The perfect player

[brokenshoelace]

If you look at the same rating for whole career, he is not bad either. He comes in 4th. Nadalovic and Pistol are ahead of him as can be seen here

I definitely think Darth sells him a little short in that department but he's not entirely wrong. First of all, "pressure" is so difficult to define and can mean so many things. Staying on top for 4 consecutive years while barely losing matches is pressure, for example. Nevertheless, under the criteria given in the link you've posted, I'd say the problem for Roger is that his serve his so much better than Nadal and Djokovic that he should be far better in these moments. It's such an edge to have such a great serve, and the luxury to win cheap/quick points in these high pressure situations is immense. That alone means Roger should be better than he is in those moments.

 

[DarthFed]

I remember Tented recently posted career serve and receiving stats for Roger and I was surprised his break point % was higher than we expected and his break point saved was lower than we thought.

But in regards to TB's I'm just differentiating between the massive TB's and the ones that are less important. Of course they all are huge moments but it's a different pressure when it's a tiebreak to decide a big match instead of a first set TB at an MS event. I wish they had the decisive set TB record available. It is a dreadful stat for Roger. 0-4 vs Djoker, 0-1 vs Nadal and I think 0-3 vs DP. I posted a longer list a few weeks ago after the recent disaster but that's not the whole list of course.

 

[tented]

I remember Tented recently posted career serve and receiving stats for Roger and I was surprised his break point % was higher than we expected and his break point saved was lower than we thought.

But in regards to TB's I'm just differentiating between the massive TB's and the ones that are less important. Of course they all are huge moments but it's a different pressure when it's a tiebreak to decide a big match instead of a first set TB at an MS event. I wish they had the decisive set TB record available. It is a dreadful stat for Roger. 0-4 vs Djoker, 0-1 vs Nadal and I think 0-3 vs DP. I posted a longer list a few weeks ago after the recent disaster but that's not the whole list of course.

 

[Moxie]

You are just itching for a fight my dear.

Always. But we'll pick this one up later, I'm sure.

 

[Ricardo]

but women never conquered anywhere, don't think they would actually pick a 'fight'.....it's always just lippy stuff, triggered by hormonal imbalance.

 

[Ricardo]

I remember Tented recently posted career serve and receiving stats for Roger and I was surprised his break point % was higher than we expected and his break point saved was lower than we thought.

But in regards to TB's I'm just differentiating between the massive TB's and the ones that are less important. Of course they all are huge moments but it's a different pressure when it's a tiebreak to decide a big match instead of a first set TB at an MS event. I wish they had the decisive set TB record available. It is a dreadful stat for Roger. 0-4 vs Djoker, 0-1 vs Nadal and I think 0-3 vs DP. I posted a longer list a few weeks ago after the recent disaster but that's not the whole list of course.

He is strangely more vulnerable in big matches he could've won than expected a player of his calibre. As mentioned before you look at Nadal and Djokovic, they certainly let significantly less matches slip away when closing them out. The Fed naysayers would tell us that the other players just rose to the occasions, but the long term trend just can't be argued and they say that as a backhanded way to talk him down. Time after time he held match points vs Djoker and let it slip, and they say Djokovic just took the match away...…..bullshit, one unreturnable serve or his inside out fh could've sealed the deal yet he simply didn't execute when it mattered, it was on his racquet, not Djoker's.

 

[brokenshoelace]

The misogynistic piece of shit act is getting stale.

 

[Ricardo]

The misogynistic piece of shit act is getting stale.

which bit is misogynistic? or it's the usual fashion shit we see on the media all the time, and idiots bought into such ideas.

 

[Ricardo]

every time someone mentions misogyny Moxie gets an orgasm

 

[Moxie]

^ Incel.

 

[brokenshoelace]

every time someone mentions misogyny Moxie gets an orgasm

Unfortunately you're only an expert on one of those things.

 

[Ricardo]

Unfortunately you're only an expert on one of those things.

I merely stated a fact which you obviously acknowledged, no need to be salty about it.

 

[monfed]

If Federer had Pete's clutchness/mental strength, he would be the perfect player.

 

[rafanoy1992]

Here's my ideal perfect male tennis player:

1st serve: Karlovic or Isner

2nd Serve: Sampras or Isner

Forehand: Overall forehand: Federer; Topspin forehand: Nadal; Flat forehand: Delpo or Fernando Gonzalez

Backhand: Offensive and defensive backhand: Djokovic; special mention Wawrinka but only offensive backhand; Slice backhand: Federer or Murray

Return of serve: Djokovic then Murray

Balance: Djokovic

Height: The Big Four

Footwork: The Big Four (Yes, I included Murray here)

Tennis IQ: Nadal and Murray

Mentality (heart, determination, fighting spirit): Nadal

 

[monfed]

Let's see -

Mental strength - Pete Sampras
FH - Fed
BH - Fed overall, GOAT slice. Stan and Gasquet's BH's are great but they are shit on slick low bouncing surfaces that's why they suck indoors.
Serve - Sampras
Footwork - Fed
Return of serve - Federer/Agassi for fast serves, Fakervic for slow high bouncing serves
Volleys - Edberg

Hope I didn't miss any part.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Let's see -

Mental strength - Pete Sampras
FH - Fed
BH - Fed overall, GOAT slice. Stan and Gasquet's BH's are great but they are shit on slick low bouncing surfaces that's why they suck indoors.
Serve - Sampras
Footwork - Fed
Return of serve - Federer/Agassi for fast serves, Fakervic for slow high bouncing serves
Volleys - Edberg

Hope I didn't miss any part.

You missed the part when you & Federer get a room. :heart:

 

[Jelenafan]

Only one perfect shot in tennis:

BH volley: Stefan Edberg.

 

[britbox]

Only one perfect shot in tennis:

BH volley: Stefan Edberg.

A work of art.

 

[Ricardo]

Tony Roche has a perfect volley, watched him practice with Querrey smacking at him then he could put away for winners with ease....didn’t even miss one.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I think it was in this thread where BS asked how many slams Ralph would not have won if not for improper coaching from sidelines.
I am inclined to say probably none.

However, I do want to ask a related question (and give my answer to it). How many slams Ralph would not have won if the umpire imposed strict time limit on his serves from the beginning of his career? Not only he delays the game when he is serving, how frequently
he forces the opponent to wait for him to get ready before serving? He typically takes lot more time (both on serve and returning) when the point involved is an important point. I feel that he would have had at least four (if not more) slams less if he had to play by the rules,
This is a clear gamesmanship and lots of people don't take it seriously. It should be taken seriously. Moreover it has clear impact on
the outcome of the matches as the delay is significantly larger on important points which finally goes his way.