Nadal to get "protected" seeding at RG?

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herios said:
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Seconded. Glad you found us, MartyB!

Since I was the OP on this thread, I want to point out that I only posted the news. I'm not necessarily in favor of it. (Though, as you rightly point out, the Top 3 seeds might be. They would would potentially benefit as much as Nadal.) The loser in the equation is most probably Ferrer. Given that Ferrer seems to be suffering from some niggling injury, and some fatigue or burn-out, there is a mathematical possibility that he could drop back down to 5 before RG. Nadal has points to gain only in Madrid, so that's unlikely to do it, unless David has continued problems in the clay season.

So I'm with those that say that RG has never done it, and shouldn't start now. If Ferrer holds his #4 ranking, then he deserves the more protected position. The jostled rankings would certainly make things lively!

So let me get this straight, If Rafa wins Madrid and defends Rome, he moves past Ferrer? Is that correct

No, it is not. He still needs some help from Ferrer to fail to defend all his points in madrdid/Rome. The gap is 935 points and Rafa cannot gain only 910 in Madrid

thanks for the clarification herios.. it doesnt look good for Rafa to get the number 4 seeding
 

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the AntiPusher said:
herios said:
the AntiPusher said:
Moxie629 said:
Seconded. Glad you found us, MartyB!

Since I was the OP on this thread, I want to point out that I only posted the news. I'm not necessarily in favor of it. (Though, as you rightly point out, the Top 3 seeds might be. They would would potentially benefit as much as Nadal.) The loser in the equation is most probably Ferrer. Given that Ferrer seems to be suffering from some niggling injury, and some fatigue or burn-out, there is a mathematical possibility that he could drop back down to 5 before RG. Nadal has points to gain only in Madrid, so that's unlikely to do it, unless David has continued problems in the clay season.

So I'm with those that say that RG has never done it, and shouldn't start now. If Ferrer holds his #4 ranking, then he deserves the more protected position. The jostled rankings would certainly make things lively!

So let me get this straight, If Rafa wins Madrid and defends Rome, he moves past Ferrer? Is that correct

No, it is not. He still needs some help from Ferrer to fail to defend all his points in madrdid/Rome. The gap is 935 points and Rafa cannot gain only 910 in Madrid

thanks for the clarification herios.. it doesnt look good for Rafa to get the number 4 seeding

As I wrote upthread, if Nadal wins Rome & Madrid AND Ferrer wins less than 515 points from these 2 tourneys, Nadal will be #4 @ RG.

Since Nadal and Ferrer ended up in the same quarter here, the math becomes a little simpler: If Nadal wins Rome & Madrid AND Ferrer doesn't make Rome SF, Nadal will be #4 @ RG.

It isn't as impossibly difficult as it might appear.
 

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reddy said:
the AntiPusher said:
herios said:
the AntiPusher said:
Moxie629 said:
Seconded. Glad you found us, MartyB!

Since I was the OP on this thread, I want to point out that I only posted the news. I'm not necessarily in favor of it. (Though, as you rightly point out, the Top 3 seeds might be. They would would potentially benefit as much as Nadal.) The loser in the equation is most probably Ferrer. Given that Ferrer seems to be suffering from some niggling injury, and some fatigue or burn-out, there is a mathematical possibility that he could drop back down to 5 before RG. Nadal has points to gain only in Madrid, so that's unlikely to do it, unless David has continued problems in the clay season.

So I'm with those that say that RG has never done it, and shouldn't start now. If Ferrer holds his #4 ranking, then he deserves the more protected position. The jostled rankings would certainly make things lively!

So let me get this straight, If Rafa wins Madrid and defends Rome, he moves past Ferrer? Is that correct

No, it is not. He still needs some help from Ferrer to fail to defend all his points in madrdid/Rome. The gap is 935 points and Rafa cannot gain only 910 in Madrid

thanks for the clarification herios.. it doesnt look good for Rafa to get the number 4 seeding

As I wrote upthread, if Nadal wins Rome & Madrid AND Ferrer wins less than 515 points from these 2 tourneys, Nadal will be #4 @ RG.

Since Nadal and Ferrer ended up in the same quarter here, the math becomes a little simpler: If Nadal wins Rome & Madrid AND Ferrer doesn't make Rome SF, Nadal will be #4 @ RG.

It isn't as impossibly difficult as it might appear.

Thanks Reddy.. I should have read what you had written earlier. It good to know that the "math" is still there for Rafa.:)
 

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reddy said:
As I wrote upthread, if Nadal wins Rome & Madrid AND Ferrer wins less than 515 points from these 2 tourneys, Nadal will be #4 @ RG.

Since Nadal and Ferrer ended up in the same quarter here, the math becomes a little simpler: If Nadal wins Rome & Madrid AND Ferrer doesn't make Rome SF, Nadal will be #4 @ RG.

It isn't as impossibly difficult as it might appear.

Thanks, Reddy. :)
 

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Hey Reddy,

In other words, it's now in Rafa's hands.

Good... :)
 

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Kieran said:
Hey Reddy,

In other words, it's now in Rafa's hands.

Good... :)

Ferrer's been playing crap since he came back from that aggravated thigh so it may be in his hands more than Rafa's. Probably a healthy dose of both.
 

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Front242 said:
Ferrer's been playing crap since he came back from that aggravated thigh so it may be in his hands more than Rafa's. Probably a healthy dose of both.

Healthy? With his thigh and Rafa's knees? :s :cool:
 

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Kieran said:
Hey Reddy,

In other words, it's now in Rafa's hands.

Good... :)

Especially if Rafa will be "landed' again in Ferrer's quarter in Rome:p
 

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herios said:
Kieran said:
Hey Reddy,

In other words, it's now in Rafa's hands.

Good... :)

Especially if Rafa will be "landed' again in Ferrer's quarter in Rome:p

are you suggesting that in Rome that there may be some " Divine intervention " with the draw:angel:
 

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the AntiPusher said:
herios said:
Kieran said:
Hey Reddy,

In other words, it's now in Rafa's hands.

Good... :)

Especially if Rafa will be "landed' again in Ferrer's quarter in Rome:p

are you suggesting that in Rome that there may be some " Divine intervention " with the draw:angel:

What do you think I meant??:rolleyes:
 

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herios said:
the AntiPusher said:
herios said:
Kieran said:
Hey Reddy,

In other words, it's now in Rafa's hands.

Good... :)

Especially if Rafa will be "landed' again in Ferrer's quarter in Rome:p

are you suggesting that in Rome that there may be some " Divine intervention " with the draw:angel:

What do you think I meant??:rolleyes:

I just checked out of curiosity :D 29,700,000 results :D

http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=pope+is+a+nadal+fan&oq=pope+is+a+nadal+fan&gs_l=hp.3..33i21.1794.7983.1.8383.19.18.0.0.0.0.915.12188.4-1j6j10.17.0...0.0...1c.1.12.hp.jSCMuLheUQc&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.46226182,d.ZG4&fp=99536a8df2067f03&biw=1280&bih=610
 

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^ haha, good one.

Of course the draws are rigged, but it doesn't matter, you need to win it all in the end. That's what counts.