Miami Open, Miami, FL, 2023 - ATP Masters 1000

[El Dude]

I did not know Miami itself is smaller than Jacksonville, you learn something new every day. ; )

The city itself, not the metro area (which is what I tend to look at). I mean, San Francisco itself is only about 800K, but the whole Bay Area is about ten times that...which I think better represents the urban nature of SF. I've never been to Maimi, but the entire metro area is quite large - over 6 million.

 

[Jelenafan]

The city itself, not the metro area (which is what I tend to look at). I mean, San Francisco itself is only about 800K, but the whole Bay Area is about ten times that...which I think better represents the urban nature of SF. I've never been to Maimi, but the entire metro area is quite large - over 6 million.

I hearya, but i have been to Miami and it has the “feel” of a larger city, hard to explain. Its the same vibe i get with SF or Boston, which are relatively small cities.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Krajinovic is out replaced by LL.

 

[don_fabio]

Don Fabio,

If you are around your thoughts on the draw

Margaret, you're writing like I'm some kind of a drawchallenge specialist
Still chewing on it, I'll drop a few words later. We should ask experts that actually win this thing among 500 others.

 

[tented]

That humidity in Miami is nothing to what we experience in Australia btw,

Really? Have you been to Miami in the summer/early fall? I used to live there. Going outside is like hitting a wall.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Really? Have you been to Miami in the summer/early fall? I used to live there. Going outside is like hitting a wall.

Well here we have temps of 39c with humidity factor of 100%,or 98% we experienced those types of temps for a few day straight that was in our Autumn, btw, even with our temps at 25c we get 100% humidity which is bad enough, with high temps around 30c and 40 c I dont go outside, only if I have to go to work, usually with the high humidity here we usually get violent thunderstorms, trouble with that is, it can make the humidity worse after they go,

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Margaret, you're writing like I'm some kind of a drawchallenge specialist
Still chewing on it, I'll drop a few words later. We should ask experts that actually win this thing among 500 others.

Well you did win IW draw challenge didnt you?

 

[Jelenafan]

Really? Have you been to Miami in the summer/early fall? I used to live there. Going outside is like hitting a wall.

I've never been to Melbourne but this website compares the two:

Melbourne vs Miami: What is the difference?

What is the difference between Miami and Melbourne? Find out which is better and their overall performance in the city ranking.

versus.com

• 32% smaller humidity rate
  
  52%vs84%

On that site on average Miami is more humid...

Of course to me even 15 % humidity is like the fifth circle of hell so I would pass out before either city got anywhere near their worst days....: )

ETA: OTOH , I can't handle if when friends from Phoenix say " but we have dry heat.." it's still a friggin 118 degrees in the shade, a dry oven is still an oven..

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I've never been to Melbourne but this website compares the two:

Melbourne vs Miami: What is the difference?

What is the difference between Miami and Melbourne? Find out which is better and their overall performance in the city ranking.

versus.com

On that site on average Miami is more humid...

Of course to me even 15 % humidity is like the fifth circle of hell so I would pass out before either city got anywhere near their worst days....: )

I dont live in Melbourne BTW, I am not making the humidity up where I live, thank you very much! I was answering a question that Tented asked me about high humidity, where I live it is also like hitting a brick wall

 

[don_fabio]

Well you did win IW draw challenge didnt you?

I was 2nd in the group, some McNugget ended above me. In SF I was 18th overall, but last 2 wins from Alcaraz pushed me down to 136 out of 777.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I was 2nd in the group, some McNugget ended above me. In SF I was 18th overall, but last 2 wins from Alcaraz pushed me down to 136 out of 777.

Boooooo, well you would have done better than me

 

[El Dude]

I hearya, but i have been to Miami and it has the “feel” of a larger city, hard to explain. Its the same vibe i get with SF or Boston, which are relatively small cities.

But that's exactly my point: Miami isn't just the 440K city, it is the entire metro area. Presumably it "feels" more like a 6M city than a 440K one.

 

[Moxie]

I've never been to Melbourne but this website compares the two:

Melbourne vs Miami: What is the difference?

What is the difference between Miami and Melbourne? Find out which is better and their overall performance in the city ranking.

versus.com

On that site on average Miami is more humid...

Of course to me even 15 % humidity is like the fifth circle of hell so I would pass out before either city got anywhere near their worst days....: )

ETA: OTOH , I can't handle if when friends from Phoenix say " but we have dry heat.." it's still a friggin 118 degrees in the shade, a dry oven is still an oven..

I read that March is the least-humid month in Miami, where it peaks at 82% in the morning and drops "all the way down" to 56% by the evening. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with Miss Margaret over how relatively uncomfortable Melbourne is v. Miami, but I'm with @tented: at their worst, places like Miami, (or New Orleans, where I lived) can be like walking through soup. In the lights at night, sometimes you can see the water in the air, even when it's not raining. Suffice it to say, the AO and Miami are two of the more oppressive tournaments for heat and humidity. Acapulco looked brutal this year, and Cincy and the USO can be pretty bad, depending on the day. Maybe Rio? I wonder what are the worst ATP tournaments for heat and humidity.

For myself, I like heat and humidity. (I know people rarely say that.) I certainly love a hot, dry day. You can keep the cold. Happy Spring, to those of us in the Northern Hemisphere, btw!

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I read that March is the least-humid month in Miami, where it peaks at 82% in the morning and drops "all the way down" to 56% by the evening. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with Miss Margaret over how relatively uncomfortable Melbourne is v. Miami, but I'm with @tented: at their worst, places like Miami, (or New Orleans, where I lived) can be like walking through soup. In the lights at night, sometimes you can see the water in the air, even when it's not raining. Suffice it to say, the AO and Miami are two of the more oppressive tournaments for heat and humidity. Acapulco looked brutal this year, and Cincy and the USO can be pretty bad, depending on the day. Maybe Rio? I wonder what are the worst ATP tournaments for heat and humidity.

For myself, I like heat and humidity. (I know people rarely say that.) I certainly love a hot, dry day. You can keep the cold. Happy Spring, to those of us in the Northern Hemisphere, btw!

Moxie,
I was not referring to the humidity in Melbourne as I dont live there okay, I was replying to a post to Tented here about have I experienced high humidity like hitting a wall, I did by the way, where I live the where humidity is higher than Miami.Please read my post when I answered Tented thanks, so I have no idea what Melbourne has got to do with it quite frankly.as it had nothing to do with my post and the high humidity where I live.

 

[Jelenafan]

..For myself, I like heat and humidity. (I know people rarely say that.) I certainly love a hot, dry day...

You are one sick demented puppy... : )

 

[Moxie]

You are one sick demented puppy... : )

People who are heat-averse always say that. Think about how much you suffer in the heat...that is EXACTLY how much I suffer in the cold. When temps drop below 72 degrees, I need a sweater. There are summer people and winter people. I'm a summer girl!

 

[Moxie]

Moxie,
I was not referring to the humidity in Melbourne as I dont live there okay, I was replying to a post to Tented here about have I experienced high humidity like hitting a wall, I did by the way, where I live the humidity is higher than Miami.Please read my post when I answered Tented thanks, so I have no idea what Melbourne has got to do with it quite frankly.as it had nothing to do with my post and the high humidity where I live.

Since we're going to do the weather report here. You said, "That humidity in Miami is nothing to what we experience in Australia btw...." Folks around here took exception, having been to or lived in Miami. Miami is pretty heavy on the humidity. So to say it is "nothing" is in comparison inaccurate. Not worth fighting over. Your larger and more interesting point is that you've been saying they should push the AO a bit later, and not tie it to school holidays, I think? You've said, I believe, that they play it in a particularly brutal time, and that could be solved by a small push. Do I have that right? I does get dangerously hot in Melbourne, and it IS a Major.

 

[Jelenafan]

People who are heat-averse always say that. Think about how much you suffer in the heat...that is EXACTLY how much I suffer in the cold. When temps drop below 72 degrees, I need a sweater. There are summer people and winter people. I'm a summer girl!

Now really talking about sick and demented, I've been in Chi town when it's about 40 + degrees and people are outside in shorts and tank tops. Their response to my incredulous questions as to their sanity..." It's 40 degrees, it's not cold anymore!!"

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Since we're going to do the weather report here. You said, "That humidity in Miami is nothing to what we experience in Australia btw...." Folks around here took exception, having been to or lived in Miami. Miami is pretty heavy on the humidity. So to say it is "nothing" is in comparison inaccurate. Not worth fighting over. Your larger and more interesting point is that you've been saying they should push the AO a bit later, and not tie it to school holidays, I think? You've said, I believe, that they play it in a particularly brutal time, and that could be solved by a small push. Do I have that right? I does get dangerously hot in Melbourne, and it IS a Major.

I am not getting into this, it is like getting the third degree btw? I won't be taken out of context? I was asked a question by Tented about if I had experienced high humidity, I happen to live in a state in Australia not Melbourne as one poster gave us a comparison to Miami and its humidity, I was just stating a fact where I live, humidity is higher, than Miami, I was taken out of context? we experienced high humidity in our Autumn, just a few days ago. As I said I dont know what Melbourne has to do with my post? I have always stated that the AO should be moved, though being in the school holidays I cannot see that happening, I did mention the weather in Melbourne in February is hotter and humid that is all. Tennis is a summer sport,players have to be prepared to play in different conditions, hot and humid conditions are a part of that in our Summer in different countries.

 

[Moxie]

Now really talking about sick and demented, I've been in Chi town when it's about 40 + degrees and people are outside in shorts and tank tops. Their response to my incredulous questions as to their sanity..." It's 40 degrees, it's not cold anymore!!"

I have a house in NH. (I know, contradiction.) People up there are the same. Forty degrees on a sunny day, and it's all shorts and sandals. Madness!