Moxie
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calitennis127 said:Moxie629 said:OK, I can't wait any longer for someone else to call you out on this: Cali, sweetheart, you have never been a fan of Nadal, loyal or otherwise.
My remark was tongue-in-cheek and was meant to make all of you Nadal fans roll your eyes.
Moxie629 said:"Admirer," as to points about his athleticism and mental strength you cop to, but "fan?" You can't even say he's a talented tennis player. And I have asked you, feet to the fire. You said no.
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That is not true at all.:laydownlaughing
What I have maintained is that if you look at the disparity between his accomplishments and the rest of the field's, it is not explained by a difference in talent level (in terms of tennis skill and shotmaking) that is proportionate to the difference in achievement.
I look at the H2H with Federer, for instance, as an indictment of Federer more than a compliment to Nadal.
If you are going strictly by shotmaking - Nadal should not have 2 US Opens and Djokovic only 1. Nadal should not have a summer hardcourt sweep that neither Federer nor Djokovic ever pulled off.
There are other factors besides pure tennis talent that explain these odd differences.
It IS true, my friend. Since your assessment of Nadal has had to move so drastically over the years to make up for Nadal's accomplishments, you've had to go from some variation of 'he's a flash in the pan', to he's a physical beast, and toward 'he's mentally tougher than anyone else,' with segues into insisting that consistency on serve is somehow a near-cheat. In one of my more recent reassessments of your endless changes of heart, I asked you if you would then, finally say that Nadal was a talented tennis player, and you said no. Are you willing to say now, that he is? Because I'd like to hear that.
You go on and on about shot-making, but you never seem to be able to see it when Nadal does it. Federer is the one responsible for that un-balanced h2h; Djokovic is "inexcusable" (the word you love so much, which really means nothing,) for losses to Nadal. When is it going to finally register with you that Nadal is actually a top-drawer, best of all time tennis player?
OK, never, I know. But I just had to get that off of my chest. So keep complaining about how you don't like his brand of tennis, and try to make little of it. He's going to keep winning in big moments. You'll keep asking 'why?' even though for the rest of the world, it's crystal clear.