Jan/Feb TENNIS Magazine "expert" picks

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Front242 said:
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I don't get the "Biggest Bust" category...To me , it should be reserved for young guys whom we expect a lot of, and when they don't perform, THAT should be a bust, not older guys like Haas, Ferrer etc that are on their way out anyways...

To me biggest bust would have to be Serena Williams. In the ATP I've no idea and haven't paid much attention to moobs.

Bro, there was another female player who had to have a reduction...Halep or something. She has to win in that category.;)

Ah yeah, was thinking that alright but those puppies are gone for good :( But they were niiiiiice! Can see how they interfered with her game a lot though!

Crazy!

Not sure that was necessary, but I guess I'm guilty of encouraging it. :s
 

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Utterly disgusted as I thought our Sky tv package had Eurosport but apparently not so streaming it is :/ Really was looking forward to finally watching tennis on my 55" tv I bought a few months ago. Doh.
 

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Wow, I definitely hadnt seen her on court before. Getting rid of those should raise her ranking a ton :)

Actually it has already.

"At almost 18 years old, Halep decided that her large bust was interfering with her game. She underwent mastopexy to reduce her bust size to 34C from 34DD. There was wide criticism of her decision to reduce her bust in order to improve her game. Fans petitioned her to reconsider her decision. She responded, saying, "It's the weight that troubles me. My ability to react quickly, my breasts make me uncomfortable when I play. I don’t like them in my everyday life, either. I would have gone for surgery even if I hadn’t been a sportswoman."[14] She also experienced back pain.[15] She later revealed her reduced bust size at the French Open in May 2010.[14] Since the surgery, she has moved up over 450 places in the world rankings."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simona_Halep

they say her old t1ts now have a world rank all of their own now.
 

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1972Murat said:
Moving on, I really like the dress Venus is wearing right now...and I am already loving the sunshine. It is like a new beginning.

Great dress. I'm sorry it didn't bring her better luck. Still, there is the sunshine. Hope the heat backs off.
 

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It depends on what dark horse is. Is it someone unexpected who can cause upsets, or someone unexpected who can win the tournament? I always considered it the former to be honest, since those with a real chance of winning the tournament are pretty known, and as Denis mentioned above, are contenders.

"someone unexpected who can cause upsets" -- Spoiler (well, a form of spoiler, at least)

"someone unexpected who can win the tournament" -- Dark horse

Good definitions tented.

Not sure how tennis.com "experts" picked Cilic. :laydownlaughing Really?? He's gutless.

Gutless? That is a bit harsh.:puzzled
 

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^Well, you can come up with your own adjective then, but Cilic has been in the big group of unrealized potential for a long time. He's got size and some nice weapons, but hasn't made much of them, basically ever.
 

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^Well, you can come up with your own adjective then, but Cilic has been in the big group of unrealized potential for a long time. He's got size and some nice weapons, but hasn't made much of them, basically ever.

Yeah, all he's done of note was a straight sets victory over Murray in the 2009 US Open. Besides that a few finals in places like Queens (also against Murray) and that's about it. He probably needs every illegal substance he can get away with :p Still think it's plain wrong of the ATP to let Cilic back on tour for testing positive while giving Troicki 18 months suspension for refusing a test. Both as bad as each other. They really are clueless and very unfair with it.
 

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Luxilon Borg said:
nehmeth said:
Not sure how tennis.com "experts" picked Cilic. Really?? He's gutless.

Gutless? That is a bit harsh.

Actually, it was one of the kinder ones I came up with. :snigger

When Cilic first arrived on the scene and before a lot of the hype, I thought he had significant potential. I followed him pretty closely for a while, but quickly came to the conclusion he lacked the "stones" (the heart, the courage, the unflagging resolve), to win on the biggest stages. His career thus far, sadly, has proven it to be true.
 

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Front242 said:
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^Well, you can come up with your own adjective then, but Cilic has been in the big group of unrealized potential for a long time. He's got size and some nice weapons, but hasn't made much of them, basically ever.

Yeah, all he's done of note was a straight sets victory over Murray in the 2009 US Open. Besides that a few finals in places like Queens (also against Murray) and that's about it. He probably needs every illegal substance he can get away with :p Still think it's plain wrong of the ATP to let Cilic back on tour for testing positive while giving Troicki 18 months suspension for refusing a test. Both as bad as each other. They really are clueless and very unfair with it.

Kinda agree...does anyone know what Cilic tested positive for?
 

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^Well, you can come up with your own adjective then, but Cilic has been in the big group of unrealized potential for a long time. He's got size and some nice weapons, but hasn't made much of them, basically ever.

Yeah, all he's done of note was a straight sets victory over Murray in the 2009 US Open. Besides that a few finals in places like Queens (also against Murray) and that's about it. He probably needs every illegal substance he can get away with :p Still think it's plain wrong of the ATP to let Cilic back on tour for testing positive while giving Troicki 18 months suspension for refusing a test. Both as bad as each other. They really are clueless and very unfair with it.

Kinds agree...does anyone know what Cilic tested positive for?

High levels of glucose for which he used the trusty old, "oh I bought something that obviously had all these bad banned substances in it, please leave me off gently and I promise I won't do it again."
 

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Front242 said:
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Front242 said:
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^Well, you can come up with your own adjective then, but Cilic has been in the big group of unrealized potential for a long time. He's got size and some nice weapons, but hasn't made much of them, basically ever.

Yeah, all he's done of note was a straight sets victory over Murray in the 2009 US Open. Besides that a few finals in places like Queens (also against Murray) and that's about it. He probably needs every illegal substance he can get away with :p Still think it's plain wrong of the ATP to let Cilic back on tour for testing positive while giving Troicki 18 months suspension for refusing a test. Both as bad as each other. They really are clueless and very unfair with it.

Kinds agree...does anyone know what Cilic tested positive for?

High levels of glucose for which he used the trusty old, "oh I bought something that obviously had all these bad banned substances in it, please leave me off gently and I promise I won't do it again."
Pretty typical. But still miles ahead of other so called sports.

I have to read up, I am not sure what elevated levels of glucose is an indicator of.
 

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Luxilon Borg said:
Front242 said:
Luxilon Borg said:
Front242 said:
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^Well, you can come up with your own adjective then, but Cilic has been in the big group of unrealized potential for a long time. He's got size and some nice weapons, but hasn't made much of them, basically ever.

Yeah, all he's done of note was a straight sets victory over Murray in the 2009 US Open. Besides that a few finals in places like Queens (also against Murray) and that's about it. He probably needs every illegal substance he can get away with :p Still think it's plain wrong of the ATP to let Cilic back on tour for testing positive while giving Troicki 18 months suspension for refusing a test. Both as bad as each other. They really are clueless and very unfair with it.

Kinds agree...does anyone know what Cilic tested positive for?

High levels of glucose for which he used the trusty old, "oh I bought something that obviously had all these bad banned substances in it, please leave me off gently and I promise I won't do it again."
Pretty typical. But still miles ahead of other so called sports.

I have to read up, I am not sure what elevated levels of glucose is an indicator of.

HGH but try telling the ATP that. They just buy the lame excuse about over the counter supplements. Maybe he genuinely is innocent and that's fine but why then have they completely screwed Viktor Troicki with an 18 month ban for refusing a test and given Cilic 4 months for testing positive for a banned substance. The whole thing is beyond moronic and the ATP/ITF should be ashamed.
 

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Front242 said:
Luxilon Borg said:
Front242 said:
Luxilon Borg said:
Front242 said:
Yeah, all he's done of note was a straight sets victory over Murray in the 2009 US Open. Besides that a few finals in places like Queens (also against Murray) and that's about it. He probably needs every illegal substance he can get away with :p Still think it's plain wrong of the ATP to let Cilic back on tour for testing positive while giving Troicki 18 months suspension for refusing a test. Both as bad as each other. They really are clueless and very unfair with it.

Kinds agree...does anyone know what Cilic tested positive for?

High levels of glucose for which he used the trusty old, "oh I bought something that obviously had all these bad banned substances in it, please leave me off gently and I promise I won't do it again."
Pretty typical. But still miles ahead of other so called sports.

I have to read up, I am not sure what elevated levels of glucose is an indicator of.

HGH but try telling the ATP that. They just buy the lame excuse about over the counter supplements. Maybe he genuinely is innocent and that's fine but why then have they completely screwed Viktor Troicki with an 18 month ban for refusing a test and given Cilic 4 months for testing positive for a banned substance. The whole thing is beyond moronic and the ATP/ITF should be ashamed.
Hmmmm..thanks for that. Yes the VT affair is a rather strange.
 

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I'm still sympathetic to players who travel around the world and buy over-the-counter supplements that they don't have enough ability to vet. I'm giving some benefit of the doubt to Cilic. However, it is astonishing that Cilic failed a drug test, and is back on tour, after a few months ban, whereas Troicki, who failed to take one, however feeble his excuse, is still serving one. This is where ITF, at the very least, needs to be clearer about policy.
 

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Moxie629 said:
I'm still sympathetic to players who travel around the world and buy over-the-counter supplements that they don't have enough ability to vet. I'm giving some benefit of the doubt to Cilic. However, it is astonishing that Cilic failed a drug test, and is back on tour, after a few months ban, whereas Troicki, who failed to take one, however feeble his excuse, is still serving one. This is where ITF, at the very least, needs to be clearer about policy.

Actually, missing or refusing a test should be sanctioned the heaviest. Otherwise you could have strategic behavior: people missing tests because they know they will be caught with steroids for example.

As to those moral heroes above: steroids are not the same as taking a couple of glucose tablets. Just like murder is not the same thing as stealing bread from the supermarket. You should be punished according to the gravity of the offense.
 

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Denisovich said:
Moxie629 said:
I'm still sympathetic to players who travel around the world and buy over-the-counter supplements that they don't have enough ability to vet. I'm giving some benefit of the doubt to Cilic. However, it is astonishing that Cilic failed a drug test, and is back on tour, after a few months ban, whereas Troicki, who failed to take one, however feeble his excuse, is still serving one. This is where ITF, at the very least, needs to be clearer about policy.

Actually, missing or refusing a test should be sanctioned the heaviest. Otherwise you could have strategic behavior: people missing tests because they know they will be caught with steroids for example.

As to those moral heroes above: steroids are not the same as taking a couple of glucose tablets. Just like murder is not the same thing as stealing bread from the supermarket. You should be punished according to the gravity of the offense.

I agree. The reason tennis offense are often magnified is that compared to the abuse in other sports, it is child's play. The list of banned substances is quite long, and the rules are quite strict. I know some cynics may argue other wise, but I feel most ATP players feel the risk is just not worth the reward.