Tennis Frontier Commentates the 2015 Wimbledon Finals

[Kirijax]

It was a fun post that most Frontierers enjoyed. Too bad it has to be ruined by the few. It's a tennis fan forum. Lighten up a bit. The "Society-is-unfair-I am-a-victim" thread is over there.

 

[Billie]

Everybody is different, we don't have the same sense of humor nor we are all brought up the same way. Still calling somebody idiot or calling somebody's posts idiotic and what not is really not nice.

As far as I know Cali didn't really insult anybody personally unless it was war of words with certain posters. As for the tennis views, it is normal that they are different. Yeah Cali is outrageous and out there sometimes but I never minded that. I actually think that the board is more interesting with somebody like Cali who is really passionate about so many things and is willing to argue for his cases, no matter how different we might think they are from ours.

 

[Kirijax]

Billie! Where have you been!? It's good to see you.

 

[Billie]

Billie! Where have you been!? It's good to see you.

I self banned myself from the board. Sometimes I just have enough of it and need a bit of break if that makes sense to you.

I was reading a little bit to catch up for the missed time and I have to say that you are doing a marvelous job here with topics and posts and moderating, Kirijax.:clap

 

[Kirijax]

Billie! Where have you been!? It's good to see you.

I self banned myself from the board. Sometimes I just have enough of it and need a bit of break if that makes sense to you.

I was reading a little bit to catch up for the missed time and I have to say that you are doing a marvelous job here with topics and posts and moderating, Kirijax.:clap

I understand Billie. It can grate on you after a while.

Thanks for the comments. I've had good mentors in kskate2, tented, Riotbeard and 1972Murat!

 

[brokenshoelace]

Everybody is different, we don't have the same sense of humor nor we are all brought up the same way. Still calling somebody idiot or calling somebody's posts idiotic and what not is really not nice.

As far as I know Cali didn't really insult anybody personally unless it was war of words with certain posters. As for the tennis views, it is normal that they are different. Yeah Cali is outrageous and out there sometimes but I never minded that. I actually think that the board is more interesting with somebody like Cali who is really passionate about so many things and is willing to argue for his cases, no matter how different we might think they are from ours.

Always appreciate it when you stand up for the rights of the common people.

Now please can everyone just take this thread for the light hearted harmless one that it is?

And LOL @ Cali never insulting anybody.

 

[calitennis127]

"Brother, you still don't get it..." :cover

I get it almost as well as your ludicrous satire comparing Nalbandian to Monfils.

Well, if I did it, I was right...

No, Nalbandian was always complimented for being a "smart match player" or a "great tactician" or a "mathematician on the court" from a young age. Just watch his semifinal with Roddick at the US Open to hear how he was described. Monfils has rarely been described as such. Nalbandian's level on the baseline was consistently higher and more substantive than Monfils's has been. To say that they belong to the same category of "all flash, no substance" is a typical Kieran-esque generalization fit for superhero mythology.

 

[Kieran]

I get it almost as well as your ludicrous satire comparing Nalbandian to Monfils.

Well, if I did it, I was right...

No, Nalbandian was always complimented for being a "smart match player" or a "great tactician" or a "mathematician on the court" from a young age. Just watch his semifinal with Roddick at the US Open to hear how he was described. Monfils has rarely been described as such. Nalbandian's level on the baseline was consistently higher and more substantive than Monfils's has been. To say that they belong to the same category of "all flash, no substance" is a typical Kieran-esque generalization fit for superhero mythology.

Brother, help us all out here: where's the post where I compared Monfils to Daveed? It would make things simpler, because you see, once you excavate it and bring it out into the light, you'll see you're wrongly representing it, and then I'll force you to admit that you're wrongly representing it.

I'm good at that kinda thing...

 

[calitennis127]

Well, if I did it, I was right...

No, Nalbandian was always complimented for being a "smart match player" or a "great tactician" or a "mathematician on the court" from a young age. Just watch his semifinal with Roddick at the US Open to hear how he was described. Monfils has rarely been described as such. Nalbandian's level on the baseline was consistently higher and more substantive than Monfils's has been. To say that they belong to the same category of "all flash, no substance" is a typical Kieran-esque generalization fit for superhero mythology.

Brother, help us all out here: where's the post where I compared Monfils to Daveed? It would make things simpler, because you see, once you excavate it and bring it out into the light, you'll see you're wrongly representing it, and then I'll force you to admit that you're wrongly representing it.

It was on the "Why we should all miss Nalbandian" thread. You said this. I am not misrepresenting anything:

"They were lucky in their next visit, because they caught two players together. Saves time, they reckoned, and they watched Monfils and Nalbandian practice together. They were gobsmacked by the They were stunned into silence, almost. "How the hell did the fat bloke hit a two-hand backhand while eating an icecream? How did the player who looks like a teenage child dressed him, how did he hits a leaping backhand smash - off a dropshot?"

On and on, the thrills and games and brilliance: "how did the fat bloke play a two-hand backhand serve - ace! - without spilling his drink? And while unwrapping a mars bar? How?!"

 

[Kieran]

One of me better ones, I think.

Anyone who missed it live can see the highlights here.


Now, here's where I draw the admission that you're misrepresenting me. I know that you're a good Catholic lad, like myself, so you'll be honest here (although you do have the option of telling a porkie and wiping it off in confession :dodgy: ):

Are you correctly representing what I wrote in that post, by saying that in the post I was actually "comparing Nalbandian to Monfils?"

Is that what I was doing? Take your time now, bro...

 

[calitennis127]

One of me better ones, I think.

Anyone who missed it live can see the highlights here.


Now, here's where I draw the admission that you're misrepresenting me. I know that you're a good Catholic lad, like myself, so you'll be honest here (although you do have the option of telling a porkie and wiping it off in confession :dodgy: ):

Are you correctly representing what I wrote in that post, by saying that in the post I was actually "comparing Nalbandian to Monfils?"

Is that what I was doing? Take your time now, bro...

Absolutely that is what you did:

"They were lucky in their next visit, because they caught two players together. Saves time, they reckoned, and they watched Monfils and Nalbandian practice together. They were gobsmacked by the thrills, thrills and thrills. Trick shots, long clown shoes, tennis balls popping out of a tophat."

You were saying that both Nalbandian and Monfils were more about entertainment than substance - and lumping them into the same category is ridiculous.

 

[Kieran]

One of me better ones, I think.

Anyone who missed it live can see the highlights here.


Now, here's where I draw the admission that you're misrepresenting me. I know that you're a good Catholic lad, like myself, so you'll be honest here (although you do have the option of telling a porkie and wiping it off in confession :dodgy: ):

Are you correctly representing what I wrote in that post, by saying that in the post I was actually "comparing Nalbandian to Monfils?"

Is that what I was doing? Take your time now, bro...

Absolutely that is what you did:

"They were lucky in their next visit, because they caught two players together. Saves time, they reckoned, and they watched Monfils and Nalbandian practice together. They were gobsmacked by the thrills, thrills and thrills. Trick shots, long clown shoes, tennis balls popping out of a tophat."

You were saying that both Nalbandian and Monfils were more about entertainment than substance - and lumping them into the same category is ridiculous.

I was lampooning them buddy, not comparing them. In a joke like this, exaggeration is expected. Though there wasn't much exaggeration in my post, I must admit.

You really need to lighten up and get these jokes - and if you don't find them funny, then don't treat them as if I'm being serious - and then misrepresent them... :nono

 

[brokenshoelace]

Thank god we have Cali to take satire literally and Billie to stand up for the little man. Not sure how I'd survive on these forums without them.

 

[calitennis127]

One of me better ones, I think.

Anyone who missed it live can see the highlights here.


Now, here's where I draw the admission that you're misrepresenting me. I know that you're a good Catholic lad, like myself, so you'll be honest here (although you do have the option of telling a porkie and wiping it off in confession :dodgy: ):

Are you correctly representing what I wrote in that post, by saying that in the post I was actually "comparing Nalbandian to Monfils?"

Is that what I was doing? Take your time now, bro...

Absolutely that is what you did:

"They were lucky in their next visit, because they caught two players together. Saves time, they reckoned, and they watched Monfils and Nalbandian practice together. They were gobsmacked by the thrills, thrills and thrills. Trick shots, long clown shoes, tennis balls popping out of a tophat."

You were saying that both Nalbandian and Monfils were more about entertainment than substance - and lumping them into the same category is ridiculous.

I was lampooning them buddy, not comparing them. In a joke like this, exaggeration is expected. Though there wasn't much exaggeration in my post, I must admit.

You really need to lighten up and get these jokes - and if you don't find them funny, then don't treat them as if I'm being serious - and then misrepresent them... :nono

There is no misrepresentation here. You even said "there wasn't much exaggeration in my post, I must admit". And I have talked to you enough to know that you think Nalbandian and Monfils belong in a non-winner crowd-thriller category, which is true only in a narrow sense that I would expect someone such as yourself to make a big deal out of.

 

[calitennis127]

Thank god we have Cali to take satire literally and Billie to stand up for the little man. Not sure how I'd survive on these forums without them.

Broken, you are so funny. Your sarcastic wit is one in a million. Your original post was "classic". Thanks for typing up something so witty.

Feel better now? I hope your self-esteem just went up on the barometer. I'll even go back and like the original post if you need me to.

 

[calitennis127]

As you all know, everyone checks out the forums, including top players like David Ferrer, who was none too pleased with GSM's accusations. Likewise, various sports channels have sent people to lurk around these parts, and they were deeply upset with our scathing criticism of commentators. So, in an effort to have us put our money where our mouths are, ESPN have asked the fine folks at Tennis Frontier to send their finest armchair commentators to put on a bunch of headsets and call the action for the biggest match of the year. Unable to come to a consensus as to who deserves the honor, the Tennis Frontier wisely opted to make commentary duties a free-for-all where every single poster is eligible.

Kirijax: Hello and welcome to the 2015 Wimbledon championship finals, where defending champion Novak Djokovic takes on 7-time winner Roger Federer.

Tented: What a monumental match this is! A rematch from last year's final, when Federer put on a valiant effort only to suffer a heartbreaking defeat at the hands of Djokovic. However, the Swiss Maestro has looked sensational in his defeat of Andy Murray, and has many feeling optimistic about his chances.

El Dude: Historically, a total of 1 Wimbledon finals were contested between a Swiss and a Serb, with the Serb coming out victorious every time. To better highlight this stat, I have created the following graph which is currently being displayed on your screens. As you can see, history is firmly on Djokovic's side.

Kirijax: As the players are warming up, you really feel this is shaping up to be something really special.

Tented: We are under way! Federer to serve...

Murat: Good start for both. Trading comfortable service holds.

Herios: As you all know, I always root for the underdog. Hence Djokovic being my favorite player since 2011.

Broken_Shoelace: Uhhhhh, Djokovic is the favorite in this match...

Herios: ...No matter. The winner is only warming up the trophy for Milos anyway, before he dominates for years to come.

Kirijax: Federer breaks!

Fiero: GO ROGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! laydownlaughing:hug:eyepop:lolz:

Kirijax: Djokovic breaks back!

Fiero: GO NOVAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lolz::laydownlaughingeyepop

Riotbeard: Phewwwwww...

Riotbeard: Ahem, I meant, good stuff from the Serb.

Haelfix: You feel Roger may have just cost himself the set by not capitalizing. Novak is more consistent from the baseline and when it gets tight late in the set, he'll be the more solid player. He'll also put more pressure on the Federer serve. If this goes to a tie-break, Federer loses the set.

DarthFed: Garbage from Roger... If he loses this match, his 30's would have been a waste.

Anti-Pusher: ...and if he wins, Nadal's entire career would have been a waste.

Kieran: Brother, what does Nadal have to do with this? Rafa will be back. If Roger is reaching finals in his 30's then surely Rafa, who's owned him, can.

Federberg: Must everything turn into a Fedal discussion?

Everyone: ...

Federberg: ...You know this reminds me, I never really felt that Rafa "owned" Roger per se. I don't care much for the head to head anyway, but surely it is heavily influenced by Roger being able to reach clay finals while Rafa wasn't reaching hard court finals. Must Roger be punished for being good enough on clay? I always found this notion absurd.

Broken_Shoelace: Uhhhhh... they played enough times on hard courts.

DarthFed: Which is embarrassing enough for Roger considering he couldn't capitalize. Roger should be ashamed for losing to the dirt grinder outside of his beloved clay.

Cali: Nalbandian would have never allowed that to happen.

Kieran: Darth, buddy, you don't get it do you? It doesn't matter whether they played on clay, hards, grass, hard grass, water, watered hards, quicksand, or the moon. Surfaces don't matter. Rackets don't matter. Tennis balls don't matter. Balls, on the other hand, do. And that has been the difference. Rafa has balls, Roger doesn't.

Federberg: Two pairs of twins say otherwise.

Kieran: Brother, you still don't get it. It ain't about that. It's about...

nehmeth: ...actually it is. Making love to Mirka takes a lot of balls... Cause you know, she's fat.

Moxie: Oh stop, Mirka is a gorgeous woman who's been every bit as instrumental in Federer's success as he was.

Fiero: What success? The ATP players are gutless and have allowed him to win so much!!!!!!!!!!!! :cover:eyepop:lolz:laydownlaughing:cover

Kieran: Brother, we don't normally agree, but finally, someone who gets it.

Federberg: The Federer generation could have consisted of 8 GOATS had it not been for Roger.

nehmeth: There is no GOAT. GOAT implies "all time" and we can't predict the future.

Herios: I can. I've said time and time again that Fedal will fall. 10 years later, they did.

Mastoor: That's 10 years too many. The Nike Dolls have stuck around long enough. It's time for No1e to send them packing for good.

Everyone: Mastoor!?

Clay_Death: Mastoor the Usurper, I shall strike you down like Clay Warrior strikes down a down the line forehand. Your Great Serbian Slayer lovefest has gone too far, old sport.

Everyone: ...

...

Kieran: Anyway, my point is, Federer comes up small under pressure when faced with Rafa's might.

Carol: *Carol35 likes this*

Cali: Nalbandian would have never allowed that to happen.

Front: Neither would WADA.

Tented: Front, that's enough. You've clearly read the ESPN rules, no PED accusations.

Front: And here we go again. Speak up against Nadal and you get censored.

GameSetandMath: I wonder if Verdasco, Lopez, Ferrer, Garcia-Lopez, Batista-Augut, Robredo, Andujar, Almagro and Suarez-Navaro will pull out of the US Open to help Rafa.

Broken_Shoelace; Uhhhh...Suarez-Navaro is a female.

Sergiy Stakhovsky: Allegedly.

Kieran: What is old Wodger up to in this match? I haven't been paying too much attention. If he wins an 8th title he'll surpass Pete...but in numbers only. We know who the real grass GOAT is, even though I don't believe in overall GOAT. I hope he comes up small like he always does against Nadal.

Federberg: Must everything turn into a Fedal conversation?

Kirijax: Unbelievable comeback by Roger to win the second set after saving 7 set points!

Kieran: Wait, two sets went by already? Who won the first set?

Tented: Novak.

Pavlik: *Posts highlight video of sets 1 and 2*

Haelfix: You wonder whether Roger will have anything left in the tank. That had to take a lot out of him.

Kieran: Just like losing to Rafa at the Australian Open in 2009 took a lot of tears out of him.

Cali: Nalbandian would have never allowed that to happen.

Britbox: Yeah, Nalbandian doesn't strike me as the type of guy to cry while watching television.

Murat: Crucial for Roger to hold his serve early in this set. You can sense a let-down.

Kieran: I've been let down since the moment these guys made it to the final.

GSM: You mean more like since the second round :snicker

Front, Federberg, nehmeth, Riotbeard, DarthFed, Herios, Fiero: LMAO!

Front: Thank god for Dustin Brown. Did I ever tell you about that time he won me $17,000 when he beat Nadal in Halle?

Britbox: ...once or twice.

I. Haychew: I hate Pholks with a passion but I don't know Iph I would ever bet money on him losing. Iph I pick him to win he loses, iph I pick him to lose, he wins.

Broken_Shoelace: Do the "ph's" show in audio form?

Krijax: And it's raining!

Cali: Nalbandian would have never allowed that to happen.

Front: Neither would Soderling.

Everyone: ...

Front: I think Soderling will be ready for next year's Wimbledon.

DarthFed: Good, another person to beat Nadal in the first week.

GSM: Ah, the memories of that Roland Garros 2009 match. Glorious.

DarthFed: Biggest upset since the 2008 Wimbledon final.

Britbox: You guys should have saved that earlier Fedal banter for this break.

Tented: Covers are off, roof is closed. We are back.

Kirijax: Novak up a break in the third. Clock is ticking for Roger.

Haelfix: Fed just can't get in Novak's service games and threaten to break.

Riotbeard: Novak one set away from winning a third Wimbledon title.

Britbox: Now that's something Nalbandian never allowed to happen.

Kieran: Amen, brother. David was too afraid to succeed. He couldn't muster up the courage to win a Wimbledon championship, much less three.

Cali: Kieran, this shows how little you understand of the essence of Nalbandian. Nalbandian's problem wasn't that he was "too afraid" as you laughably put it. You really lack the most basic understanding as to the mindset of the most talented sportsman this side of JR Smith.

Broken_Shoelace: Cali, you should make a thread about that. That would be original.

Cali: Broken boy, if I cared about originality, I would have put you on ignore by now...

...and I've already made the thread during the rain delay.

Broken_Shoelace: Man, you're fast.

Kieran: Faster than David chasing a doughnut.

Front: Are doughnuts PED's?

Kirijax: Novak with the break in the third.

Tented: The end is near for Roger.

Herios: I've been saying that for years.

Kirijax: And Novak with the second break to seal the match! The world number 1 with a scintillating performance.

John McEnroe: This could be the greatest display of grass court tennis I have ever seen.

Broken_Shoelace: Who the hell let him in? And really? This is the best display of grass court tennis you've ever seen?

John McEnroe: Calm down jackass, I was just rehearsing what I'll be saying after next year's final.

Tented: Congratulations to Novak and his fans :clap

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:laydownlaughing:laydownlaughing:laydownlaughing:laydownlaughing:laydownlaughing

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was brilliant, what a wit you have!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks buddy for producing this satirical masterpiece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't wait for your next one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Kieran]

There is no misrepresentation here. You even said "there wasn't much exaggeration in my post, I must admit". And I have talked to you enough to know that you think Nalbandian and Monfils belong in a non-winner crowd-thriller category, which is true only in a narrow sense that I would expect someone such as yourself to make a big deal out of.

You know who Spock is? You know who Data is? Am I really having to explain that a smiley after I said "there wasn't much exaggeration in my post, I must admit" actually means I'm keeping up the humour?

And when you take a lampooning of somebody and pass it off as a serious comment, then you're misrepresenting it.

^^ Now you get it...

 

[calitennis127]

Okay, Kieran, I'll just settle for your understanding that a) Nalbandian was scared of the stage in events like Montpellier and Belgrade, and b) Nalbandian and Monfils were basically in that same category of grin-inducing entertainer players.

We're on the same page now.