Rafael Nadal - Injury/Schedule update!

[masterclass]

No worries. Here is the word from Uncle Toni and the Nadal doctors according to Italian Eurosport/Yahoo.

"After back problems that have beset with Wawrinka lost in the final of the Australian Open, Rafael Nadal will be allowed a few days off. "The doctor has diagnosed a muscle stiffening and a few days of rest will be enough - said the uncle, Toni Nadal - Yesterday began the final affected by the pain that he had experienced during the week, although to a much lesser degree. During the second game of the second set felt a pang. " The number 1 in the world ranking will be back 'home in Majorca, and then fly to Argentina to play in the tournament in Buenos Aires."

So there it is folks, Uncle Toni reveals all. Now he says the back problem started during the slam's second week. I imagine it had to be the Dimitrov match when he was playing poorly, but that's just speculation on my part. Good to see the reports from his camp are getting out.

So after a few days rest and a trip to Mallorca Rafa will fly to South America to play two weeks from today. Good to hear the injury was relatively mild and that it won't affect his schedule.

Respectfully,
masterclass

 

[Fiero425]

No worries. Here is the word from Uncle Toni and the Nadal doctors according to Italian Eurosport/Yahoo.

"After back problems that have beset with Wawrinka lost in the final of the Australian Open, Rafael Nadal will be allowed a few days off. "The doctor has diagnosed a muscle stiffening and a few days of rest will be enough - said the uncle, Toni Nadal - Yesterday began the final affected by the pain that he had experienced during the week, although to a much lesser degree. During the second game of the second set felt a pang. " The number 1 in the world ranking will be back 'home in Majorca, and then fly to Argentina to play in the tournament in Buenos Aires."

So there it is folks, Uncle Toni reveals all. Now he says the back problem started during the slam's second week. I imagine it had to be the Dimitrov match when he was playing poorly, but that's just speculation on my part. Good to see the reports from his camp are getting out.

So after a few days rest and a trip to Mallorca Rafa will fly to South America to play two weeks from today. Good to hear the injury was relatively mild and that it won't affect his schedule.

Respectfully,
masterclass

Maybe they'll work it back to the WTF last year during his final loss to Nole in nov.! :nono It's just sad and pathetic! It never stops! His only losses occur if he's injured and has nothing to do with his opponent! Sounds more like a Williams' sister; "he didn't beat me, I beat myself!" :violins: :sleepy: :gross: :nono

 

[tented]

No worries. Here is the word from Uncle Toni and the Nadal doctors according to Italian Eurosport/Yahoo.

"After back problems that have beset with Wawrinka lost in the final of the Australian Open, Rafael Nadal will be allowed a few days off. "The doctor has diagnosed a muscle stiffening and a few days of rest will be enough - said the uncle, Toni Nadal - Yesterday began the final affected by the pain that he had experienced during the week, although to a much lesser degree. During the second game of the second set felt a pang. " The number 1 in the world ranking will be back 'home in Majorca, and then fly to Argentina to play in the tournament in Buenos Aires."

So there it is folks, Uncle Toni reveals all. Now he says the back problem started during the slam's second week. I imagine it had to be the Dimitrov match when he was playing poorly, but that's just speculation on my part. Good to see the reports from his camp are getting out.

So after a few days rest and a trip to Mallorca Rafa will fly to South America to play two weeks from today. Good to hear the injury was relatively mild and that it won't affect his schedule.

Respectfully,
masterclass

Maybe they'll work it back to the WTF last year during his final loss to Nole in nov.! :nono It's just sad and pathetic! It never stops! His only losses occur if he's injured and has nothing to do with his opponent! Sounds more like a Williams' sister; "he didn't beat me, I beat myself!" :violins: :sleepy: :gross: :nono

Your relentless pursuit of an anti-Nadal/anti-Williams sisters agenda is becoming incredibly tiresome. Not to mention you obviously STILL haven't watched the match since you're continuing to make accusations that he wasn't hurt. But, hey, why let your ignorance get in the way of a juicy bitch session, right?

 

[britbox]

No worries. Here is the word from Uncle Toni and the Nadal doctors according to Italian Eurosport/Yahoo.

"After back problems that have beset with Wawrinka lost in the final of the Australian Open, Rafael Nadal will be allowed a few days off. "The doctor has diagnosed a muscle stiffening and a few days of rest will be enough - said the uncle, Toni Nadal - Yesterday began the final affected by the pain that he had experienced during the week, although to a much lesser degree. During the second game of the second set felt a pang. " The number 1 in the world ranking will be back 'home in Majorca, and then fly to Argentina to play in the tournament in Buenos Aires."

So there it is folks, Uncle Toni reveals all. Now he says the back problem started during the slam's second week. I imagine it had to be the Dimitrov match when he was playing poorly, but that's just speculation on my part. Good to see the reports from his camp are getting out.

So after a few days rest and a trip to Mallorca Rafa will fly to South America to play two weeks from today. Good to hear the injury was relatively mild and that it won't affect his schedule.

Respectfully,
masterclass

He'd probably be wiser skipping Buenos Aires altogether.

 

[masterclass]

He probably feels he needs the one 250 tournament on clay after all this hard court play before going to the more competitive Rio 500 tournament the following week. But if any hint of his back problem resurfaces I can see him pulling out of Buenos Aires.

Respectfully,
masterclass

 

[Moxie]

He probably feels he needs the one 250 tournament on clay after all this hard court play before going to the more competitive Rio 500 tournament the following week. But if any hint of his back problem resurfaces I can see him pulling out of Buenos Aires.

Respectfully,
masterclass

I hope so. I was kind of surprised to see him thinking of BA. I know he's going to Rio, but it won't be THAT competitive for him there. I want him to add Miami this year, after IW, and it won't be smart to play too much before.

 

[StantheMan]

We will know when Rafa has recovered when he finally wins his next tournament.

 

[Front242]

No worries. Here is the word from Uncle Toni and the Nadal doctors according to Italian Eurosport/Yahoo.

"After back problems that have beset with Wawrinka lost in the final of the Australian Open, Rafael Nadal will be allowed a few days off. "The doctor has diagnosed a muscle stiffening and a few days of rest will be enough - said the uncle, Toni Nadal - Yesterday began the final affected by the pain that he had experienced during the week, although to a much lesser degree. During the second game of the second set felt a pang. " The number 1 in the world ranking will be back 'home in Majorca, and then fly to Argentina to play in the tournament in Buenos Aires."

So there it is folks, Uncle Toni reveals all. Now he says the back problem started during the slam's second week. I imagine it had to be the Dimitrov match when he was playing poorly, but that's just speculation on my part. Good to see the reports from his camp are getting out.

So after a few days rest and a trip to Mallorca Rafa will fly to South America to play two weeks from today. Good to hear the injury was relatively mild and that it won't affect his schedule.

Respectfully,
masterclass

One thing I will say here is that I don't like how the Nadal camp (Toni in particular) keep changing their story and it's the main reason for so much lack of respect from fans of other players. We were told initially the problem happened in the warm up for the final, though I must say nothing whatsoever appeared wrong with him till the 2-0 service game in set 2. They/Toni should just stick to the one story as it does nothing but make them look extremely bad when they keep changing stories.

Re the last line bolded above...it's not good the reports are getting out seeing as the story has already been changed drastically. It was actually Rafa himself who said in his presser it happened in the warm up so why Toni now changed the story is anyone's guess. But it's poor from them and they should know better and know they're gonna get a lot of flak for not sticking to what was originally said.

First line from Rafa. Since the beginning from the warm up...now please tell me why Toni feels the need to lie and change the story?

[video=dailymotion]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ac1ta_sad-presser_sport[/video]

 

[Moxie]

^ Front, as a Fed man, you should be a little bit more generous about the notion of when a back is a problem, and when it's normal strain. No reason to call Toni a 'liar.' Rafa, and all athletes, admit to a certain amount of constant pain and strain. When is the exact moment when you decide it's an issue, and not simply the cost of being a professional athlete? Roger has complained about his constant back strain, even when we can't always see the evidence. And yet we believe it. I know you've been very fair to Rafa, throughout the last few days. There's no reason to stop now. Do you think Toni is making an excuse? I don't see that it takes away from the Wawrinka win.

 

[Front242]

^ Front, as a Fed man, you should be a little bit more generous about the notion of when a back is a problem, and when it's normal strain. No reason to call Toni a 'liar.' Rafa, and all athletes, admit to a certain amount of constant pain and strain. When is the exact moment when you decide it's an issue, and not simply the cost of being a professional athlete? Roger has complained about his constant back strain, even when we can't always see the evidence. And yet we believe it. I know you've been very fair to Rafa, throughout the last few days. There's no reason to stop now. Do you think Toni is making an excuse? I don't see that it takes away from the Wawrinka win.

Moxie, I seriously don't see how you can call it anything else, sorry. It COMPLETELY contradicts Rafa's presser which I posted and you don't need to listen too hard as it's the first line where he says it happened during the warm up. Sorry, but Toni is lying and completely changed the story and there's nothing more to it and his words can't be defended since they are completely different from what Rafa said. Roger has had back pain for years and when have you ever heard anything from Rafa? I'll tell you. Never. Except the start of the warm up in the first line of his presser.

You couldn't be anything but fair to Rafa as it was plain as day obvious he couldn't move properly and was serving very slowly but equally so it's plain as day obvious Toni has completely changed this story and said the back pain started at a completely different time than Rafa himself claims. This has nothing to do with Rafa who can be heard saying it started in the warm up but his uncle is distorting the story here and it's not cool. And no I don't think it takes away from Stan's win as nothing will change my mind on that but he has completely changed his story. And yes, maybe that's what Toni is trying to do here. Discredit the win, namely the stellar first set and 2-0 2nd set from Stan.

Toni is a great coach and no doubt about that but he's made some very poor comments at times. My issue here is with Toni not Rafa, who said it started in the warm up and graciously finished the match. His uncle on the other hand :nono

 

[Moxie]

But you miss my point as to when is the time that a niggle starts? What would be the benefit of Toni saying it may have started earlier? Aches and pains are constant. Who knows when one turns into an issue? I'm just saying, why do you need to call Toni out as a lair, except to denigrate him? Isn't it just possible that any top player has pains in his knees, his fingers, his feet, his hamstrings and his back, most of the time? If Rafa identifies the problem from the warm-up, and Toni says it was there from before, does that actually make him a liar? Or was he just looking back on the hundreds of aches, and seeing that it was there? I don't mind if you're skeptical, but no reason to call him and out-and-out liar. That's a bit harsh.

 

[Front242]

But you miss my point as to when is the time that a niggle starts? What would be the benefit of Toni saying it may have started earlier? Aches and pains are constant. Who knows when one turns into an issue? I'm just saying, why do you need to call Toni out as a lair, except to denigrate him? Isn't it just possible that any top player has pains in his knees, his fingers, his feet, his hamstrings and his back, most of the time? If Rafa identifies the problem from the warm-up, and Toni says it was there from before, does that actually make him a liar? Or was he just looking back on the hundreds of aches, and seeing that it was there? I don't mind if you're skeptical, but no reason to call him and out-and-out liar. That's a bit harsh.

I just explained why he's lying/lied already. Rafa is the guy playing the damn matches not Toni and Rafa was honest enough to tell us it happened in the warm up. His uncle is a liar and has lied and changed the story and there is nothing harsh about it. You have Toni's comment and Rafa's presser right in front of you. What more is there to it, sorry. Of course they all have some aches and pains but Rafa himself said it started during the warm up. Toni is a L-I-A-R!

Edit: and re your bolded part above. That's simple. To discredit Stan's first set and up to 2-0 in the 2nd set even more and even Dimitrov and Nishikori's decent performances. Once Rafa was on court he was supposedly 100% to everyone including Toni according to Rafa since Rafa himself said he only injured himself during the warm up. So since Rafa said he only hurt his back in the warm up that means Toni would've assumed his nephew was 100% prior to the match. Now Toni's account is completely different and therefore a blatant lie. Either that or he must think we're all stupid and none of us has heard Rafa's presser where he states in the first line that he felt it during the warm up. Liar or senile or just hopes we're all stupid.

Either way, sorry but I can't for the life of me see how you can defend the actions of a coach who releases a completely different story than his nephew who has already released his statement to the press and says it happened that day, in the warm up, before the final started. I'll go with Rafa's statement since it was he who played the match and released the statement first. Coming from a background of insurance I can tell you it's usually mandatory to only accept the first notification of loss. You can't then change the loss/story/account of the situation here as people can't backtrack and change the facts they first told the press. It's basically perjury that Toni has committed here.

 

[Moxie]

But Rafa beat Dimitrov and Nishikori. I don't see how calling a back injury out earlier mitigates those wins. There's no profit in it. Nadal won them.

Let's not pretend you don't have an agenda against Nadal. And casting aspersions on Toni serves it. To take Toni's statements to the point of lying or "perjury" is beyond the pale. You discount what I've said before: when is the moment when a niggle becomes an injury? And when did anyone discount Wawrinka's outright victory?

Yes, Rafa said he felt it in the warm-up, but why does Toni profit from saying it may have been earlier? These things are incremental, and as a fan of Roger you should know that. I'm only asking you to be fair and not alarmist, or factional. Nadal is a great player, but their bodies can only do what they do. I think you're wrong to assume that either Rafa or his team profits from the notion that the back was a problem either before the SF, before the warm-up, or in the second set. He won all of his matches leading to the final. And he managed a decent show against a Wawrinka that was playing the best tennis, on the day. And the best man won. So what does it matter what Toni said?

 

[Front242]

But Rafa beat Dimitrov and Nishikori. I don't see how calling a back injury out earlier mitigates those wins. There's no profit in it. Nadal won them.

Let's not pretend you don't have an agenda against Nadal. And casting aspersions on Toni serves it. To take Toni's statements to the point of lying or "perjury" is beyond the pale. You discount what I've said before: when is the moment when a niggle becomes an injury? And when did anyone discount Wawrinka's outright victory?

Yes, Rafa said he felt it in the warm-up, but why does Toni profit from saying it may have been earlier? These things are incremental, and as a fan of Roger you should know that. I'm only asking you to be fair and not alarmist, or factional. Nadal is a great player, but their bodies can only do what they do. I think you're wrong to assume that either Rafa or his team profits from the notion that the back was a problem either before the SF, before the warm-up, or in the second set. He won all of his matches leading to the final. And he managed a decent show against a Wawrinka that was playing the best tennis, on the day. And the best man won. So what does it matter what Toni said?

Yeah and let's not pretend I said Rafa was injured as he clearly was but that doesn't stop the fact that Toni has completely distorted the story here. And let's also not pretend even I can admit Federer has said some dumb things in the past (he has and I've called him out on them) but even when Toni says something blatantly different from what Rafa says you still defend him. Sorry but that's unreal. We all know he won those matches prior to the final but we were told all that was wrong with Rafa was a blister and it's as if Toni's now trying to say Rafa had tough matches against Nishikori and Dimitrov because of a back issue as well as a blister. Basically saying no way Kei plays my nephew this tough or no way Dimitrov wins a set and is one blown forehand away from 2 sets to 0 lead unless Rafa has a back issue. Rafa has said nothing to that end and says it happened on the day of the final in the warm up.

It's absolutely not harsh to call Toni's comments perjury, it's exactly what it is, sorry. He completely contradicted Rafa's presser and changed the whole timing of the injury. Anyway, I'm done here as clearly you'll never find fault with Toni but I'm sure a lot of people can see exactly what I'm saying is true and Toni has totally changed the story and it's not one bit cool. There was no mention of any niggle by anyone prior to the match. Rafa is the one playing and said the niggle/tweak to his back occurred in the warm up and then it got worse in the match at 2-0 2nd set. Toni changed Rafa's whole story and is a joke.

 

[I.Haychew]

Maybe Toni is telling the truth and Folks is the one who's the Pinocchio.

 

[Moxie]

Front, I'm merely trying to say it's not as nefarious as you claim. Everyone's "Irish" is up, and remember that people get asked things in pressers.

 

[Front242]

Maybe Toni is telling the truth and Folks is the one who's the Pinocchio.

As I said earlier, you can only take the first notification of how things occurred in these instances and backtracking and changing the whole story is totally uncool and makes you seem like a distasteful individual who bends the truth. Rafa gave the account of how it entailed first and I'll go with his and so should everyone else since he's the one who played the match.

 

[Front242]

Front, I'm merely trying to say it's not as nefarious as you claim. Everyone's "Irish" is up, and remember that people get asked things in pressers.

In that case they shouldn't lie and I don't believe Rafa did. I believe Toni did.

 

[I.Haychew]

I don't believe either one of 'em. I think they're both liars. I think Folks was injured before the tournament even began.
Just kidding!

 

[Fiero425]

Front, I'm merely trying to say it's not as nefarious as you claim. Everyone's "Irish" is up, and remember that people get asked things in pressers.

In that case they shouldn't lie and I don't believe Rafa did. I believe Toni did.

At least! My detractors act as if I'm the only one that feels like that! Selective interpretations I guess! :violins: :gross: :nono