Rankings with 2012 Wimbledon points off (re: Federer)

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RE: Rankings with 2012 Wimbledon points off (Federer)

ricardo said:
herios said:
ricardo said:
i don't know why dude is so fixated with Fed's ranking, like it comes as a surprise. He has not put himself in a position to maximize his ranking points, it's simply not his intention; not for a guy who's done it long enough and has decided to schedule 1/3 less events this year.

Where do you get your numbers from? Last year by this date he played in 10 events, this year in 8. He skipped only 2: Doha and Miami.
1. Doha mainly because his multi-year contract expired and most likely he was not going to commit for a bulk of another few years, which is understandable at his age.
2. Miami he skipped indeed, but he had an early exit a year ago there, when he lost to Roddick, thus his ranking points didn't take a significant hit.

The fact that he is in this vulnerable situation right now is because he played poorly, reflected by his YTD ranking, which is outside of the top 5.


Mog said:
Didi said:
Ricardo, you are missing the point. Neither El Dude nor anbyody else are claiming the rankings to be a huge goal for Federer in the future. He has nothing left to prove in terms of being #1. He regained the top spot as a 30+ year old when Djokovic and Nadal were in their primes. He answered all questions and done it all. But that's not the point. We all just wonder how many slams he still has left in the tank. For him in order to win another slam it's important he stays inside the top 4. The current freak occurence and back luck for him in Wimbledon with Nadal as #5 put aside as an exception to the rule, do you seriously see him winning a major in the future with having to go through Nadal, Murray and Djokovic in a row within just a couple of days?

Since he isn't retiring anytime soon, it's a legit point to discuss. I don't see Roger being content with just playing the role of Berdych or Tsonga in majors for the future. We all know how incredibly hard it is to have a legit shot at majors when you are seeded outside of the Big 4. Of course theoretically he could get Ferrer in the QFs but let's better not count on that. Personally I don't see Roger retiring before Rio 2016 but if he does, it's due to not having a shot at slams anymore which goes hand in hand with staying inside the very top and thus avoiding to have to go through 3 of the big 4 just to win a slam. It's imperative and crucial with regards to how long he's going to stick around.

Excellent post Did I. Couldn't be said better.
I think Roger has at least one Slam in him if not two. And it will not make easy for him to win a slam going through other big three.
There is a possibility that he might be out of four ranking as he has to defend lot more points.

I second it. Well put Didi.



Last year he played 20 and this year he scheduled 14, which is 30% off and it is about 1/3. You think i make up some numbers? remember i am not some obsessed fan of a particular player.

Didi must have missed something, i already said the only relevance would be his seeding position, regarding his ranking. Of course you are all so smart to have pointed that out, should i say 'thanks'?



you do make up some numbers..:snigger

Federer played 17 tourneys last year (18 if including stetched out davis cup)...not 20.
 

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RE: Rankings with 2012 Wimbledon points off (Federer)

tented said:
Moxie629 said:
I know we're talking about Federer here, but it should be noted what Murray is up against in the next couple of months, too: he's defending the final at Wimbledon, he loses 750 pts from the Olympics, and he's defending the W at USO. A couple of missteps and he could sink rather quickly.

Excellent point. It will be an exciting second half of the year, beginning with Wimbledon. Theoretically, Roger could walk away from there ranked anywhere from No. 2 to No. 6 (maybe even 7?).

Fed could fall to no. 6 if Berdych or Del Potro won the title, but not to no. 7 because if even he did lose to Hanescu tomorrow and Delpo won Wimbledon, Berdych can't pass Federer even by reaching the final (which he can't do anyway because Delpo is in his half).