What to expect from rest of 2016 ?

[Kieran]

I'm quite aware he has tons of points to defend while Andy doesn't have as many, but I just can't imagine Nole collapsing; still remember Fed was ahead a couple years ago, took the #1 seed at O2, but it all got sorted out by the end of the tourney and the season! :angel: :dodgy:

You're just hoping that, though, because you switched from one successful horse (Federer) to another (Djokovic), but it doesn't matter what you hope for. By the end of the year you might be disappointed to have to mount yet another horse (Murray)...

 

[Fiero425]

I'm quite aware he has tons of points to defend while Andy doesn't have as many, but I just can't imagine Nole collapsing; still remember Fed was ahead a couple years ago, took the #1 seed at O2, but it all got sorted out by the end of the tourney and the season! :angel: :dodgy:

You're just hoping that, though, because you switched from one successful horse (Federer) to another (Djokovic), but it doesn't matter what you hope for. By the end of the year you might be disappointed to have to mount yet another horse (Murray)...

I've never understood why noses get out of joint because "I move on" when it comes to fandom! Roger's still the GOAT; what else would you like me to say? I'm always for the underdog going back to Lendl 30+ years ago when he was picking up the crumbs of Borg, McEnroe, & Connors! Fedal gets all the press now, the hype, adulation, and even made into a faux rivalry while Nole has quietly gone about his business pounding the typewriter making his own history in the record books! I appreciate that of players who can't seem to catch a break, no matter what they do! I get more critics about him playing in a weak era or Fedal being on their last legs! It doesn't matter that 2011 was smack dab in the middle of their run for immortality and he stopped it! Nadal very well could have run the tour for years but for Nole coming into his own! Rafa had his last gasp in 2013 with a good-bye gift of 2014 FO and Roger tagging one more Wimbledon in 2012! It's been all about Nole, his being #1, and the records he's setting by going out on the court every day! What am I to do, jump in the grave with my original fave Bjorn? I gotta watch someone; might as well be DJOKOVIC! He's a class act! - BTW, you'll be waiting a long time for me to come around with that hideous game of Murray's! :angel: :dodgy: :clap :ras:

 

[Kieran]

Oh nobody disputes Djoker is something of a class act. I suppose what's remarkable about you, my friend, and in this you're unique, is that you jumped ship from a current player to another, based soley on the latters results. In other words, you didn't think Federer suddenly became an aestehtically less attractive player, and Djokovic got better in that regard. No. The results changed, and you followed the money. That's your prerogative, but can you imagine jumping ship from Borg to McEnroe, or Sampras to Agassi? :nono

But it's not an issue, it's an interesting anomaly...

 

[Fiero425]

Oh nobody disputes Djoker is something of a class act. I suppose what's remarkable about you, my friend, and in this you're unique, is that you jumped ship from a current player to another, based soley on the latters results. In other words, you didn't think Federer suddenly became an aestehtically less attractive player, and Djokovic got better in that regard. No. The results changed, and you followed the money. That's your prerogative, but can you imagine jumping ship from Borg to McEnroe, or Sampras to Agassi? :nono

But it's not an issue, it's an interesting anomaly...

Borg and Sampras were about the same in that respect; the best of their eras and at the same time were unassuming and humble! That was why the press was pushing McEnroe, Connors, and Nastase; made good COPY! Never a chance I'd jump on bandwagons of "bad guys" like John, Jimmy, Andre, or Boris! The greatest at the time just happen to be current faves; Pete, Bjorn, Ivan, and now Nole! :angel: :dodgy: :ras:

 

[Kieran]

Oh nobody disputes Djoker is something of a class act. I suppose what's remarkable about you, my friend, and in this you're unique, is that you jumped ship from a current player to another, based soley on the latters results. In other words, you didn't think Federer suddenly became an aestehtically less attractive player, and Djokovic got better in that regard. No. The results changed, and you followed the money. That's your prerogative, but can you imagine jumping ship from Borg to McEnroe, or Sampras to Agassi? :nono

But it's not an issue, it's an interesting anomaly...

Borg and Sampras were about the same in that respect; the best of their eras and at the same time were unassuming and humble! That was why the press was pushing McEnroe, Connors, and Nastase; made good COPY! Never a chance I'd jump on bandwagons of "bad guys" like John, Jimmy, Andre, or Boris! The greatest at the time just happen to be current faves; Pete, Bjorn, Ivan, and now Nole! :angel: :dodgy: :ras:

(Cough) You forgot Federer... :angel: :dodgy: :ras:

 

[Fiero425]

Oh nobody disputes Djoker is something of a class act. I suppose what's remarkable about you, my friend, and in this you're unique, is that you jumped ship from a current player to another, based soley on the latters results. In other words, you didn't think Federer suddenly became an aestehtically less attractive player, and Djokovic got better in that regard. No. The results changed, and you followed the money. That's your prerogative, but can you imagine jumping ship from Borg to McEnroe, or Sampras to Agassi? :nono

But it's not an issue, it's an interesting anomaly...

Borg and Sampras were about the same in that respect; the best of their eras and at the same time were unassuming and humble! That was why the press was pushing McEnroe, Connors, and Nastase; made good COPY! Never a chance I'd jump on bandwagons of "bad guys" like John, Jimmy, Andre, or Boris! The greatest at the time just happen to be current faves; Pete, Bjorn, Ivan, and now Nole! :angel: :dodgy: :ras:

(Cough) You forgot Federer... :angel: :dodgy: :ras:

Nyah, the longer he hangs on the worse he's beginning to look! Roger's had his moments! That YEC semi a couple years ago with Stan comes to mind! Fed killed himself to win the match while Mirka offering rude commentary in the stands, and Roger's so injured there was no final against Nole the next day! All this occurring on the cusp of the 2 going for a DC title! :cover :nono

 

[Front242]

I agree, it's making Novak look bad that he can often barely beat a 35 year old. Other than that though it's not embarrassing anyone. Djokovic lost 3 times to old man Federer last year so I guess Djokovic isn't really all that great. Put them both against each other in their primes and that'd be fugly for poor Novak most of the time.

 

[Fiero425]

I agree, it's making Novak look bad that he can often barely beat a 35 year old. Other than that though it's not embarrassing anyone. Djokovic lost 3 times to old man Federer last year so I guess Djokovic isn't really all that great. Put them both against each other in their primes and that'd be fugly for poor Novak most of the time.

Unfortunately for you and Fed fans that's just pie in the sky and "we'll never really know!" :angel: :dodgy: :ras:

 

[Front242]

I agree, it's making Novak look bad that he can often barely beat a 35 year old. Other than that though it's not embarrassing anyone. Djokovic lost 3 times to old man Federer last year so I guess Djokovic isn't really all that great. Put them both against each other in their primes and that'd be fugly for poor Novak most of the time.

Unfortunately for you and Fed fans that's just pie in the sky and "we'll never really know!" :angel: :dodgy: :ras:

We pretty much do know 'cos it took Novak 5 sets and 6-4 in the 5th to beat a 33 year old Federer at Wimbledon in 2014 and given until he got injured, Federer was the only guy challenging Novak on tour and had the most wins against him the last few years. Now I think we both agree that a younger prime Federer would be playing a lot better than a 35 year old greatly declined version of himself so have a wild guess who'd win most of the time. And this greatly diminished Federer is playing Djokovic in his absolute prime years and Novak is still having a very tough time against him much of the time.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Borg and Sampras were about the same in that respect; the best of their eras and at the same time were unassuming and humble! That was why the press was pushing McEnroe, Connors, and Nastase; made good COPY! Never a chance I'd jump on bandwagons of "bad guys" like John, Jimmy, Andre, or Boris! The greatest at the time just happen to be current faves; Pete, Bjorn, Ivan, and now Nole! :angel: :dodgy: :ras:

(Cough) You forgot Federer... :angel: :dodgy: :ras:

Nyah, the longer he hangs on the worse he's beginning to look! Roger's had his moments! That YEC semi a couple years ago with Stan comes to mind! Fed killed himself to win the match while Mirka offering rude commentary in the stands, and Roger's so injured there was no final against Nole the next day! All this occurring on the cusp of the 2 going for a DC title! :cover :nono

Excuse me. Let me give you a small piece of homework.

Can you count the number of times Fed had withdrawn before the match or retired during the match in his entire career?

Now, do the same for Novak.

:snicker:huh:uzzledlaydownlaughing

 

[Fiero425]

:angel: :deadhorse :violins: lease: ...and? Is this supposed to break my opinion of Djokovic for some absurd reason? Simple; I prefer watching Nole over Fed! Get over it! :eyepop :ras:

 

[GameSetAndMath]

:angel: :deadhorse :violins: lease: ...and? Is this supposed to break my opinion of Djokovic for some absurd reason? Simple; I prefer watching Nole over Fed! Get over it! :eyepop :ras:

You can watch whomever you want to watch. But, to criticize a player who has played 1325 matches and retired in ZERO matches for withdrawing from a match (which BTW he has done only two times I believe, once against Blake and once against Novak in the WTF final) is downright ridiculous. It is a matter of fact that Fed holds the record on both counts.

See this site for details which has data only upto 2014 though.:cover

 

[Fiero425]

:angel: :deadhorse :violins: lease: ...and? Is this supposed to break my opinion of Djokovic for some absurd reason? Simple; I prefer watching Nole over Fed! Get over it! :eyepop :ras:

You can watch whomever you want to watch. But, to criticize a player who has played 1325 matches and retired in ZERO matches for withdrawing from a match (which BTW he has done only two times I believe, once against Blake and once against Novak in the WTF final) is downright ridiculous. It is a matter of fact that Fed holds the record on both counts.

See this site for details which has data only upto 2014 though.:cover

Well I'm lost and outta here! This conversation has gone from strange to bizarre! :-/ :speechless: :cover

- http://fiero4251.blogspot.com/2016/08/fan-page-novak-nole-djokovic.html -

 

[Mile]

(Cough) You forgot Federer... :angel: :dodgy: :ras:

Nyah, the longer he hangs on the worse he's beginning to look! Roger's had his moments! That YEC semi a couple years ago with Stan comes to mind! Fed killed himself to win the match while Mirka offering rude commentary in the stands, and Roger's so injured there was no final against Nole the next day! All this occurring on the cusp of the 2 going for a DC title! :cover :nono

Excuse me. Let me give you a small piece of homework.

Can you count the number of times Fed had withdrawn before the match or retired during the match in his entire career?

Now, do the same for Novak.

:snicker:huh:uzzledlaydownlaughing

Do that, after Djoker passed alergy.

 

[Front242]

Allergy. :nono More like CVAC machine. He's actually been panting heavily in matches since Wimbledon so either he's back eating massive dollops of gluten or that whole gluten free crap is complete BS. Take your pick. His "fitness" changed so drastically overnight from late 2010 to 2011 there's zero chance it was all to do with gluten and I doubt many people are that naive to think there's not more to it.