The Ouster of Chris Kermode and what's up with ATP Politics

[britbox]

But you have to admit: the ATP was created as a players association. Now it runs the tours, so there IS a conflict between players' interests and tournaments' interests. It almost seems unfair that the players would have to consider breaking off to a separate union, to take care of their own interests, when they created the ATP, in the beginning. Think about that.

Sure there is a conflict. There's a conflict within the players union too usually... the lower ranked players usually want more money flowing down the funnel. Let's just say it how it is... everyone wants as much money for themselves as possible.

 

[10isfan]

Who thinks Gimelstob is innocent of beating his friend? Someone like him shouldn’t be holding a position of power.

 

[Moxie]

Who thinks Gimelstob is innocent of beating his friend? Someone like him shouldn’t be holding a position of power.

I think you should explain this. No idea what you mean.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Justin Gimelstob resigns from ATP board after being convicted of a violent assault. It is highly likely that he will also be ousted from Tennis Channel.

 

[Moxie]

Justin Gimelstob resigns from ATP board after being convicted of a violent assault. It is highly likely that he will also be ousted from Tennis Channel.

I had no idea what was going on with Gimelstob. Thanks for bring this to light. I read this interesting article in the NYT, which came about before Justin resigned, but is rather fascinating and backstory in terms of his involvement with the ATP, and other machinations. Also, this more recent update on the state of the various negotiations and alliances. Apparently, there is a chance that Kermode's contract could be renewed after all. Standby to see who is named as Gimelstob's replacement, which I think is supposed to happen this week.

As to Tennis Channel, I also think they'll dump him. At least for now.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Apparently, Brad Gilbder, Tim Mayotte and Dani Vallverdu where running for the ATP Board as players' rep. They will get elected by the ATP player's council (of which Novak is the President). In fact, the election should have happened today and we should know tomorrow (or perhaps already now) as to who is the new board member.

JG was lobbying to become the Executive Chairman and President of ATP (the post currently held by Kermode). Now, not only that he has no chance of becoming that, he lost his position in the board as well. Expect TC to fire him soon. He is no longer officially the coach of Isner. So, his income is derived basically from some video productions by his company on behalf of ATP.

I am actually glad that JG will be out of power and position. Never liked the guy due to various reasons.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

MAY 14, 2019 05:40 PM, UPDATED 5 HOURS 37 MINUTES AGO
ROME
Former top-10 player Nicolas Lapentti and former ATP executive Weller Evans are the finalists to replace Justin Gimelstob on the ATP board.

The 10 voting members of the player council chose them from a list of six candidates on Tuesday at the Italian Open.

There originally had been 15 candidates — including former players Brad Gilbert and Tim Mayotte — before that group was whittled to a half-dozen.


A decision between Lapentti and Evans will come during the player council meeting at Wimbledon next month.

 

[don_fabio]

I had no idea what was going on with Gimelstob. Thanks for bring this to light. I read this interesting article in the NYT, which came about before Justin resigned, but is rather fascinating and backstory in terms of his involvement with the ATP, and other machinations. Also, this more recent update on the state of the various negotiations and alliances. Apparently, there is a chance that Kermode's contract could be renewed after all. Standby to see who is named as Gimelstob's replacement, which I think is supposed to happen this week.

As to Tennis Channel, I also think they'll dump him. At least for now.

Interesting indeed. I've read both articles which brings me up to speed with this whole ATP politics thing.

How easily one can loose his career over a bad temper.

 

[tented]

Interesting indeed. I've read both articles which brings me up to speed with this whole ATP politics thing.

How easily one can loose his career over a bad temper.

Except John McEnroe, but that’s a different story ...

 

[Horsa]

Except John McEnroe, but that’s a different story ...

In McEnroe's case, his temper tantrums made things more interesting to some people.

 

[Moxie]

@vince evert: Here's the recap: Chris Kermode is the President of the ATP. Last winter, the player's council, of which Novak is the President, voted not to renew his contract. This wasn't 100% popular, since many see him as the guy that helped shepherded this great era of men's tennis, and helped monetize it well. This was during IW, I think. Rather notably, Federer invited Rafa over to his house for coffee to discuss. (They were not then on the Player's Council, but are back on it now.) Roger made it known that he had tried to contact Novak to discuss before the decision was made, and was told Djokovic didn't have the time. Basically, Roger and Rafa came out on the side of keeping Kermode. Novak said it was not his decision alone.

My understanding is that it's not a done deal that Kermode is out, because they can still renew his contract, which is up maybe at the end of this year. Don't know if this is correct. Since Roger's friend Anna Wintour came out to do a coin toss, one assumes that Roger invited her. So when Kermode showed up to do the same, one also assumes it was Roger's idea. And it was Rafa's doubles match, Rafa shaking hands with him. No way Rafa wouldn't have been consulted on that. Even my commentators on Tennis Channel here in the US said, "We'll leave the politics out of this discussion," meaning they wouldn't comment about Kermode being there, but noting that there were politics. To me, it seemed a very pointed choice.

That's the Reader's Digest version, off top of my memory, so forgive any errors. If you're interested any further, you might browse this thread.

 

[Fiero425]

Apparently, Brad Gilbder, Tim Mayotte and Dani Vallverdu where running for the ATP Board as players' rep. They will get elected by the ATP player's council (of which Novak is the President). In fact, the election should have happened today and we should know tomorrow (or perhaps already now) as to who is the new board member.

JG was lobbying to become the Executive Chairman and President of ATP (the post currently held by Kermode). Now, not only that he has no chance of becoming that, he lost his position in the board as well. Expect TC to fire him soon. He is no longer officially the coach of Isner. So, his income is derived basically from some video productions by his company on behalf of ATP.

I am actually glad that JG will be out of power and position. Never liked the guy due to various reasons.

I can take or leave JG; his ego probably out of control with his successes off the court! I still remember his bit part on an episode of "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" yrs ago! He had a couple scenes along with C. Evert & L. Davenporte IIRC! :whistle: :cuckoo:

 

[Vince Evert]

@vince evert: Here's the recap: Chris Kermode is the President of the ATP. Last winter, the player's council, of which Novak is the President, voted not to renew his contract. This wasn't 100% popular, since many see him as the guy that helped shepherded this great era of men's tennis, and helped monetize it well. This was during IW, I think. Rather notably, Federer invited Rafa over to his house for coffee to discuss. (They were not then on the Player's Council, but are back on it now.) Roger made it known that he had tried to contact Novak to discuss before the decision was made, and was told Djokovic didn't have the time. Basically, Roger and Rafa came out on the side of keeping Kermode. Novak said it was not his decision alone.

My understanding is that it's not a done deal that Kermode is out, because they can still renew his contract, which is up maybe at the end of this year. Don't know if this is correct. Since Roger's friend Anna Wintour came out to do a coin toss, one assumes that Roger invited her. So when Kermode showed up to do the same, one also assumes it was Roger's idea. And it was Rafa's doubles match, Rafa shaking hands with him. No way Rafa wouldn't have been consulted on that. Even my commentators on Tennis Channel here in the US said, "We'll leave the politics out of this discussion," meaning they wouldn't comment about Kermode being there, but noting that there were politics. To me, it seemed a very pointed choice.

That's the Reader's Digest version, off top of my memory, so forgive any errors. If you're interested any further, you might browse this thread.

thanks for the summary. I do not follow the game as i once have so was not aware of the off court politics. One reason for it being I AM NOT A DJOKOVIC FAN. His stalling and gamesmenship tactics are legendary.

 

[Fiero425]

thanks for the summary. I do not follow the game as i once have so was not aware of the off court politics. One reason for it being I AM NOT A DJOKOVIC FAN. His stalling and gamesmenship tactics are legendary.

You're kidding? :cuckoo: So if Nole's all that and more, what about Rafa? What's your thoughts on his court persona? :whistle:

 

[Vince Evert]

You're kidding? :cuckoo: So if Nole's all that and more, what about Rafa? What's your thoughts on his court persona? :whistle:

yes Nadal is another one who chooses to slow things down, but Novak's gamesmenship is even worse. Like that USO final where he interrupted play for 10 minutes , with supposed injury versus Wawrinka during the fourth set - twice.

 

[Carol]

VERY interesting statement by Stakhovsky about the Player Council scandal and why Federer and Nadal decided to join again.
Click on that page and you will see the whole interview

 

[Carol]

You're kidding? :cuckoo: So if Nole's all that and more, what about Rafa? What's your thoughts on his court persona? :whistle:

Ssssshhhhhh, you should be quiet! o_O :cuckoo: