Indian Wells - Semifinal #1 Dog vs. Master

[isabelle]

Federer in two. Dolgopolov's game isn't the kind which bothers Roger, even at this stage.

The Dog is much better than Stakhovsky, Delbonis and c°....and all those guys already beat Yougderer once so why not the Dog ???

 

[shawnbm]

I agree with tented. It is always the case that certain styles of play can bother certain players, but not the Dog when it comes to the Fed Express.

 

[Ilovetennis2]

Roger's record against Dolgos generation is near perfect (talking about Tomic, Milos, Grigor, Kei). I am thinking he will in 2 hard fought sets. Their previous match was not complete. Roger will have an adjustment period at the beginning, I am sure.

Federer was leading 6-4, 5-2 (this was a best of 3 match in Basel) and at this time
Dog retires. Whose fault is that the match was not complete? Further, look at the time
of retirement. One more game and the Master wins. This is the worst time to retire
for anyone.

To be fair to Dolgopolov, he hurt his ankle bad trying to get a ball back in that Basel match. You can't really blame the guy for retiring since he could barely walk, regardless of the score.

 

[tented]

Federer in two. Dolgopolov's game isn't the kind which bothers Roger, even at this stage.

The Dog is much better than Stakhovsky, Delbonis and c°....and all those guys already beat Yougderer once so why not the Dog ???

Ironically, it's precisely because Dolgopolov is better than Stakhovsky et al. that Federer will win. Dolgopolov's game has too many moving parts -- too many things can go wrong, and he won't know what to do once something goes awry.

 

[Riotbeard]

Federer in two. Dolgopolov's game isn't the kind which bothers Roger, even at this stage.

The Dog is much better than Stakhovsky, Delbonis and c°....and all those guys already beat Yougderer once so why not the Dog ???

Ironically, it's precisely because Dolgopolov is better than Stakhovsky et al. that Federer will win. Dolgopolov's game has too many moving parts -- too many things can go wrong, and he won't know what to do once something goes awry.

If the dog can make this about crosscourt backhand rallies, he has chance. That said, I picked Fed in 3.

 

[El Dude]

Roger's record against Dolgos generation is near perfect (talking about Tomic, Milos, Grigor, Kei). I am thinking he will in 2 hard fought sets. Their previous match was not complete. Roger will have an adjustment period at the beginning, I am sure.

Out of curiosity, why do you put Dolgopolov in that generation? He's going to be 26 later this year. Consider the following birth months and years:

5/87 - Djokovic, Murray
8/88 - Gulbis
9/88 - Del Potro
11/88 - Dolgopolov
12/89 - Nishikori
11/90 - Janowicz
12/90 - Raonic
5/91 - Dimitrov
8/92 - Tomic

Dolgopolov is the same age as Gulbis and Del Potro, a year older than Nishikori, and two years older than Janowicz and Raonic - almost four years older than Tomic.

Now it may be that tennis generations are better defined by when you started on the tour, and while Dolgo was playing qualifiers beforehand, he didn't really get going until 2010, when he was 21-22. That's the same year Raonic played in his first Slam, and a year after Tomic was on tour.

Also, while I like to talk about tennis generations, and have concluded that a five-year span is a good length of time for a generation, there's no clear cut-off that isn't artificial. That said, half-decades are as good as any, so I see Kei Nishikori as being the transitional player between the Nadal-Djokovic-Murray-Del Potro generation, and the Raonic-Janowicz-Dimitrov-Tomic-Vesely-Thiem generation, just as a Nick Kyrgios (born 8/95) may be the transitional player between that generation and the next one.

 

[Correspondent Kiu]

Master

versus

Dogo

 

[atttomole]

Which channels are showing the semifinals in the US and at what times? Yesterday they were shared between TC and ESPN, but can not see today's TV schedules.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

El Dude, there is always the years when you look at generations, but I don't always see it that way. It's the rivalries...Delpo is the same age as Dolgopolov, but somehow it does not feel that way to me. It is subjective of course, but Dolgo to me always feels like he belongs to the Milos, JJ generation as opposed to the Murray/Nole generation. Like I said, It is the rivalries, and it is subjective on my part.

 

[kskate2]

Master teaches dog old trick. :lolz:

 

[DarthFed]

So apparently there are 5 people who have beat Fed and Rafa in the same tournament. I only come up with 3:

Nole
Del Po
Nalbandian

Anyone know the other 2? I don't think Murray is one of them.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

So apparently there are 5 people who have beat Fed and Rafa in the same tournament. I only come up with 3:

Nole
Del Po
Nalbandian

Anyone know the other 2? I don't think Murray is one of them.

Did those 5 move on to win the tournament?

 

[DarthFed]

Nole did it at least three times (07 Toronto, IW '11 and '11 USO) and Nalbs did it twice (Madrid and Paris 2007). DP did it in USO 2009 so yes they all won the tourney.

 

[Front242]

Damn good pickup on that shot by Roger. Good start.

 

[Front242]

Hope the wind dies down soon.

 

[Luxilon Borg]

Carillo free day!!!!!!

 

[Front242]

Roger's getting a lot better on challenges! That was well out too. Bad the linesperson missed that.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Great camera angle on that rally...and a great backhand by the Dog

 

[Front242]

Some winner from Dolgo there.

 

[Front242]

Great camera angle on that rally...and a great backhand by the Dog

Yeah, nice angle alright although it only got good towards the end when Dolgo whacked that backhand. Looked like a practice session till then. No angles and hitting straight back to one another.