US Open 2019, Flushing Meadows, NY USA - Grand Slam (Men)

[monfed]

LOL dull with another cakedraw. Expected.

Has dull ever got a hard draw at USO? I think the Americans like his muscles too much.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Yeah such an easy draw...

Second seed Rafael Nadal opens his campaign against Australian John Millman, who last year stunned Roger Federer in the fourth round. Nadal, a three-time champion, could meet another dangerous Aussie in Thanasi Kokkinakis — who also upset Federer last season (in Miami) — in the second round and fellow Spanish lefty Fernando Verdasco in the third round who beat Nadal at the 2016 Australian Open. Power hitters John Isner and former champion Marin Cilic are potential opponents for the Spaniard in the fourth round.

A year ago, Nadal contested one of the best matches of the season against Dominic Thiem here in Flushing Meadows, with both players bludgeoning the ball for four hours and 49 minutes in the quarter-finals until the legendary lefty prevailed in a final-set tie-break. They are seeded to meet in the semi-finals this year.

This is actually a horrible draw full of dangerous players in every round. Nadal has to be ready from the 1st round. All these players when they are having a great day can cause an upset.

 

[don_fabio]

I mentioned this somewhere, but worth repeating in this thread.

Even though Roger has never won USO since 2008, interestingly Roger is the last player to defend USO title. Nobody is able to defend their USO title since then. Assuming the pattern holds, Novak will not defend this time either. Advantage Fedal or may be Medal.

Speaking of patterns, Novak won AO, Wimb and USO in 2011 and 2015. This year he already won AO and Wimb, meaning he could win USO .

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Speaking of patterns, Novak won AO, Wimb and USO in 2011 and 2015. This year he already won AO and Wimb, meaning he could win USO .

That is a small sample size of two years. My pattern has a large size of ten years.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Yeah such an easy draw...

Second seed Rafael Nadal opens his campaign against Australian John Millman, who last year stunned Roger Federer in the fourth round. Nadal, a three-time champion, could meet another dangerous Aussie in Thanasi Kokkinakis — who also upset Federer last season (in Miami) — in the second round and fellow Spanish lefty Fernando Verdasco in the third round who beat Nadal at the 2016 Australian Open. Power hitters John Isner and former champion Marin Cilic are potential opponents for the Spaniard in the fourth round.

A year ago, Nadal contested one of the best matches of the season against Dominic Thiem here in Flushing Meadows, with both players bludgeoning the ball for four hours and 49 minutes in the quarter-finals until the legendary lefty prevailed in a final-set tie-break. They are seeded to meet in the semi-finals this year.

This is actually a horrible draw full of dangerous players in every round. Nadal has to be ready from the 1st round. All these players when they are having a great day can cause an upset.

Let's be positive
Atleast he just needs to get past one of the big 3 .. that's awesome News..

 

[don_fabio]

Is Tsitsipas going to get upset in R1? He isn't playing great recently and Mr. Nobody, sorry, Mr. Rublev is surely ready for a challenge. They played 2 times, Tsitsipas won in next gen finals and Rublev won in some challenger. Both matches were close so there is no reason to believe this one won't be let's say a close 4 sets or maybe 5. This is the R1 match I look forward the most.

Another guy who got a tough first round is FAA. He isn't playing great either and Shapo got some small momentum in Winston Salem and interestingly plays Rublev today. So FAA could also go down what seems like.

Also my man Fognini could easily lose to Opelka.

Any other possible upsets? Does someone think Fabbiano can upset Thiem due to his health issues?

 

[Carol]

LOL dull with another cakedraw. Expected.

Has dull ever got a hard draw at USO? I think the Americans like his muscles too much.

LOL, Federer has the easier draw, one more time like in Wimbledon

 

[mrzz]

Tennis is so unfair. Members of the big three never have to go through

Is Tsitsipas going to get upset in R1? He isn't playing great recently and Mr. Nobody, sorry, Mr. Rublev is surely ready for a challenge. They played 2 times, Tsitsipas won in next gen finals and Rublev won in some challenger. Both matches were close so there is no reason to believe this one won't be let's say a close 4 sets or maybe 5. This is the R1 match I look forward the most.

Another guy who got a tough first round is FAA. He isn't playing great either and Shapo got some small momentum in Winston Salem and interestingly plays Rublev today. So FAA could also go down what seems like.

Also my man Fognini could easily lose to Opelka.

Any other possible upsets? Does someone think Fabbiano can upset Thiem due to his health issues?

Rublev vs Tsitsipas is a helluva match and I really hope I can get it. Obviously will root wildly for Rublev, a guy I like a lot. Tsitsipas is the favorite though.

Yes, FAA x Shapovalov is a tricky one. I actually enjoy a lot seeing them playing doubles together.

Also agreed Fognini has his hands full with Opelka. It is easy to see him frustrated after a lost tie-break and gifting the match away. It must be excruciating to root for this guy.

 

[don_fabio]

Also agreed Fognini has his hands full with Opelka. It is easy to see him frustrated after a lost tie-break and gifting the match away. It must be excruciating to root for this guy.

Fognini is very hard to root for. Mostly doesn't explore his full potential and has lots of ups and downs in the matches, but when he does play top tennis he wins, like he won MC this year, that was awesome tennis. His efortless shotmaking on clay is joy to watch.

Oh, I almost forgot his worrying leg injury, he is definitely going down to cave man. Here I hope for a killer draw challenge, but will get wrong half of the matches

 

[DarthFed]

LOL, Federer has the easier draw, one more time like in Wimbledon

Well Nadal is the 2 seed and deserves to be but let's be honest, there is no way you'd switch positions in the draw with Fed. There is a bit of difference in class between playing Djokovic in the semis and whatever layup emerges from the 3rd quarter.

 

[Jelenafan]

Well Nadal is the 2 seed and deserves to be but let's be honest, there is no way you'd switch positions in the draw with Fed. There is a bit of difference in class between playing Djokovic in the semis and whatever layup emerges from the 3rd quarter.

I agree, thus why being ranked higher sometimes has its perks.

The funny thing about draws is that they don’t always pan out. I realize it’s a huge IF but if Novak gets upset early then Federer has the ultimate cupcake draw, but again draws are just a starting point.

 

[monfed]

When was the last time dull drew fakervic in his half in a slam?

 

[DarthFed]

I agree, thus why being ranked higher sometimes has its perks.

The funny thing about draws is that they don’t always pan out. I realize it’s a huge IF but if Novak gets upset early then Federer has the ultimate cupcake draw, but again draws are just a starting point.

Yes, as a Fed fan I can't complain. I still think he will blow a match early (before semis) because after the Wimbledon disaster he will be in that trend again (happened to him after IW vs DP last year). But Roger has about as easy a draw as we could hope for before semis. I just don't think for a second that he's over Wimbledon because I sure as fuck ain't.

 

[monfed]

Fed has destroyed his career with his own bare hands. If he cares about his legacy, he will play with the right mindset against faker in the SF and beat him this time. He would've redeemed himself in my eyes if he beats faker and dull B2B to win USO and become the undisputed USO GOAT.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Yes, as a Fed fan I can't complain. I still think he will blow a match early (before semis) because after the Wimbledon disaster he will be in that trend again (happened to him after IW vs DP last year). But Roger has about as easy a draw as we could hope for before semis. I just don't think for a second that he's over Wimbledon because I sure as fuck ain't.

Fed has destroyed his career with his own bare hands. If he cares about his legacy, he will play with the right mindset against faker in the SF and beat him this time. He would've redeemed himself in my eyes if he beats faker and dull B2B to win USO and become the undisputed USO GOAT.

When you both accept the fact that Federer isn't in the same league as Nadal and Djokovic and is up there in numbers with them only because he accumulated 10+ slams early on, then you would not be so hard on him... But you ask too much of him... He is not 4-10 and 6-10 in slams against them for nothing... The problem is that he had the huge lead due to the weak era before Nadal/Djokovic arrived so people like you automatically treated him like the Goat for all these years and it made you put unrealistic expectations on him... But other people knew that he was not the Goat even years ago and therefore we are not so hard on him... He's definitely Top 10 all-time though, just with a hugely inflated record... Somewhere between Borg and Connors when it comes to true greatness and when you eliminated the inflation and analyze beyond the numbers...

1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Laver
4. Sampras
5. Borg
6. Federer
7. Connors
8. Lendl
9. McEnroe
10. Agassi

The true battle for GOATness will be between Nadal and Djokovic for years and years to come...

 

[britbox]

Fed has destroyed his career with his own bare hands. If he cares about his legacy, he will play with the right mindset against faker in the SF and beat him this time. He would've redeemed himself in my eyes if he beats faker and dull B2B to win USO and become the undisputed USO GOAT.

Fed plays tennis for a living, not Playstation. I doubt redeeming himself in your eyes features very high on the radar.

 

[DarthFed]

When you both accept the fact that Federer isn't in the same league as Nadal and Djokovic and is up there in numbers with them only because he accumulated 10+ slams early on, then you would not be so hard on him... But you ask too much of him... He is not 4-10 and 6-10 in slams against them for nothing... The problem is that he had the huge lead due to the weak era before Nadal/Djokovic arrived so people like you automatically treated him like the Goat for all these years and it made you put unrealistic expectations on him... But other people knew that he was not the Goat even years ago and therefore we are not so hard on him... He's definitely Top 10 all-time though, just with a hugely inflated record... Somewhere between Borg and Connors when it comes to true greatness and when you eliminated the inflation and analyze beyond the numbers...

1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Laver
4. Sampras
5. Borg
6. Federer
7. Connors
8. Lendl
9. McEnroe
10. Agassi

The true battle for GOATness will be between Nadal and Djokovic for years and years to come...

Lol weak troll attempt. Roger had 4 slams before Nadal won his first and id say Roger did just fine against pre-prime Novak before he was washed up and past his prime and now Novak is beating up on the corpse of Fed and not too easily. Rafa is struggling with the corpse, imagine if they played more often on grass all these years including a decent surface at Wimbledon. Ah but Nadal was too busy losing to mega scrubs.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Lol weak troll attempt. Roger had 4 slams before Nadal won his first and id say Roger did just fine against pre-prime Novak before he was washed up and past his prime and now Novak is beating up on the corpse of Fed and not too easily. Rafa is struggling with the corpse, imagine if they played more often on grass all these years including a decent surface at Wimbledon. Ah but Nadal was too busy losing to mega scrubs.

Lol Nadal was a very early bloomer on clay... But outside of clay he came into his own and become a contender everywhere many years later... By that time Federer had 3 dominant seasons... Then Nadal took control and the only reason Federer could shine from time to time is due to Nadal always battling injuries, barely playing full seasons and always having to make comebacks and try to regain his form... Otherwise Nadal would already have the lead today by many slams despite being 5 years younger... I mean tennis nicknames have always been Frauderer, Weakerer, Vulterer showing how overrated he is, it's not a coincidence… However the main other nickname has been Dull...

 

[monfed]

When you both accept the fact that Federer isn't in the same league as Nadal and Djokovic and is up there in numbers with them only because he accumulated 10+ slams early on, then you would not be so hard on him... But you ask too much of him... He is not 4-10 and 6-10 in slams against them for nothing... The problem is that he had the huge lead due to the weak era before Nadal/Djokovic arrived so people like you automatically treated him like the Goat for all these years and it made you put unrealistic expectations on him... But other people knew that he was not the Goat even years ago and therefore we are not so hard on him... He's definitely Top 10 all-time though, just with a hugely inflated record... Somewhere between Borg and Connors when it comes to true greatness and when you eliminated the inflation and analyze beyond the numbers...

1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Laver
4. Sampras
5. Borg
6. Federer
7. Connors
8. Lendl
9. McEnroe
10. Agassi

The true battle for GOATness will be between Nadal and Djokovic for years and years to come...

Fed is the GOAT, gamewise. But you like other dulltards live in denial.

Two players who are so inferior gamewise to Fed, can't be the GOAT.

As far as I'm concerned, Laver is the GOAT now after Fed's royal screwup.

But let's stay on topic. So on that note, Fed's got a good shot to redeem himself in this USO, hopefully the court is quicker than last year.

 

[monfed]

Fed plays tennis for a living, not Playstation. I doubt redeeming himself in your eyes features very high on the radar.

Not just my eyes, he's lost a lot of respect amongst Fed fans all over the world for playing like chickenshit against fakervic on his favourite court. There's no excuse for losing 3 TBs, and losing 4 consecutive points from 40-15 while serving for the match, specially when he's done this against the same opponent before.

Legacy maynot matter for minor league players like Murray but it does matter for tier 1 players like Federer.