Rogers Cup 2013 Finals: Serena vs. Sorana

[Moxie]

Congrats to Serena!

 

[Correspondent Kiu]

None of those player's she beat IS number 1 in the world!

And what does this remark have to do with mine? I don't get your point! Some of these players have beat Serena before...
Does that make Sorana's accomplishment here any lesser than making the final? She did beat a bunch of top 10s during the 5 matches she won. Sorana gets Kudos from me for sure and that's not because I like her and she is the top Romanian. It's because of what she did this week.

 

[Calvy]

None of those player's she beat IS number 1 in the world!

And what does this remark have to do with mine? I don't get your point! Some of these players have beat Serena before...
Does that make Sorana's accomplishment here any lesser than making the final? She did beat a bunch of top 10s during the 5 matches she won. Sorana gets Kudos from me for sure and that's not because I like her and she is the top Romanian. It's because of what she did this week.

"It is a fact that Sorana has defeated more quality opponents(aside from Aggie who is struggling in my book) than Serena did, just look at the respective draws"

The point is, none of those opponents is the quality of Serena and never have been, and in fact, not even at the quality of Aggie at the moment, including Li.

You get it now?

 

[Correspondent Kiu]

I disagree with you, Li would have beaten Aggie had she faced her here, Aggie was not that sharp late in the tourny.
It's obvious that none of them are as good as Serena, Serena is #1
What does that have to do with the fact that Sorana had a tougher draw than Serena?

The point is, none of those opponents is the quality of Serena and never have been,

I disagree with this as well, some of these ladies have beaten Serena multiple times, like Jelena.

I still don't get it. Neither do you! Get it?

 

[my sherona]

thats 2 title in a row for ree vs unranked finalist

lucky girl... hope her luck hold on 'till Cincy. I heard Maria decided enough is enough.

 

[Calvy]

I disagree with you, Li would have beaten Aggie had she faced her here, Aggie was not that sharp late in the tourny.
It's obvious that none of them are as good as Serena, Serena is #1
What does that have to do with the fact that Sorana had a tougher draw than Serena?

The point is, none of those opponents is the quality of Serena and never have been,

I disagree with this as well, some of these ladies have beaten Serena multiple times, like Jelena.

I still don't get it. Neither do you! Get it?

Tell me, when was the last time any of those player beat Serena?

Hmmm, Jelena hasn't beaten since 2010, Caroline, April 2012 and Li, 2009 or 08. And if Aggie is 'struggling' as you like to write, then what are those players going through.

And I'm not surprised you don't comprehend, seems confusion is quite prevalent on the boards today.

 

[Calvy]

RE: thats 2 title in a row for ree vs unranked finalist

Um, you do know Sorana is ranked.

 

[RJD11]

Now, now!
We are not allowed to criticize folks because of their votes until after the match!


It is a fact that Sorana has defeated more quality opponents(aside from Aggie who is struggling in my book) than Serena did, just look at the respective draws:
http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/posting/2013/806/MDS.pdf

Sorana has played one more match as well, she has defeated 5 compared to Serena's four.

But never the less, this is Sorana's first final and Serena has won this twice before.
Serena in 2 straight sets is my pick, something along the lines of 6-2 6-3

None of those player's she beat IS number 1 in the world!

And none of them is TMTFTPE

 

[RJD11]

RE: thats 2 title in a row for ree vs unranked finalist

lucky girl... hope her luck hold on 'till Cincy. I heard Maria decided enough is enough.

Luck? :laydownlaughing


And Maria doesn't get to decide when enough is enough

That is up to Serena

 

[Correspondent Kiu]

The point is, none of those opponents is the quality of Serena and never have been...


Tell me, when was the last time any of those player beat Serena?

Hmmm, Jelena hasn't beaten since 2010, Caroline, April 2012 and Li, 2009 or 08. And if Aggie is 'struggling' as you like to write, then what are those players going through.

And I'm not surprised you don't comprehend, seems confusion is quite prevalent on the boards today.

You said they were never as good as Serena, isn't it true that back in the 2000s Jelena was better than Serena? Jelena was #1 when Serena wasn't, right?
You must be confused if you forgot what you said, I highlighted it for you so you remember.

 

[tented]

Horrible first set stats for both, Serena played much better in the second set.

Here is the Champ, she has #54 in the bag!

Congrats to Serena. You're having a spectacular year, even though you think it's only OK.

 

[RJD11]

The point is, none of those opponents is the quality of Serena and never have been...


Tell me, when was the last time any of those player beat Serena?

Hmmm, Jelena hasn't beaten since 2010, Caroline, April 2012 and Li, 2009 or 08. And if Aggie is 'struggling' as you like to write, then what are those players going through.

And I'm not surprised you don't comprehend, seems confusion is quite prevalent on the boards today.

You said they were never as good as Serena, isn't it true that back in the 2000s Jelena was better than Serena? Jelena was #1 when Serena wasn't, right?
You must be confused if you forgot what you said, I highlighted it for you so you remember.

Just cause JJ was No 1 doesn't mean she was better than

Serena. Just once, in 2006, JJ won 2 in a row from Serena

And those 2 wins were sandwiched between Serena wins

Serena only played like 4 events in 2006, clearly not at her best

Many players have been ranked above Serena in years past

But She has been favored by many every slam. Except one I

remember clearly. AO 2007. No one thought She could win

that one. But............

 

[Calvy]

The point is, none of those opponents is the quality of Serena and never have been...


Tell me, when was the last time any of those player beat Serena?

Hmmm, Jelena hasn't beaten since 2010, Caroline, April 2012 and Li, 2009 or 08. And if Aggie is 'struggling' as you like to write, then what are those players going through.

And I'm not surprised you don't comprehend, seems confusion is quite prevalent on the boards today.

You said they were never as good as Serena, isn't it true that back in the 2000s Jelena was better than Serena? Jelena was #1 when Serena wasn't, right?
You must be confused if you forgot what you said, I highlighted it for you so you remember.

" isn't it true that back in the 2000s Jelena was better than Serena"

So, Jelena was better than Serena from 2000-2010?

Jelena was never better than Serena. As for the her being number 1, remember, you lost to Serena in the final of the one slam she got that far, the same year she finished number 1. Jelena finished number 1 because she played over 20 events that year.

Heck, by your definition, both Caroline and Dinara were better than Serena at some point.

 

[Correspondent Kiu]

The point is, none of those opponents is the quality of Serena and never have been...


Tell me, when was the last time any of those player beat Serena?


Hmmm, Jelena hasn't beaten since 2010, Caroline, April 2012 and Li, 2009 or 08. And if Aggie is 'struggling' as you like to write, then what are those players going through.

And I'm not surprised you don't comprehend, seems confusion is quite prevalent on the boards today.

You said they were never as good as Serena, isn't it true that back in the 2000s Jelena was better than Serena? Jelena was #1 when Serena wasn't, right?
You must be confused if you forgot what you said, I highlighted it for you so you remember.

" isn't it true that back in the 2000s Jelena was better than Serena"

So, Jelena was better than Serena from 2000-2010?

Jelena was never better than Serena. As for the her being number 1, remember, you lost to Serena in the final of the one slam she got that far, the same year she finished number 1. Jelena finished number 1 because she played over 20 events that year.

Heck, by your definition, both Caroline and Dinara were better than Serena at some point.

I didn't expect any more than above from a clear Serena fan, it's obvious when JJ was #1 and Serena was not, JJ was better, at least the rankings said so but not Serena fans...
JJ was never as good right?
It's not my definition Calvy, it is the ranking that said so!


BTW, I said back in the 2000s, I didn't say the whole decade, did I?

I am done with this conversation. You all can have the last word.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Congrats to Serena!!! too good and she wasnt even playing her best tennis.

 

[tossip]

Sorana is indeed a lovely girl I nearly teared up when she was giving her speech...hopefully this past week will help her get better and better.

 

[Calvy]

The point is, none of those opponents is the quality of Serena and never have been...


Tell me, when was the last time any of those player beat Serena?


Hmmm, Jelena hasn't beaten since 2010, Caroline, April 2012 and Li, 2009 or 08. And if Aggie is 'struggling' as you like to write, then what are those players going through.

And I'm not surprised you don't comprehend, seems confusion is quite prevalent on the boards today.

You said they were never as good as Serena, isn't it true that back in the 2000s Jelena was better than Serena? Jelena was #1 when Serena wasn't, right?
You must be confused if you forgot what you said, I highlighted it for you so you remember.

" isn't it true that back in the 2000s Jelena was better than Serena"

So, Jelena was better than Serena from 2000-2010?

Jelena was never better than Serena. As for the her being number 1, remember, you lost to Serena in the final of the one slam she got that far, the same year she finished number 1. Jelena finished number 1 because she played over 20 events that year.

Heck, by your definition, both Caroline and Dinara were better than Serena at some point.

I didn't expect any more than above from a clear Serena fan, it's obvious when JJ was #1 and Serena was not, JJ was better, at least the rankings said so but not Serena fans...
JJ was never as good right?
It's not my definition Calvy, it is the ranking that said so!


BTW, I said back in the 2000s, I didn't say the whole decade, did I?

I am done with this conversation. You all can have the last word.

Just for your education, Serena became number 1 in 2008 after beating Jelena in the finals of the US Open, Jelena then became the number 1 in October or Novemeber later that season, and not by much, ending the year in the top spot. At the Aussie Open in 2009, which Serena won, she took back the number 1 spot.

And, for the year 2008, they both finished with four tournament wins, difference is, Serena won a slam and made another slam final.

As you can see, there was never a significant point differientual between the two in ranking at the end of the year.

"BTW, I said back in the 2000s, I didn't say the whole decade, did I?"

And what do the 2000's consist of?

 

[djmm]

I see some believe in this new crappyazze point system. It's results: Point chasers who've never won a slam (JJ, Caro, Dinara). NO, they are not as good as Serena .. no way, no how and they know it!!

Congrats to Serena on her 54th career title :clap

On to Cincy ...