McEnroe on Federer's chances at #18

[Fiero425]

roger`s best chances for a slam are at Wimbledon.


He has to show up ready, prepared, and fit there next year.

It is the least demanding Slam.

There are too many sharks at Flushing Meadows.

Still he could surprise the world if the top guns falter.

I dont think he will win Wimbledon again if Murray is fit for the fight,Murray now has his number @ Wimbledon on grass.If Nadal plays,i think he beats Roger as well,long as his knee's are ok.Potty & Nole could also take Roger out.For me Hurc i think the USO is his best chance of a Slam,why,if Rogers serve is on then he can be a danger.Rogers not done much in the last 2 Masters,so he should be fresh & he likes quick courts.

That's a lot of "IF's" there! A lot of them quite questionable; esp. the health of both Murray and Nadal! They work too hard to win the simplest of matches so they'll burn themselves out all too often in the future! They have the ability to play more offensively, but prefer to just run down all shots and have great "gets" instead of taking it to their oponent! Dumb; real dumb!

 

[sid]

roger`s best chances for a slam are at Wimbledon.


He has to show up ready, prepared, and fit there next year.

It is the least demanding Slam.

There are too many sharks at Flushing Meadows.

Still he could surprise the world if the top guns falter.

I dont think he will win Wimbledon again if Murray is fit for the fight,Murray now has his number @ Wimbledon on grass.If Nadal plays,i think he beats Roger as well,long as his knee's are ok.Potty & Nole could also take Roger out.For me Hurc i think the USO is his best chance of a Slam,why,if Rogers serve is on then he can be a danger.Rogers not done much in the last 2 Masters,so he should be fresh & he likes quick courts.

That's a lot of "IF's" there! A lot of them quite questionable; esp. the health of both Murray and Nadal! They work too hard to win the simplest of matches so they'll burn themselves out all too often in the future! They have the ability to play more offensively, but prefer to just run down all shots and have great "gets" instead of taking it to their oponent! Dumb; real dumb!

Please dont be rude to others,no need for it.(Dumb; real dumb):nono
Thank you so much for that.

 

[sid]

roger`s best chances for a slam are at Wimbledon.


He has to show up ready, prepared, and fit there next year.

It is the least demanding Slam.

There are too many sharks at Flushing Meadows.

Still he could surprise the world if the top guns falter.

I dont think he will win Wimbledon again if Murray is fit for the fight,Murray now has his number @ Wimbledon on grass.If Nadal plays,i think he beats Roger as well,long as his knee's are ok.Potty & Nole could also take Roger out.For me Hurc i think the USO is his best chance of a Slam,why,if Rogers serve is on then he can be a danger.Rogers not done much in the last 2 Masters,so he should be fresh & he likes quick courts.

That's a lot of "IF's" there! A lot of them quite questionable; esp. the health of both Murray and Nadal! They work too hard to win the simplest of matches so they'll burn themselves out all too often in the future! They have the ability to play more offensively, but prefer to just run down all shots and have great "gets" instead of taking it to their oponent! Dumb; real dumb!

Dumb; real dumb & Murray's been in the last 4 Slams Finals he's played in

 

[Fiero425]

roger`s best chances for a slam are at Wimbledon.


He has to show up ready, prepared, and fit there next year.

It is the least demanding Slam.

There are too many sharks at Flushing Meadows.

Still he could surprise the world if the top guns falter.

I dont think he will win Wimbledon again if Murray is fit for the fight,Murray now has his number @ Wimbledon on grass.If Nadal plays,i think he beats Roger as well,long as his knee's are ok.Potty & Nole could also take Roger out.For me Hurc i think the USO is his best chance of a Slam,why,if Rogers serve is on then he can be a danger.Rogers not done much in the last 2 Masters,so he should be fresh & he likes quick courts.

That's a lot of "IF's" there! A lot of them quite questionable; esp. the health of both Murray and Nadal! They work too hard to win the simplest of matches so they'll burn themselves out all too often in the future! They have the ability to play more offensively, but prefer to just run down all shots and have great "gets" instead of taking it to their oponent! Dumb; real dumb!

Please dont be rude to others,no need for it.(Dumb; real dumb):nono
Thank you so much for that.

Unfortunately you're taking it personally when I was talking about the tactics of Andy and Rafa; they're the dummies! Pls read before commenting back; it would be appreciated if you could read my mind! :snigger :clap :laydownlaughing :angel:

 

[Fiero425]

roger`s best chances for a slam are at Wimbledon.


He has to show up ready, prepared, and fit there next year.

It is the least demanding Slam.

There are too many sharks at Flushing Meadows.

Still he could surprise the world if the top guns falter.

I dont think he will win Wimbledon again if Murray is fit for the fight,Murray now has his number @ Wimbledon on grass.If Nadal plays,i think he beats Roger as well,long as his knee's are ok.Potty & Nole could also take Roger out.For me Hurc i think the USO is his best chance of a Slam,why,if Rogers serve is on then he can be a danger.Rogers not done much in the last 2 Masters,so he should be fresh & he likes quick courts.

That's a lot of "IF's" there! A lot of them quite questionable; esp. the health of both Murray and Nadal! They work too hard to win the simplest of matches so they'll burn themselves out all too often in the future! They have the ability to play more offensively, but prefer to just run down all shots and have great "gets" instead of taking it to their oponent! Dumb; real dumb!

Dumb; real dumb & Murray's been in the last 4 Slams Finals he's played in

...at what cost? Players are breaking down and never reaching 30 like they used to; Federer, Gasquet, and few others play more effortlessly; hense their longevity! :angel:

 

[sid]

Grand Slam Singles Results you can see on this page,Wimbledon 2013 not filled in yet.

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/players/overview/atpmc10.html

 

[sid]

roger`s best chances for a slam are at Wimbledon.


He has to show up ready, prepared, and fit there next year.

It is the least demanding Slam.

There are too many sharks at Flushing Meadows.

Still he could surprise the world if the top guns falter.

I dont think he will win Wimbledon again if Murray is fit for the fight,Murray now has his number @ Wimbledon on grass.If Nadal plays,i think he beats Roger as well,long as his knee's are ok.Potty & Nole could also take Roger out.For me Hurc i think the USO is his best chance of a Slam,why,if Rogers serve is on then he can be a danger.Rogers not done much in the last 2 Masters,so he should be fresh & he likes quick courts.

That's a lot of "IF's" there! A lot of them quite questionable; esp. the health of both Murray and Nadal! They work too hard to win the simplest of matches so they'll burn themselves out all too often in the future! They have the ability to play more offensively, but prefer to just run down all shots and have great "gets" instead of taking it to their oponent! Dumb; real dumb!

Dumb; real dumb & Murray's been in the last 4 Slams Finals he's played in

...at what cost? Players are breaking down and never reaching 30 like they used to; Federer, Gasquet, and few others play more effortlessly; hense their longevity! :angel:

Murray not 30 nor is Nole/Potty or Nadal.What i said was,Fed won't win Wimbledon nothing about his age:laydownlaughing

 

[sid]

roger`s best chances for a slam are at Wimbledon.


He has to show up ready, prepared, and fit there next year.

It is the least demanding Slam.

There are too many sharks at Flushing Meadows.

Still he could surprise the world if the top guns falter.

I dont think he will win Wimbledon again if Murray is fit for the fight,Murray now has his number @ Wimbledon on grass.If Nadal plays,i think he beats Roger as well,long as his knee's are ok.Potty & Nole could also take Roger out.For me Hurc i think the USO is his best chance of a Slam,why,if Rogers serve is on then he can be a danger.Rogers not done much in the last 2 Masters,so he should be fresh & he likes quick courts.

That's a lot of "IF's" there! A lot of them quite questionable; esp. the health of both Murray and Nadal! They work too hard to win the simplest of matches so they'll burn themselves out all too often in the future! They have the ability to play more offensively, but prefer to just run down all shots and have great "gets" instead of taking it to their oponent! Dumb; real dumb!

Please dont be rude to others,no need for it.(Dumb; real dumb):nono
Thank you so much for that.

Unfortunately you're taking it personally when I was talking about the tactics of Andy and Rafa; they're the dummies! Pls read before commenting back; it would be appreciated if you could read my mind! :snigger :clap :laydownlaughing :angel:

I'm not taking this personally,if anything your post was dumb

 

[ClayDeath]

roger`s best chances for a slam are at Wimbledon.


He has to show up ready, prepared, and fit there next year.

It is the least demanding Slam.

There are too many sharks at Flushing Meadows.

Still he could surprise the world if the top guns falter.

I dont think he will win Wimbledon again if Murray is fit for the fight,Murray now has his number @ Wimbledon on grass.If Nadal plays,i think he beats Roger as well,long as his knee's are ok.Potty & Nole could also take Roger out.For me Hurc i think the USO is his best chance of a Slam,why,if Rogers serve is on then he can be a danger.Rogers not done much in the last 2 Masters,so he should be fresh & he likes quick courts.

That's a lot of "IF's" there! A lot of them quite questionable; esp. the health of both Murray and Nadal! They work too hard to win the simplest of matches so they'll burn themselves out all too often in the future! They have the ability to play more offensively, but prefer to just run down all shots and have great "gets" instead of taking it to their oponent! Dumb; real dumb!

Please dont be rude to others,no need for it.(Dumb; real dumb):nono
Thank you so much for that.

Unfortunately you're taking it personally when I was talking about the tactics of Andy and Rafa; they're the dummies! Pls read before commenting back; it would be appreciated if you could read my mind! :snigger :clap :laydownlaughing :angel:

rafa has a winning record against ALL OF THE PLAYERS IN THE TOP 30.


how much smarter does he need to be exactly?


you don't really want him to be a little smarter and a little better. nobody would win a match against him anywhere.



andy is the defending champion at flushing meadows and he just tore apart the best player in the game at Wimbledon.


clay warrior is one of the greatest in history.


by your definition, I bet the whole damn tour is looking to become "dummies" like these two so they too can dominate the sport.

 

[atttomole]

roger`s best chances for a slam are at Wimbledon.


He has to show up ready, prepared, and fit there next year.

It is the least demanding Slam.

There are too many sharks at Flushing Meadows.

Still he could surprise the world if the top guns falter.

I dont think he will win Wimbledon again if Murray is fit for the fight,Murray now has his number @ Wimbledon on grass.If Nadal plays,i think he beats Roger as well,long as his knee's are ok.Potty & Nole could also take Roger out.For me Hurc i think the USO is his best chance of a Slam,why,if Rogers serve is on then he can be a danger.Rogers not done much in the last 2 Masters,so he should be fresh & he likes quick courts.

That's a lot of "IF's" there! A lot of them quite questionable; esp. the health of both Murray and Nadal! They work too hard to win the simplest of matches so they'll burn themselves out all too often in the future! They have the ability to play more offensively, but prefer to just run down all shots and have great "gets" instead of taking it to their oponent! Dumb; real dumb!

Yes, it sounds like 'bad knees are the only way Federer can beat Nadal'. Health is always a potential problem for every tennis player, not just Nadal. Djokovic had his breathing problems and Federer now back issues.

 

[Tennis Miller]

This isn't 2002. There isn't a never-won-a-major young Andy Roddick in the quarters, and no Scheng Schalken in the semis. There's no chance of 32-year old Roger pulling a USO title out of a hat.

Luckily for him, given the form of Agassi that year, because he battled hard to beat a 35 year old crocked Agassi in 2005, after the veteran had just finished 3 five setters.

I'm thinking the negativity of Fedfans is a ploy to cushion the blow if he loses, or raise the roof if he wins. He's Federer! Of course he has a chance, even against Nadal. And most especially if he's gone that far in the first place...

Roger's 4 set victory at the 2005 USO (6-1 in the 4th) over Agassi , whom Roger had long owned, has nothing to do with my point of comparing 32 year old Roger's USO chances with the 2002 Sampras situation. Why are Pete fans so touchy about this? (As long as we're digressing about 2005, at least Andre showed up, unlike the only two Aussie Opens Pete won, and unlike the last half of 1995 -97.)

Getting back to the point of my post, if Roger couldn't rise to the occasion for the 2/3 set WTF final while playing well, under the best possible circumstances for him, he has no chance at the USO. There's no "ploy", just rational observation, especially given Federer' s current form, as contrasted with the form of his projected QF opponent, the hottest player on the planet. This isn't 2002, not gonna happen.

Cheers,
TM

 

[Kieran]

Eh, I think your point about 2002 required a bit of balancing, not being touchy at all, my friend! It was great seeing the crocked 'Dre give Federer the shivers in 2004 and 2005. At his peak, he didn't quite do that to Pete in NY, but then, Pete wasn't one to take much guff from Agassi...

 

[Fiero425]

Eh, I think your point about 2002 required a bit of balancing, not being touchy at all, my friend! It was great seeing the crocked 'Dre give Federer the shivers in 2004 and 2005. At his peak, he didn't quite do that to Pete in NY, but then, Pete wasn't one to take much guff from Agassi...

Not to undermine Agassi in the least, but the so called "rivalry" was so overblown! Agassi got Pete at a couple majors; 1 FO and AO '95 where he was dealing with Gullikson's collapse a few days before! Sampras barely made the final actually "breaking down" in his match against Courier in the semi! Never saw anything like that before; someone overcome with grief on court! Jim offerred to "play the match the next day;" on court when the tears were flowing! As for the rest of the matches with Agassi, they were jokes with Sampras winning most of them including that blowout at '90 USO final! They even tried to feature a final on monday night like the olds day back in mid 70's! I think it must have been Indian Well in '95! Pete beat him in straight sets while the commentators desperately tried to make it seem like this was a contest! I was embarrassed for Stolle, Drysdale, and Carillo acting as if Andre had a chance! Sampras' running forehand caught Agassi just watching the ball without even a swing at it at times!

 

[Srini]

I'm thinking the negativity of Fedfans is a ploy to cushion the blow if he loses, or raise the roof if he wins. He's Federer! Of course he has a chance, even against Nadal. And most especially if he's gone that far in the first place...

Hey Kieran, I thought you always said there is no way Roger is going to beat Rafa over 5 sets I am a fedfan and feel that way too. (I only wish there was a grandslam on Indoor courts so that Roger can take revenge)This is not negativity, its a very reasonable expectation after the year he has had and when he is playing Rafa. But its just a prediction based on history, I will stick to it till its proven wrong.

 

[Mastoor]

Actually, if Fed won this uso, I wouldn't be surprised. He is not old enough to be written off.

 

[Kieran]

I'm thinking the negativity of Fedfans is a ploy to cushion the blow if he loses, or raise the roof if he wins. He's Federer! Of course he has a chance, even against Nadal. And most especially if he's gone that far in the first place...

Hey Kieran, I thought you always said there is no way Roger is going to beat Rafa over 5 sets I am a fedfan and feel that way too. (I only wish there was a grandslam on Indoor courts so that Roger can take revenge)This is not negativity, its a very reasonable expectation after the year he has had and when he is playing Rafa. But its just a prediction based on history, I will stick to it till its proven wrong.

If there was a grand slam indoor, he still would only get to 4 sets against Rafa!

Ain't happening, chap! That's not to say it's impossible...

 

[DarthFed]

Eh, I think your point about 2002 required a bit of balancing, not being touchy at all, my friend! It was great seeing the crocked 'Dre give Federer the shivers in 2004 and 2005. At his peak, he didn't quite do that to Pete in NY, but then, Pete wasn't one to take much guff from Agassi...

6-1 in the 4th was a lot of shivers? Pretty sure Agassi gave tougher matches to Pete at USO than that one.

 

[DarthFed]

Actually, if Fed won this uso, I wouldn't be surprised. He is not old enough to be written off.

I wouldn't write him off due to his age, I'm writing him off due to him being awful all season long. Not even Roger is going from dud to beast in one tournament, coming back strong will take some time.

 

[Kieran]

Eh, I think your point about 2002 required a bit of balancing, not being touchy at all, my friend! It was great seeing the crocked 'Dre give Federer the shivers in 2004 and 2005. At his peak, he didn't quite do that to Pete in NY, but then, Pete wasn't one to take much guff from Agassi...

6-1 in the 4th was a lot of shivers? Pretty sure Agassi gave tougher matches to Pete at USO than that one.

I think Dre was up a break in the 3rd before 3 successive five-setters caught up with him....

 

[Kieran]

Actually, if Fed won this uso, I wouldn't be surprised. He is not old enough to be written off.

I wouldn't write him off due to his age, I'm writing him off due to him being awful all season long. Not even Roger is going from dud to beast in one tournament, coming back strong will take some time.

You never know, Darth! A man like him is so experienced that once he clicks he could be on fire in an instant...