Why Federer won't win the US Open

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Well written and I can't really disagree. I'm not sure Cilic makes the semis but if he does it would be a brutal path of Djoker, Cilic and then Nadal. That said I really think it comes down to Djoker and I don't give Fed much of a chance in that one, but if he somehow pulls that off in 4 or less I think he wins the tournament. The semi is either during the day or at night depending on the schedule and the final is during the day on Sunday so it'd be a little faster the last two rounds.

But the Djoker I saw in Cincy and last night...no chance for Roger or anyone on a slow/medium hard. He looks more and more like himself. I saw bits of it live in Cincy in the matches i saw of him, sustained periods where he was playing beastly which is something we really didn't even see at Wimbledon.
 
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Well written and I can't really disagree. I'm not sure Cilic makes the semis but if he does it would be a brutal path of Djoker, Cilic and then Nadal. That said I really think it comes down to Djoker and I don't give Fed much of a chance in that one, but if he somehow pulls that off in 4 or less I think he wins the tournament. The semi is either during the day or at night depending on the schedule and the final is during the day on Sunday so it'd be a little faster the last two rounds.

But the Djoker I saw in Cincy and last night...no chance for Roger or anyone on a slow/medium hard. He looks more and more like himself. I saw bits of it live in Cincy in the matches i saw of him, sustained periods where he was playing beastly which is something we really didn't even see at Wimbledon.

I agree. No chance for Federer. Finally a good post from you. :good:
 

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Well written and I can't really disagree. I'm not sure Cilic makes the semis but if he does it would be a brutal path of Djoker, Cilic and then Nadal. That said I really think it comes down to Djoker and I don't give Fed much of a chance in that one, but if he somehow pulls that off in 4 or less I think he wins the tournament. The semi is either during the day or at night depending on the schedule and the final is during the day on Sunday so it'd be a little faster the last two rounds.

The two men's semifinals will be one after the other starting at 4 p.m. Both women's and men's final will also start at 4 pm.
 

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I too think if Fed somehow wins Novak (without getting into a long five setter), he has decent chances of lifting the trophy.
 
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The two men's semifinals will be one after the other starting at 4 p.m. Both women's and men's final will also start at 4 pm.

Women's is Saturday though right? So final is late afternoon as expected and semi might be as well depending on which they send out first.
 

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I have yet to see your first good one. And I didn't say he has no chance. He has a better chance against a strong version of Djokovic than your boy has.

Federer has not won the USO in 10 year losing many times to Novak. Meanwhile Rafa has won the USO 3 times since then beating Novak 2 times in the final... So your post has no logic.
 

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Another Rafa fan girl bringing up 2010 when Novak wasn't great at all as if it has relevance. I will give you 2013, but overall Federer has beaten Novak 6 times on hard courts since the start of 2011 to Nadal's 2 in a 4 week span when he was playing by far his best hard court tennis ever.
 
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Anyways please let's stick to the topic which is about how Federer has no chance in winning the USO. Thanks. B-)
 

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Women's is Saturday though right? So final is late afternoon as expected and semi might be as well depending on which they send out first.

Yes, the women's final is on sat and men's final on sunday, both starting at 4 p.m.

Women's semifnals, one after another, starting at 7 p.m. on Thursday.

Men's semifinals, one after another, starting at 4 p.m. on Friday.

I don't see much difference between going first and next. Negligible, if any.
 

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Anyways please let's stick to the topic which is about how Federer has no chance in winning the USO. Thanks. B-)

And here is little miss innocent complaining about all our little jabs at your pinup doll. Drop the act, you probably know nothing about tennis and root for the grunting Neanderthal because you want to have his babies.
 
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And here is little miss innocent complaining about all our little jabs at your pinup doll. Drop the act, you probably know nothing about tennis and root for the grunting Neanderthal because you want to have his babies.

Oh please. When I came here all I wanted to do was discuss Nadal and created a thread about him. But then you and a few other Fed fans were bashing and attacking him in every post and every minute so now I will defend him and also annoy you too. I was innocent but when faced with bullies like you I will fight back. Have a nice day.
 

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Well written and I can't really disagree. I'm not sure Cilic makes the semis but if he does it would be a brutal path of Djoker, Cilic and then Nadal. That said I really think it comes down to Djoker and I don't give Fed much of a chance in that one, but if he somehow pulls that off in 4 or less I think he wins the tournament. The semi is either during the day or at night depending on the schedule and the final is during the day on Sunday so it'd be a little faster the last two rounds.

But the Djoker I saw in Cincy and last night...no chance for Roger or anyone on a slow/medium hard. He looks more and more like himself. I saw bits of it live in Cincy in the matches i saw of him, sustained periods where he was playing beastly which is something we really didn't even see at Wimbledon.
I'm not sure the Djoker in Cincy was all that. That was more about Roger being shite, than Novak being great. But for sure it's a tough path for the old man. But I'm not fussed, he would have to face him sooner or later, so might as well get it done
 
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he hasn't won it for ages so...I guess it's much too late now
 

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I'm not sure the Djoker in Cincy was all that. That was more about Roger being shite, than Novak being great. But for sure it's a tough path for the old man. But I'm not fussed, he would have to face him sooner or later, so might as well get it done

I think it was both in the final man. Djokovic was tremendous and Roger was just poor all week. The problem here is that it is much slower than Cincy, even if Roger plays a lot better it is a tougher ask. But I agree with you, it might be better to face him earlier than later, though he obviously would've rather had Djoker on Nadal's side.
 

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he hasn't won it for ages so...I guess it's much too late now

While I doubt he'll win it and doubt he even gets past Djokovic, the fact he hasn't won it in ages isn't the issue if you recall the length of time between his last AO win before 2017. With a good draw anything is possible in sport but Federer has a nightmare draw.
 

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Wrote this on the fly this eve...
Please read and give me your thoughts!
https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/09/03/roger-federer-will-not-win-the-us-open-heres-why/

Succinct and discusses all angles in a short space.

What happened to that 'born again' backhand and improved return this year? On this court, Federer's only option to seems to be an out and out attacking strategy. If he's going down, why not go down all guns blazing? On second thoughts, he might choke if he did that.

Only Nadal can keep up with Djoker in the rallies with these balls on this court. It's Djokovic's USO to lose.
 

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Don't forget that Roger had a very tough route in 2017 AO: He had to beat Berdych, Nishikori and Wawrinka (among others) before facing Rafa.

My point being, if a truly great player is on his game, the draw doesn't matter so much. Given that Roger hasn't been on his game since at least February, we were all hoping for the "luck of the draw" and it didn't come through because Novak's in his quarter. But the Roger of last year's AO/Wimbledon would have beaten all but the very best Novak, and maybe even beaten him.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is that if we're hoping for an easy draw for Roger to get #21, we probably will be disappointed. For him to win that 21st Slam he needs to find the form that brought him #s 18-20. And it is possible, I think, at least within the span of a Slam.

That said, I think he's got maybe 4 more chances: this USO and three Slams next year.