Kyrgios is the polarizing figure tennis needs

[scoop]

Tennis needs Nick's flash and flair and drama - he can turn a match into a "circus" like Federer said but it's great theater for the fans - Versus Berdych Nick tried to turn the match into one of his signature circuses with his distraction antics about the music playing and the shoddy umpiring (in his opinion) and it was a great four set battle won by Berd who refused to lose his focus - during the ESPN commentary Patrick mcenroe asked Cahill if he thought Nick's antics were intentionally designed to distract Berdych or any of his opponents and Cahill carefully diplomatically agreed: "- - - maybe a little bit - f0r sure"  A guy like Nick is a thrill to see - he plays magical tennis and he also has a flamboyant cockiness that arrests your attention - underneath all the antics Nick is a good person who is very well liked by several other players including Andy murray and Jack Sock Hewitt and Kokkinakis - I know Nick is taking a lot of criticism but I love the kid and think he's just a fantastic addition to the all-star roster of superstars who are shining up the sport right now - Keep doing it your way Kyrgios tennis needs you -- There's an old saying:  "A truly strong person doesn't need the approval of anybody - just like a Lion does not need the approval of sheep"

 

[EdbergsGhost]

If you think the NBA is good for tennis, that's good for you.  Probably others will agree.  I think it's shite. 

 

[Denis]

If tennis needs Kyrgyos, tennis needs to get its head sorted out. The guy has nothing going for him personality wise.

 

[herios]

Nick is a scumbag, excuse my expresssion

 

[Billie]

Nick is a scumbag, excuse my expresssion

Well I think that is too harsh. He is sort of person that some will either like or dislike very much.

 

[mrzz]

The point here is what tennis "needs". The point for me is that tennis, right now, needs nothing. There are fantastically good players, we get to see fantastic matches, tournaments are held world wide, televised a lot etc and etc. My favorite player is not winning, ok, but as far as tennis goes, things are quite good. So, for me surely tennis does not "need" Kyrgios.

But I see that, for some, folks like him are a welcomed piece of news. So, it is not tennis that needs him, but some fans, as the one who opened the thread. It is fine for me.

I, personally, do not like him too much. And up till yesterday I thought he was just an ok player, another big server. People lauded him as someone with loads of talent, and I thought that it was absurd.

But, after the match,  I see a bit of people's point. I still think there is too much hype around him, but the kid is good. Not that good, though.

However, if you want temper, you could look also to guys like Jerzy Janowicz. I see no reason why tennis "needs" Kyrgios more than someone like him, for example. But, again, is all a matter of taste.

 

 

 

[britbox]

There will be a vaccuum in tennis sooner than you might think.

Tennis absolutely needs guys like Kyrgios. Even if you dislike him, you talk about him. He's not somebody that gets ignored.

Personally, I think he's a bit of a pantomime villain, in that he's not really a bad lad - just young and bit foolish. But, he's got a lot of upside... a big mouth and is a colourful character. Sure he needs to put his money where is mouth is... but give him time and I think he'll get better.

 

[herios]

There will be a vaccuum in tennis sooner than you might think. Tennis absolutely needs guys like Kyrgios. Even if you dislike him, you talk about him. He’s not somebody that gets ignored. Personally, I think he’s a bit of a pantomime villain, in that he’s not really a bad lad – just young and bit foolish. But, he’s got a lot of upside… a big mouth and is a colourful character. Sure he needs to put his money where is mouth is… but give him time and I think he’ll get better.

Sorry britbox, I agree with twisted and not with you. Tennis will find its next generation of champions at one point. If they will have dull personality like Lendl, or villain like McEnroe or Kyrgios now, that remains to be seen. Kyrgios has a lot of upside, yes he has, but so has Dimitrov, but things at one point do not come together for a reason or other.

If you choose to root for Nick, it is your choice. I am on the opposite side of the fence as far as Nick is concerned. I cannot stand him. Tennis will find the players to fill the vacuum no matter what. And the public will also find his new idols to root for.

 

[calitennis127]

If you think the NBA is good for tennis, that’s good for you. Probably others will agree. I think it’s shite.

Racist statement! I am surprised Moxie, Federberg, and whiteboy Broken haven't jumped all over you. The problem for Moxie and Federberg is that neither of them know anything about the NBA or any black-dominated sport.

 

[calitennis127]

If tennis needs Kyrgyos, tennis needs to get its head sorted out. The guy has nothing going for him personality wise.

He actually has everything going for him personality-wise. He is a terrific player for tennis to have and I wish there were more of his kind to stand up to whispering fruitcakes like Wawrinka, who should learn to shave and talk like a man before he talks down to other players during matches.

 

[calitennis127]

The point here is what tennis “needs”. The point for me is that tennis, right now, needs nothing. There are fantastically good players, we get to see fantastic matches, tournaments are held world wide, televised a lot etc and etc. My favorite player is not winning, ok, but as far as tennis goes, things are quite good. So, for me surely tennis does not “need” Kyrgios. But I see that, for some, folks like him are a welcomed piece of news. So, it is not tennis that needs him, but some fans, as the one who opened the thread. It is fine for me. I, personally, do not like him too much. And up till yesterday I thought he was just an ok player, another big server. People lauded him as someone with loads of talent, and I thought that it was absurd. But, after the match, I see a bit of people’s point. I still think there is too much hype around him, but the kid is good. Not that good, though. However, if you want temper, you could look also to guys like Jerzy Janowicz. I see no reason why tennis “needs” Kyrgios more than someone like him, for example. But, again, is all a matter of taste.

The reason tennis needs Kyrgios is that most of the players are vanilla, plain, and boring. What Kyrgios himself needs is improved forehand technique so that he stops hitting the ball like Sam f-ing Querrey, who typifies the kind of white nerds in the U.S. who play tennis.

 

[calitennis127]

There will be a vaccuum in tennis sooner than you might think. Tennis absolutely needs guys like Kyrgios. Even if you dislike him, you talk about him. He’s not somebody that gets ignored. Personally, I think he’s a bit of a pantomime villain, in that he’s not really a bad lad – just young and bit foolish. But, he’s got a lot of upside… a big mouth and is a colourful character. Sure he needs to put his money where is mouth is… but give him time and I think he’ll get better.

Agreed. He is someone that is above the comprehension level of most tennis fans, as you can see on this board. But he brings some energy, charisma, and masculine character into the game.

 

[mrzz]

The reason tennis needs Kyrgios is that most of the players are vanilla, plain, and boring. What Kyrgios himself needs is improved forehand technique so that he stops hitting the ball like Sam f-ing Querrey, who typifies the kind of white nerds in the U.S. who play tennis.

Are you talking about tennis player's technique's or personalities? Because if you are talking about personalities, I cannot help but think that this is completely secondary. And I really do not see what, technically wise, Kyrgios could bring to the game.

I see the point of charismatic figure doing good for the show. But, honestly, there's a fine line between being charismatic and being, well, an egocentric douche. Again, I could not care less about it, and people are entitled to their own opinions. There's not much to comprehend about this.

 

[calitennis127]

Calitennis127 wrote:
The reason tennis needs Kyrgios is that most of the players are vanilla, plain, and boring. What Kyrgios himself needs is improved forehand technique so that he stops hitting the ball like Sam f-ing Querrey, who typifies the kind of white nerds in the U.S. who play tennis.

Are you talking about tennis player’s technique’s or personalities?

I am talking about both. I think Kyrgios has a great personality, but I can't stand the way he scrunches up his arm with a bent-elbow set-up before hitting a forehand.

Because if you are talking about personalities, I cannot help but think that this is completely secondary. And I really do not see what, technically wise, Kyrgios could bring to the game. I see the point of charismatic figure doing good for the show. But, honestly, there’s a fine line between being charismatic and being, well, an egocentric douche. Again, I could not care less about it, and people are entitled to their own opinions. There’s not much to comprehend about this.

Sports are partially aesthetic. Providing flare is a good thing not just for entertainment, but for setting a strong tone for one's own play. Kyrgios's problems right now have to do with his game, not his attitude, but people focus on the attitude because they don't like it and they don't understand it.

 

[herios]

We understand very well, trust me. But I hope there will be more talents even better than Kyrgios, who actually were raised to be mannered, know how to behave and will be stars in the sport without igniting controversy left and right.

 

[calitennis127]

Djokovic has ignited more than his share of controversy, so I don’t know what your problem is. Also, I do not see what Kyrgios has done that is so bad, given that he is playing in tennis matches. Maybe you need to toughen up a little bit instead of being so sensitive when you watch him.

 

[mrzz]

^I see your points, which is quite along the lines of the OP.

But I will tell you that I don’t like this “you either like him or you don’t understand him”. Ok, again I see your point, but I do undestand him and I am not impressed.

Anyway, all this “flare”can only work out if he has the results to back it up, and he still doesn’t. This, as you call it, aesthetical part (a strange one, but ok) is part of the show, you do have a point (as has the OP), but again, I would find someone like Janowicz a much better alternative: his provocative and rude off court comments, his far from pretty little boy image and his power imposing game. If he were a (far) better player and started beating the big names, he would be really hated.

 

[calitennis127]

^I see your points, which is quite along the lines of the OP.

But I will tell you that I don’t like this “you either like him or you don’t understand him”. Ok, again I see your point, but I do undestand him and I am not impressed.

Anyway, all this “flare”can only work out if he has the results to back it up, and he still doesn’t. This, as you call it, aesthetical part (a strange one, but ok) is part of the show, you do have a point (as has the OP), but again, I would find someone like Janowicz a much better alternative: his provocative and rude off court comments, his far from pretty little boy image and his power imposing game. If he were a (far) better player and started beating the big names, he would be really hated.

^I see your points, which is quite along the lines of the OP. But I will tell you that I don’t like this “you either like him or you don’t understand him”. Ok, again I see your point, but I do undestand him and I am not impressed. Anyway, all this “flare”can only work out if he has the results to back it up, and he still doesn’t. This, as you call it, aesthetical part (a strange one, but ok) is part of the show, you do have a point (as has the OP), but again, I would find someone like Janowicz a much better alternative: his provocative and rude off court comments, his far from pretty little boy image and his power imposing game. If he were a (far) better player and started beating the big names, he would be really hated. [/quote]

I like Janowicz too, but my point with Kyrgios is that his attitude is not the problem. People always used to say that Murray’s attitude was the problem and during the 2012 US Open final against Djokovic he dropped enough f-bombs for a full year’s worth of cursing, and, amazingly, a number of people said after the match that he was able to win because he had “matured”. But when he cussed left and right and lost, they said that he was immature.

Kyrgios’s problems are with his game, not with his mentality. His coaching is clearly substandard.

 

[herios]

Oh Common. Like you don’t know. Nick is not playing fairly, tries to destruct his opponent. That is what he does.

 

[calitennis127]

Oh Common. Like you don’t know. Nick is not playing fairly, tries to destruct his opponent. That is what he does.

Tries to “destruct” his opponent? What does that mean? If you are talking about Wawrinka, I really don’t have any problem with what he did. Wawrinka deserves to be told off.