The Best In the Best of 5

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DarthFed said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
I'm assuming you mean five set matches (meaning matches that go the distance), rather best of five, which is any match that takes place in a Grand Slam, even if it ends in three.

I recall Djokovic having a very good record in five-setters, even better than Nadal's if I'm not mistaken. Meanwhile, Roger's record isn't that good by his lofty standards, and surprisingly, it used to be worse when he was in his prime, oddly enough.

It's not that surprising that his record has improved. In his prime he could only be taken to 5 by good/great players. As he has aged he has needed to go 5 with a lot of players now and usually he is beating the lesser players. Roger's problem has been the 5th set against great players. His record is hideous in that regard.

Not to mention losing matches after having a lead; even 2 sets to none! Roger would have had 6 USO titles in a row but for collapsing against DelPo in '09 up 2-0 in sets!
 

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Fiero425 said:
DarthFed said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
I'm assuming you mean five set matches (meaning matches that go the distance), rather best of five, which is any match that takes place in a Grand Slam, even if it ends in three.

I recall Djokovic having a very good record in five-setters, even better than Nadal's if I'm not mistaken. Meanwhile, Roger's record isn't that good by his lofty standards, and surprisingly, it used to be worse when he was in his prime, oddly enough.

It's not that surprising that his record has improved. In his prime he could only be taken to 5 by good/great players. As he has aged he has needed to go 5 with a lot of players now and usually he is beating the lesser players. Roger's problem has been the 5th set against great players. His record is hideous in that regard.

Not to mention losing matches after having a lead; even 2 sets to none! Roger would have had 6 USO titles in a row but for collapsing against DelPo in '09 up 2-0 in sets!

No, the final score was 3-6, 7-6(5), 4-6, 7-6(4), 6-2

I think Fed has only twice been up 2-0 in a five-setter and lost:
- Berdych in the 2010 Wimbledon
- Djokovic in the 2011 USO
 

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tented said:
Fiero425 said:
DarthFed said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
I'm assuming you mean five set matches (meaning matches that go the distance), rather best of five, which is any match that takes place in a Grand Slam, even if it ends in three.

I recall Djokovic having a very good record in five-setters, even better than Nadal's if I'm not mistaken. Meanwhile, Roger's record isn't that good by his lofty standards, and surprisingly, it used to be worse when he was in his prime, oddly enough.

It's not that surprising that his record has improved. In his prime he could only be taken to 5 by good/great players. As he has aged he has needed to go 5 with a lot of players now and usually he is beating the lesser players. Roger's problem has been the 5th set against great players. His record is hideous in that regard.

Not to mention losing matches after having a lead; even 2 sets to none! Roger would have had 6 USO titles in a row but for collapsing against DelPo in '09 up 2-0 in sets!

No, the final score was 3-6, 7-6(5), 4-6, 7-6(4), 6-2

I think Fed has only twice been up 2-0 in a five-setter and lost:
- Berdych in the 2010 Wimbledon
- Djokovic in the 2011 USO

Close but it was Tsonga in 2011 Wimbledon. Roger did it in back to back GS to end 2011. I have little doubt that being PO'ed from that stretch helped lead to 2012, am hoping we will soon see the same thing with 2014 following 2013.
 

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DarthFed said:
tented said:
Fiero425 said:
DarthFed said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
I'm assuming you mean five set matches (meaning matches that go the distance), rather best of five, which is any match that takes place in a Grand Slam, even if it ends in three.

I recall Djokovic having a very good record in five-setters, even better than Nadal's if I'm not mistaken. Meanwhile, Roger's record isn't that good by his lofty standards, and surprisingly, it used to be worse when he was in his prime, oddly enough.

It's not that surprising that his record has improved. In his prime he could only be taken to 5 by good/great players. As he has aged he has needed to go 5 with a lot of players now and usually he is beating the lesser players. Roger's problem has been the 5th set against great players. His record is hideous in that regard.

Not to mention losing matches after having a lead; even 2 sets to none! Roger would have had 6 USO titles in a row but for collapsing against DelPo in '09 up 2-0 in sets!

No, the final score was 3-6, 7-6(5), 4-6, 7-6(4), 6-2

I think Fed has only twice been up 2-0 in a five-setter and lost:
- Berdych in the 2010 Wimbledon
- Djokovic in the 2011 USO

Close but it was Tsonga in 2011 Wimbledon. Roger did it in back to back GS to end 2011. I have little doubt that being PO'ed from that stretch helped lead to 2012, am hoping we will soon see the same thing with 2014 following 2013.

Thanks for the correction.