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tented said:
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As far as i see just couple of weeks with Becker were sufficient for Nole to be sick of tennis, so he is skiing right now far away from any playable tennis courts (those that he used as a child in the ski resort were devastated in the nato bombardments in 1999).

I think he will take a long break and will come back only for the clay season.

I doubt it. I think he'll be back for the Indian Wells/Miami Masters, which are not only mandatory events, but a chance at picking up 2,000 points.

You mean those two tournaments that he even didn't play well last year when he was whole lot fresher after winning AO.

If he is really burned out as they say he is, he better skips IW and Miami and takes more rest followed by practice for the clay season.
 

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Denisovich said:
tented said:
Mastoor said:
As far as i see just couple of weeks with Becker were sufficient for Nole to be sick of tennis, so he is skiing right now far away from any playable tennis courts (those that he used as a child in the ski resort were devastated in the nato bombardments in 1999).

I think he will take a long break and will come back only for the clay season.

I doubt it. I think he'll be back for the Indian Wells/Miami Masters, which are not only mandatory events, but a chance at picking up 2,000 points.

Indian Wells is more than a month ahead.

Right, and the clay season, which Mastoor thinks will be/should be the goal, is even further away. What's your point?
 

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Denisovich said:
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Tomas Berdych, David Ferrer and many others did better than the gramps too. This is supposed to be Nole's salad days and he won't be judged on the YEC and MS events.

This world is built on ambition and greed. I'd be shocked if Nole is feeling good about his results the last year. If he is satisfied then that would explain the underachieving...

He won a Slam, the WTF and reached two Grand Slam finals. Your standard is Fed in the 2005-2007 period which by all means is otherworldly. Rafa, the other GOAT contender, has only had a couple of years where he has won multiple slams.

Lets see how 2014 unfolds. I have good hopes he'll do well.

No that is not the standard, but as I mentioned he currently holds no slams. It's kind of bizarre that you see this as good results based on losing a couple GS finals and winning YEC. If I have high standards for what constitutes a great year you appear to have none.

There is too much wrong with your post to really bother. Reread the results I listed. Sure the losses against Rafa were disappointing, but I don't like this trashtalking of Nole that's going on here.

It's not trashtalking Nole to say he hasn't done great since winning the AO last year. I honestly don't see how anyone could say otherwise unless they are enamored by someone with 6 slams being reduced to only winning YEC and a few MS events. You just disagree and that's fine.
 

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I expect and root for Novak to win FO this year.

Nadal won for 4 years since 2005 and then had a hick up in 2009.

Now he has won for 4 years since 2010 and so it is time for a hick-up.

The only question probably is who will exploit Nadal's hick-up in FO.
Most probably, Novak.
 

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09 was the ultimate hiccup considering how much of an overwhelming favorite he was to beat everyone on clay. Rafa is not as good on clay as before yet he is still a huge favorite there over everyone except Djokovic.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
I expect and root for Novak to win FO this year.

Nadal won for 4 years since 2005 and then had a hick up in 2009.

Now he has won for 4 years since 2010 and so it is time for a hick-up.

The only question probably is who will exploit Nadal's hick-up in FO.
Most probably, Novak.

GSM, that's kind of just living by superstition. ;)

As to Darth, he holds Roger to a rigorous standard, and is only holding Nole to the same one. That's not trashing him. (Not saying you said that, GSM, just too lazy to make 2 posts.) But I get the point of his fans and others that it's hard to say that 2013 was not fine, except by the loftiest of standards. As a Nadal fan, his 2011 wasn't so poor at all, except v. Djokovic, and he's managed better ones, since. Novak will all but surely bound back, as well.
 

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Moxie629 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
I expect and root for Novak to win FO this year.

Nadal won for 4 years since 2005 and then had a hick up in 2009.

Now he has won for 4 years since 2010 and so it is time for a hick-up.

The only question probably is who will exploit Nadal's hick-up in FO.
Most probably, Novak.

GSM, that's kind of just living by superstition. ;)

Normally, I would agree that this kind of superstitious predictions are pointless and
does not show any tennis intelleigence and won't see the the light of day. But, this kind
of superstitious predictions work perfectly when made against someone who aligns
his water bottles. ;)
 

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DarthFed said:
09 was the ultimate hiccup considering how much of an overwhelming favorite he was to beat everyone on clay. Rafa is not as good on clay as before yet he is still a huge favorite there over everyone except Djokovic.

I do agree with you that Nadal is favorite at Rolland Garos against everyone except for
Novak at this time. In 2011, it looked as though Novak might take it. But, unfortunately
Roger took him out and thus Nadal won. Nobody bothered to say that Nadal should send
flowers to Roger for taking Novak out.

I hope no one takes Novak out this year. If someone does, I am willing to cancel
the final and give the trophy to a 100% fit Nadal.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
Moxie629 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
I expect and root for Novak to win FO this year.

Nadal won for 4 years since 2005 and then had a hick up in 2009.

Now he has won for 4 years since 2010 and so it is time for a hick-up.

The only question probably is who will exploit Nadal's hick-up in FO.
Most probably, Novak.

GSM, that's kind of just living by superstition. ;)

Normally, I would agree that this kind of superstitious predictions are pointless and
does not show any tennis intelleigence and won't see the the light of day. But, this kind
of superstitious predictions work perfectly when made against someone who aligns
his water bottles. ;)

:laydownlaughing Good one. Though the aligning of water bottles is not superstition. Nadal insists he uses all of his odd habits to calm him, and to organize his thoughts. I think that's plausible. The players are very alone out there. And since Nadal is by basically everyone's estimation the mentally toughest out there, if it ain't broke...
 

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DarthFed said:
Denisovich said:
DarthFed said:
Denisovich said:
DarthFed said:
Tomas Berdych, David Ferrer and many others did better than the gramps too. This is supposed to be Nole's salad days and he won't be judged on the YEC and MS events.

This world is built on ambition and greed. I'd be shocked if Nole is feeling good about his results the last year. If he is satisfied then that would explain the underachieving...

He won a Slam, the WTF and reached two Grand Slam finals. Your standard is Fed in the 2005-2007 period which by all means is otherworldly. Rafa, the other GOAT contender, has only had a couple of years where he has won multiple slams.

Lets see how 2014 unfolds. I have good hopes he'll do well.

No that is not the standard, but as I mentioned he currently holds no slams. It's kind of bizarre that you see this as good results based on losing a couple GS finals and winning YEC. If I have high standards for what constitutes a great year you appear to have none.

There is too much wrong with your post to really bother. Reread the results I listed. Sure the losses against Rafa were disappointing, but I don't like this trashtalking of Nole that's going on here.

It's not trashtalking Nole to say he hasn't done great since winning the AO last year. I honestly don't see how anyone could say otherwise unless they are enamored by someone with 6 slams being reduced to only winning YEC and a few MS events. You just disagree and that's fine.

He won the AO last year.
 

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Denisovich said:
DarthFed said:
Denisovich said:
DarthFed said:
Denisovich said:
He won a Slam, the WTF and reached two Grand Slam finals. Your standard is Fed in the 2005-2007 period which by all means is otherworldly. Rafa, the other GOAT contender, has only had a couple of years where he has won multiple slams.

Lets see how 2014 unfolds. I have good hopes he'll do well.

No that is not the standard, but as I mentioned he currently holds no slams. It's kind of bizarre that you see this as good results based on losing a couple GS finals and winning YEC. If I have high standards for what constitutes a great year you appear to have none.

There is too much wrong with your post to really bother. Reread the results I listed. Sure the losses against Rafa were disappointing, but I don't like this trashtalking of Nole that's going on here.

It's not trashtalking Nole to say he hasn't done great since winning the AO last year. I honestly don't see how anyone could say otherwise unless they are enamored by someone with 6 slams being reduced to only winning YEC and a few MS events. You just disagree and that's fine.

He won the AO last year.

That's why I said "since" winning the AO. He might go onto have a good/great 2014 but the fact of the matter is he has not done well for 12 months now including 0 for 4 in majors. I doubt anyone would have imagined he'd be without a slam. Most had him as a huge favorite at AO just now.
 

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From February of 2012 to January of 2014 Novak has won 1 Slam; the rest, he has contended and come up short mostly in the finals, and sometimes in the semis to the eventual champion. He's remained at or near the top, but not really punching through.

(To me), while his forehand has improved it seems to have come at the expense of his backhand. He still hits the jaw-dropping winners, but overall the shot has become loopier, too often falling way short of the baseline. The down the line backhands which used to be consistently present seem increasingly sporadic. Again this is just my opinion but the backhand which was his bedrock shot has lost a lot of sting and Novak's lost full confidence in it.

Mentally, in the big moments he's been chunking it while it's been the other guys who have been punching through. We are talking a few key points in each match. It seems silly to quibble over, but they are the difference between whether one holds the cup or the plate.

His team has made some poor choices in who they select to bring on board. Todd Martin? Wojtek Fibak? Now Becker? Objectively the first one lost him a year and a half, the 2nd one did nothing, and the third? All he seems to have brought thus far is one more ugly face to the box.

My prediction for this year on the Nolecoaster - he will either hover near the top and lose in the semis and finals of slams, or he will make some real changes to position himself to win again and not just make it to the dance. The way things are now it seems he is stuck hovering, and might even drop a little.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
DarthFed said:
09 was the ultimate hiccup considering how much of an overwhelming favorite he was to beat everyone on clay. Rafa is not as good on clay as before yet he is still a huge favorite there over everyone except Djokovic.

I do agree with you that Nadal is favorite at Rolland Garos against everyone except for
Novak at this time.

Why wouldn't he be the favorite against Novak?
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
GameSetAndMath said:
DarthFed said:
09 was the ultimate hiccup considering how much of an overwhelming favorite he was to beat everyone on clay. Rafa is not as good on clay as before yet he is still a huge favorite there over everyone except Djokovic.

I do agree with you that Nadal is favorite at Rolland Garos against everyone except for
Novak at this time.

Why wouldn't he be the favorite against Novak?

Wrong wordings on my part. Rafa would indeed be the favorite against Novak also.
What I meant is that Rafa would not be a heavy favorite against Novak (unlike
against everyone else in the field). It looks like only Novak has some chance
of dethroning Nadal. Novak has beaten Rafa now in all three clay masters,
Monte Carlo, Rome and Madrid. Rolland Garros is the last frontier to be conquered
and it is not unreasonable to think he can get it done this year.
 

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nehmeth said:
His team has made some poor choices in who they select to bring on board. Todd Martin? Wojtek Fibak? Now Becker? Objectively the first one lost him a year and a half, the 2nd one did nothing, and the third? All he seems to have brought thus far is one more ugly face to the box.

My prediction for this year on the Nolecoaster - he will either hover near the top and lose in the semis and finals of slams, or he will make some real changes to position himself to win again and not just make it to the dance. The way things are now it seems he is stuck hovering, and might even drop a little.

Looks like the evolution of man :snigger

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Plus, Novak might not be getting great results since hiring him, but Jelena clearly likes him. Probably another reason to fire him given his track record with the ladies :cool:

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GameSetAndMath said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
GameSetAndMath said:
DarthFed said:
09 was the ultimate hiccup considering how much of an overwhelming favorite he was to beat everyone on clay. Rafa is not as good on clay as before yet he is still a huge favorite there over everyone except Djokovic.

I do agree with you that Nadal is favorite at Rolland Garos against everyone except for
Novak at this time.

Why wouldn't he be the favorite against Novak?

Wrong wordings on my part. Rafa would indeed be the favorite against Novak also.
What I meant is that Rafa would not be a heavy favorite against Novak (unlike
against everyone else in the field). It looks like only Novak has some chance
of dethroning Nadal. Novak has beaten Rafa now in all three clay masters,
Monte Carlo, Rome and Madrid. Rolland Garros is the last frontier to be conquered
and it is not unreasonable to think he can get it done this year.

I think Novak will win the FO, whether this year or another, I'm not sure. I'll have to wait and see what he plays like in the clay season, but I think it's a safe bet he'll win it eventually, and I do think he'll beat Nadal there at some point.
 

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All the years of fooling around have gotten to poor Becker.

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