If Nole Matches, or even Surpasses Rog, but does not win the French...

El Dude

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I had similar questions, Luxilon Borg, although think the main problem is that we don't know what sort of player they would have been back then. Maybe they would have evolved differently?

So the only way to really speculate is to do so with the (probably false) assumption that they would have been the exact same player.

First of all, boy oh boy would it have been great to see Pete and Roger peaking at the same time. Can you imagine? My guess is that Pete would have had the edge at Wimbledon, Roger the edge on hards, and a big edge on clay. At the risk of sounding biased, Roger's game would have worked in any era, but if he played alongside a peak Sampras he probably would have won Wimby only 2-3 times, AO, FO and USO several times each. He probably would have had less total Slams--maybe 12-15--but a more even resume, maybe even a triple Career Slam.

As for Novak, I think he would have struggled more at Wimbledon and in the 90s in general. The sport was faster, with less attrition. Imagine him playing Roger in his prime, on the fastest surface on tour - that would be like playing Sampras at Wimbledon in the 90s. On the other hand, he would have utterly dominated the slower courts. As for Goran or Krajicek, I think we're going to see someone at some point beat Novak in a way that we can imagine Goran or Krajicek would have done, someone like Kyrgios or Fritz go up a level, and be able to beat Novak on faster surfaces with hard, sharp angled slices.

And Rafa...well, he would have been just as strong on clay and probably most hards, but probably significantly worse on grass and faster hards. I don't think he would have won Wimbledon in the 90s, except maybe once, at his very best.
 

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The thing with Pete was, he didn't tolerate any rivals. He was kingly in matches against men he knew would be considered historic rivals. The match I'd be most interested in is peak-Rafa versus peak-Pete. Maybe getting a neutral surface would be difficult, but that would be one evil, foul-smelling brawl...
 

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El Dude said:
I had similar questions, Luxilon Borg, although think the main problem is that we don't know what sort of player they would have been back then. Maybe they would have evolved differently?

So the only way to really speculate is to do so with the (probably false) assumption that they would have been the exact same player.

First of all, boy oh boy would it have been great to see Pete and Roger peaking at the same time. Can you imagine? My guess is that Pete would have had the edge at Wimbledon, Roger the edge on hards, and a big edge on clay. At the risk of sounding biased, Roger's game would have worked in any era, but if he played alongside a peak Sampras he probably would have won Wimby only 2-3 times, AO, FO and USO several times each. He probably would have had less total Slams--maybe 12-15--but a more even resume, maybe even a triple Career Slam.

As for Novak, I think he would have struggled more at Wimbledon and in the 90s in general. The sport was faster, with less attrition. Imagine him playing Roger in his prime, on the fastest surface on tour - that would be like playing Sampras at Wimbledon in the 90s. On the other hand, he would have utterly dominated the slower courts. As for Goran or Krajicek, I think we're going to see someone at some point beat Novak in a way that we can imagine Goran or Krajicek would have done, someone like Kyrgios or Fritz go up a level, and be able to beat Novak on faster surfaces with hard, sharp angled slices.

And Rafa...well, he would have been just as strong on clay and probably most hards, but probably significantly worse on grass and faster hards. I don't think he would have won Wimbledon in the 90s, except maybe once, at his very best.

I'm a big believer that if Fed and Sampras played at the same time assuming we are talking about peak Roger, and peak Pete, Roger dominates on every surface aside especially quick indoors or the old wimby grass.

He is just technically more proficient. Pete's eastern forehand grip would have been a big problem facing heavy topspin ground strokes, and backhands above his shoulder were a big problem. He had an excellent slice and a super backhand passing shot on low bouncing courts.

Roger just plays much higher percentage tennis. Pete could not survive today without a kick second serve something he just did not have.
 

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On the subject of whether court homogenisation has made it easier for Fedslovic to domiante, it will beintersting tosee what happens when these guys are gone. if the game then becomes doinated again by 2-3 players winning everyhitng, then it will suggest that court homogenidat