

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it's abvious that this foolish Mrs Bachelot should have shut up if she's got no proof, now Nadal'll pursue it in court and it's only logical, he must be fed up of all those rumours
 

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Let me play the devil´s advocate (one of my favourite sports):

So in a nutshell this woman is just an stupid b!tch, who by chance was a state minister and talks his mouth out of her @ss, with no one close to her smart enough to warn her she could be sued for what she says?
 

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Let me play the devil´s advocate (one of my favourite sports):

So in a nutshell this woman is just an stupid b!tch, who by chance was a state minister and talks his mouth out of her @ss, with no one close to her smart enough to warn her she could be sued for what she says?
Why not? Isabelle lives in France and says Bachelot's considered to be kind of an idiot and a self-aggransizer. I'm not sure about in Brazil, but here in the US just because someone has been in government doesn't prove they're not a fool, or don't perhaps think they're impervious to consequences. Here is exactly what she said: “On sait que sa fameuse blessure où il avait été arrêté sept mois est certainement due à un contrôle positif. Quand tu vois un joueur de tennis qui s’arrête pendant des mois, c’est qu’il a été contrôlé positif.” I think everyone can read that. She's merely speculating. Drawing a conclusion based on his injury lay-off. She neither says nor implies that she has proof or has seen any.

It's possible that she thought slandering Nadal re: doping was a minor tennis-related sport and she was just joining in the "fun." She did fail to notice, however, that people don't normally do it publicly, or if they do, they don't accuse him, or anyone else, directly. It does make you question her judgement.
 

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Let me play the devil´s advocate (one of my favourite sports):

So in a nutshell this woman is just an stupid b!tch, who by chance was a state minister and talks his mouth out of her @ss, with no one close to her smart enough to warn her she could be sued for what she says?

To be honest, the sports minister, to me, sounds like a total airhead.

Anyways this stuff should be the least of Nadal's worries. He should be focusing more on his game and adding more of a flat big serve than this off court rubbish. Whilst am not a fan but I'd rather have him back at number 1 winning the Slams than the talentless grinding mug from serbia.
 

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Why not? Isabelle lives in France and says Bachelot's considered to be kind of an idiot and a self-aggransizer. I'm not sure about in Brazil, but here in the US just because someone has been in government doesn't prove they're not a fool, or don't perhaps think they're impervious to consequences. Here is exactly what she said: “On sait que sa fameuse blessure où il avait été arrêté sept mois est certainement due à un contrôle positif. Quand tu vois un joueur de tennis qui s’arrête pendant des mois, c’est qu’il a été contrôlé positif.” I think everyone can read that. She's merely speculating. Drawing a conclusion based on his injury lay-off. She neither says nor implies that she has proof or has seen any.

It's possible that she thought slandering Nadal re: doping was a minor tennis-related sport and she was just joining in the "fun." She did fail to notice, however, that people don't normally do it publicly, or if they do, they don't accuse him, or anyone else, directly. It does make you question her judgement.

We have our fair share of fools and retards on the government, Moxie, don´t worry about that.

But politicians are usually good at one thing: knowing what and when say stuff (not necessarily true). That´s the part that got me a bit.

And, also, I do not like oversimplistic explanations (even if sometimes they are true). I have summed your thoughts like that to expose exactly this aspect.
 

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We have our fair share of fools and retards on the government, Moxie, don´t worry about that.

But politicians are usually good at one thing: knowing what and when say stuff (not necessarily true). That´s the part that got me a bit.

And, also, I do not like oversimplistic explanations (even if sometimes they are true). I have summed your thoughts like that to expose exactly this aspect.

She said that when the players are out of the court for a while it's because they are banned and then its when he named Nadal. Then it means that very single player that is out of the court more than three months the reason is because they are banned?....well, then many players come to my mind
 

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We have our fair share of fools and retards on the government, Moxie, don´t worry about that.

But politicians are usually good at one thing: knowing what and when say stuff (not necessarily true). That´s the part that got me a bit.

And, also, I do not like oversimplistic explanations (even if sometimes they are true). I have summed your thoughts like that to expose exactly this aspect.
If you were summing up my "over-simplification," then I missed it. You understand that now she's a talk show host or something, right? So she talks and offers her opinions. She said what she said. I'm not sure what you would think is the less over-simplified version.
 

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Rafa says; "I don't need the money but t's all about my image. The people can't say stupid things without any knowledge . If I get some money of this it will go to a charitable cause. My philosophy is easy to understand, I believe in the clean sport but it has to look like that. It would be better for the transparency of the sport to make public all the test results of everyone, it would be much easier'
 
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If you were summing up my "over-simplification," then I missed it. You understand that now she's a talk show host or something, right? So she talks and offers her opinions. She said what she said. I'm not sure what you would think is the less over-simplified version.

Sorry, my bad. By "yours" I meant "the above posts", that is, that seemed to be the collective conclusion.

Yes, I know (from other posters here) that she's the host of a talk-show, and okay, that could explain it (she's paid to talk out of her a...).
 

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Sorry, my bad. By "yours" I meant "the above posts", that is, that seemed to be the collective conclusion.

Yes, I know (from other posters here) that she's the host of a talk-show, and okay, that could explain it (she's paid to talk out of her a...).
No worries. I'd be interested in the context in which she decided to make the comment, which I haven't found. But still, I'm interested to hear what you think is overly-simplistic. Or do you no longer think that?