The Greatest Rivalries

The Greatest Modern Rivalry

  • Nadal v Djokovic

    Votes: 7 53.8%
  • Nadal v Federer

    Votes: 4 30.8%
  • Nadal v Murray

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Murray v Djokovic

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Murray v Federer

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Federer v Djokovic

    Votes: 2 15.4%

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ClayDeath

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and i agree with myself.

nole is gracious in defeat. he is just not a bad person.

he is a born killer. you don't become #1 in this sport without a killer instinct.

not in modern tennis. the game has become too demanding.
 

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Clay Death said:
and i agree with myself.

nole is gracious in defeat. he is just not a bad person.

he is a born killer. you don't become #1 in this sport without a killer instinct.

not in modern tennis. the game has become too demanding.

And I agree with you too, Lord Death!
 

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Clay Death said:
matches are not life and death.

and nole just happens to be gracious in defeat.

he did not become #1 on the planet by being a good loser.

what are you smoking darth fed? it must be good.
:laydownlaughing :laydownlaughing

why the hell should matches be life & death ?? If you follow this policy, it might be incredibly hard for a person to get over consecutive losses to a person. Consecutive Losses would eventually lead to anger towards his opponent & Anger might cloud a person's judgement during matches & this could result in further losses.
Instead, Every player should try to accept the fact that his opponent was better than him on that day & he should move on & try to improve his weaknesses.


I've rarely seen a grim/bad handshake from Nole regardless of whether he wins or lose.
He's never a sore loser like Berdych.
& this is one of the main qualities that has made me his fan.
 

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Kieran said:
DarthFed said:
If you are going by the general public it is probably Fed-Rafa. By any reasonable measure the greatest rivalry among the top 4 is Rafa-Nole and after that I'd say Fed-Nole and then Fed-Rafa. And note I'm talking historically what are the best rivalries. If we are talking present I'd rank them as follows:

1. Nole-Rafa
2. Nole-Murray
3. Nole-Fed
4. Fed-Murray
5. Rafa-Murray
6. Rafa-Fed

That's a good post, Darth. And I agree, the romantic says that it's Rafa v Roger, but practically speaking, Roger hasn't beaten Rafa at a slam since 2007 and so there's an inevitability to their big matches: Rafa wins them.

With Novak, it's hard to guess who'll win, even on clay, even on hards. The unpredictability is the attraction. And of course, now they're historical rivals, denying each other space on the podium and nicking wins that keep the other from slipping further up the greasy pole of greatness. If they met at Flushing Meadows, you wouldn't be shocked if either of them won.

The Novak-Roger rivalry probably has more GS matches than any other, but Nole was young when this begun and now Roger is getting on. They're not meeting in the middle so much. But even still, this one might carry most spite and Roger has beaten him on all four slams, and cruelly exposed him in Paris in 2011 and Wimbledon last year. Novak has those exhilarating US Open victories in the semis, which kind of scrubbed the memory of Roger's tweener in 2009.

With Murray, I think his rivalry with Nole is the only valid one: he's gotten results against Rafa and Roger, but Novak is his direct contemporary and they've written a few chapters in the slams which are taking glory off each other and developing into something big. It reminds me of the Becker-Edberg rivalry, in the sense that it was small town as opposed to the Big City rivalries of Lendl-Mac or Fedal...

DarthFed and Kieran, these two posts are Perfect. There isn't nothing else to be said, IMO. good stuff , guys:clap:cool:
 

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Kieran said:
Clay Death said:
and i agree with myself.

nole is gracious in defeat. he is just not a bad person.

he is a born killer. you don't become #1 in this sport without a killer instinct.

not in modern tennis. the game has become too demanding.

And I agree with you too, Lord Death!



affirmative general.
 

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ashwin#1 said:
Clay Death said:
matches are not life and death.

and nole just happens to be gracious in defeat.

he did not become #1 on the planet by being a good loser.

what are you smoking darth fed? it must be good.
:laydownlaughing :laydownlaughing

why the hell should matches be life & death ?? If you follow this policy, it might be incredibly hard for a person to get over consecutive losses to a person. Consecutive Losses would eventually lead to anger towards his opponent & Anger might cloud a person's judgement during matches & this could result in further losses.
Instead, Every player should try to accept the fact that his opponent was better than him on that day & he should move on & try to improve his weaknesses.


I've rarely seen a grim/bad handshake from Nole regardless of whether he wins or lose.
He's never a sore loser like Berdych.
& this is one of the main qualities that has made me his fan.

They aren't life and death but that's the attitude you need to bring to the court. This is not 10 year olds playing little league baseball. We are talking about top professionals playing for glory and millions of dollars. Opponents are just impediments to that glory and $$$. Nole is great, doesn't mean he can't be greater with more of a killer instinct...
 

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I was a Connors-Borg fan--still love the rivalry. McEnroe v. Connors or Borg was always more compelling to me than his rivalry with Lendl. I was not too fond of Ivan back then and did not like watching him. But, I did respect how great he was. I preferred his battles with Connors actually.

Getting into the last twenty years or so, I would have to see the matched between Federer-Nadal from 2005-2008 were scintillating for the difference in styles and the pure shot-making abilities of both. Since then it has been less thrilling because Federer does not seem to play as well against Rafa as he did in those first four years; Rafa "shows up" and more often than not, Roger does not. When both are playing well against each other, though, it is a joy to watch.

I would next have Federer-Djokovic, at least that of the last two or three years. Roger seems to "show up" more against Nole than Rafa for some reason. Because they are both fairly aggressive and like to control the flow of the match, I find their battles very entertaining. Nadal-Novak is right there with them, though. Talk about grinding and fighting over long rallies. Whew, it is exhausting just watching them.

For reasons previously stated, I did not get much out of Sampras-Agassi or Borg-Lendl--they just did not do it for me. Same can be said for Novak-Murray matches; I just don't get as thrilled by the shotmaking.