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Front242 said:
calitennis127 said:
Kieran said:
Now before it grows legs and runs ahead of me: it was me who mentioned Sampras and I confined it to certain aspects of his match today. I didn't mean that Kyrgios is comparable to Pete, or that he's the next Pete, or any bandwagon stuff. The caveats are in place.

But for his performance today under pressure, his ability to hurl serves when he needed them, his slouch and his composure, he was reminiscent of one of the incomparable ones.

But....etc...


I agree that Kyrgios's mentality sets him apart from most of the players in his generation. He is much tougher and brings some American football/basketball swagger to the plate.

He wouldn't have won the match against Nadal without it.

He is also a great athlete and seems to have pretty good stamina.

Have a read of some of the bitter Nadal fans coments here. Some utter nonsense posts slagging Kyrgios completely unfairly for nothing. Unreal.

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2014/07/teen-who-beat-nadal-at-wimbledon-out-next-week/52003/#.U7mr4bE9C2X

I'm kind of against posting that stuff, Front. (My personal opinion, not TF.) Overall, the quality of discussion, and of posters is way lower over there. It's not what OUR Rafa fans say, and I hope you'll remember that the next time you decide to make some point about what "Rafa fans say."
 

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I realize it's nothing like the Rafa fans here, just find it disappointing the lack of respect Kyrgios is getting already after his best week ever and he's basically only just joined the ATP tour. Sad to see.
 

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Moxie629 said:
Front242 said:
calitennis127 said:
Kieran said:
Now before it grows legs and runs ahead of me: it was me who mentioned Sampras and I confined it to certain aspects of his match today. I didn't mean that Kyrgios is comparable to Pete, or that he's the next Pete, or any bandwagon stuff. The caveats are in place.

But for his performance today under pressure, his ability to hurl serves when he needed them, his slouch and his composure, he was reminiscent of one of the incomparable ones.

But....etc...


I agree that Kyrgios's mentality sets him apart from most of the players in his generation. He is much tougher and brings some American football/basketball swagger to the plate.

He wouldn't have won the match against Nadal without it.

He is also a great athlete and seems to have pretty good stamina.

Have a read of some of the bitter Nadal fans coments here. Some utter nonsense posts slagging Kyrgios completely unfairly for nothing. Unreal.

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2014/07/teen-who-beat-nadal-at-wimbledon-out-next-week/52003/#.U7mr4bE9C2X

I'm kind of against posting that stuff, Front. (My personal opinion, not TF.) Overall, the quality of discussion, and of posters is way lower over there. It's not what OUR Rafa fans say, and I hope you'll remember that the next time you decide to make some point about what "Rafa fans say."

I do think Front was pointing at a specific group of rafa fans. I think everybody here (as you would expect) showed due respect to the kid. I find those quotes entertaining. There are aggressive, delusional fans in everybody's camp Mox ;). Thankfully none of them are here.
 

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Yeah, it's not as if Front is all sweet as pie when Rafa wins. Those fans are on another forum, Front. I've seen Fedfans post horrendous stuff about Rafa - on here! ;)
 

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^ I enjoy reading some of the trolling trash on other boards on occasion. I'm just saying that to bring that poison here is another thing, IMO. I just don't want people to vaguely remember that they read that stuff on this forum, and forget where it came from, eh? But I do know why it's fun to read…because they're such morons! :laydownlaughing
 

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Moxie629 said:
^ I enjoy reading some of the trolling trash on other boards on occasion. I'm just saying that to bring that poison here is another thing, IMO. I just don't want people to vaguely remember that they read that stuff on this forum, and forget where it came from, eh? But I do know why it's fun to read…because they're such morons! :laydownlaughing

I here ya, but I wouldn't have gotten to read them if Front hadn't brought it over here :cry
 

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Riotbeard said:
Front242 said:
calitennis127 said:
Kieran said:
Now before it grows legs and runs ahead of me: it was me who mentioned Sampras and I confined it to certain aspects of his match today. I didn't mean that Kyrgios is comparable to Pete, or that he's the next Pete, or any bandwagon stuff. The caveats are in place.

But for his performance today under pressure, his ability to hurl serves when he needed them, his slouch and his composure, he was reminiscent of one of the incomparable ones.

But....etc...


I agree that Kyrgios's mentality sets him apart from most of the players in his generation. He is much tougher and brings some American football/basketball swagger to the plate.

He wouldn't have won the match against Nadal without it.

He is also a great athlete and seems to have pretty good stamina.

Have a read of some of the bitter Nadal fans coments here. Some utter nonsense posts slagging Kyrgios completely unfairly for nothing. Unreal.

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2014/07/teen-who-beat-nadal-at-wimbledon-out-next-week/52003/#.U7mr4bE9C2X

Great delusional rafa fan noise here:

"This guy is another Rosol..thats it ...Had rafa played a better 3rd set, He would have gone home then only and Rafa would have beaten Raonic and Fed with his auto pilot mode ..Unfortunately Rafa played a bad 3rd set when he was 5-4 and had two chances to close on 6-4 and again in tie breaker , he lost a simple rally with Kyrgios ...Otherwise Rafa would have made to finals and probably beaten Novak ...It was just a lottery for Kyrgios that rafa played a bad tennis on that day..."

Jumping the gun a bit. They forgot to put that after rafa would have beaten novak (had he not played crap tennis in the round of 16), he would have ascended to heaven gold trophy in hand, never to be seen again, until entering the 2060 wimbledon under an assumed name as a wild card winning again as the resurreectd rafa.

The funny thing is Rosol did quite well to prove that it is not a one off "lights out" win
that he had against Rafa couple of years ago, by performing quite well this year even though
he lost. In particular, he lost the second set by a stupid double fault and if not, the story
might be completely different with a two set lead.

I know we don't want to talk in "what if" mode. But, the point I am making is that
Rosol did a highly reasonable job in his match against Rafa this year (to call his
previous victory a fluke).
 

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Rosol was great this year. He plays the role well and I love his attitude and grit - when he faces Rafa. Dunno why he stands down against others, but the fact is, if he played every match like he plays Rafa, he'd be top 20, easy...