I Miss Roddick

[Fiero425]

I miss Roddick, too. One of my favorite moments:

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPgWoOon8-w[/video]

:snigger

Roddick is good with words, funny presser that one. Too bad he tried to physically attack Djokovic afterwards.

I hope he joins the commentary box at some point. Or get's a feature on a website or in a magazine or something.

I still don't know what that was all about! Was he just PO'd he lost to Nole with a lot of ailments? He's a jerk and I hope he leaves the stage permanently! Roddick is a throwback, which is why he didn't last longer at the top! These days you need more than a serve to compete! That "slash and burn" play blew it for him at his last Wimbledon possibility; missing that easy high volley at the net against Roger! He should feel fortunate having enough to win one USO! That's more than he deserved; I thought anyway!

Since when do you decide what Roddick deserves He's still one in a million talent and is more successful than you can ever be; so a bit more respect yeah?

And you bet, someone with only a serve doesn't get into major finals time after time. What a ridiculous statement!

No more than you trying to tell me what to think or post "bright guy!" :nono uzzled :huh: :angel: Next time, watch your punctuation; feel like your teacher making corrections! :gross: :nono :blush:

 

[brokenshoelace]

I miss Roddick, too. One of my favorite moments:

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPgWoOon8-w[/video]

:snigger

Roddick is good with words, funny presser that one. Too bad he tried to physically attack Djokovic afterwards.

I hope he joins the commentary box at some point. Or get's a feature on a website or in a magazine or something.

I still don't know what that was all about! Was he just PO'd he lost to Nole with a lot of ailments? He's a jerk and I hope he leaves the stage permanently! Roddick is a throwback, which is why he didn't last longer at the top! These days you need more than a serve to compete! That "slash and burn" play blew it for him at his last Wimbledon possibility; missing that easy high volley at the net against Roger! He should feel fortunate having enough to win one USO! That's more than he deserved; I thought anyway!

The funny part of the interview was the way Novak went out and kicked his arse after Andy spewed that line of crap. Andy was a one slam wonder, a consistent top ten player without the tools, brains, or fortitude to win the biggest matches.

A big no to the above.

Andy was without the tools to beat Roger Federer. Big difference. He's won plenty of big matches in his career. Also, winning one slam =/= one slam wonder, especially when you reach plenty of other slam finals, spend virtually your entire career in top 5/top 10, consistently beat the best players in the world, etc... A one slam wonder would be someone like the above-mentioned Gaudio.

I know some Novak fans don't like him due to some harsh comments he made about Djokovic (though they weren't exactly unjustified at the time, because Novak was, as Andy put it in the interview, "quick to call the trainer"), but get over it already.

Roddick actually leads the head to head 5-4 against Djokovic. He also kicked Djokovic's butt pretty badly a few months afterwards at the Australian open before Novak, ironically, and in an effort to prove him wrong no doubt, retired due to heat exhaustion or something. The only reason I bring up both that and the head to head is due to the "Djokovic kicked his ass at the US Open" comment, as if that's something to be ashamed of or that it was the norm for Roddick.

Roddick was a great athlete, had a big serve, a big forehand, and really good movement. Those alone are good enough tools to win majors. As far as fortitude goes, that was never the issue. He lost because he got outplayed, and yes, he did have his limitations (which is different than not having tools). Unless we're really going to hold one poor volley against him for the rest of his career, in which case we should nit-pick with every other player.

 

[Luxilon Borg]

These are some great tweets. He really brought something great to the sport.

Andy's La Monf Tweets

These tweets made my week.

 

[Ricardo]

I miss Roddick, too. One of my favorite moments:

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPgWoOon8-w[/video]

:snigger

Roddick is good with words, funny presser that one. Too bad he tried to physically attack Djokovic afterwards.

I hope he joins the commentary box at some point. Or get's a feature on a website or in a magazine or something.

I still don't know what that was all about! Was he just PO'd he lost to Nole with a lot of ailments? He's a jerk and I hope he leaves the stage permanently! Roddick is a throwback, which is why he didn't last longer at the top! These days you need more than a serve to compete! That "slash and burn" play blew it for him at his last Wimbledon possibility; missing that easy high volley at the net against Roger! He should feel fortunate having enough to win one USO! That's more than he deserved; I thought anyway!

The funny part of the interview was the way Novak went out and kicked his arse after Andy spewed that line of crap. Andy was a one slam wonder, a consistent top ten player without the tools, brains, or fortitude to win the biggest matches.

I miss Gaston Gaudio more.

no respect huh, you earned it.

I don't know what it is about Novak (who has a good character) that attracts all these sub-standard fans, just look at the nonsense you spewed out here.

One slam wonder without the tools, brains, or fortitude who got his arse kicked by Novak?

Just examine the above, this guy makes major finals and semis so many times but he is only the same one slam wonder like others (i.e. Gaudio) according to you? that's crap you spewed out right there.

No tools, brains, or fortitude to win the biggest matches? sure that's why he won USO and has beaten Novak and Murray in slams.

Got his arse kicked by Novak at USO? that's what I LOVE about Novak fans (like you and denisovich), they are truly blind and only see what they want to see. I mean, people like you must have forgotten that Andy kicked Novak's arse at AO only months later....... funny you never mention that? BHAHAHAHA, what can you expect from fans like this?

another dishonest word about..... you miss Gaudio more? really? you've never ever said you miss him one bit but all of a sudden he is a sweetheart, sure, it certainly complies with the rest of your nonsense.

 

[Ricardo]

I miss Roddick, too. One of my favorite moments:

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPgWoOon8-w[/video]

:snigger

Roddick is good with words, funny presser that one. Too bad he tried to physically attack Djokovic afterwards.

I hope he joins the commentary box at some point. Or get's a feature on a website or in a magazine or something.

I still don't know what that was all about! Was he just PO'd he lost to Nole with a lot of ailments? He's a jerk and I hope he leaves the stage permanently! Roddick is a throwback, which is why he didn't last longer at the top! These days you need more than a serve to compete! That "slash and burn" play blew it for him at his last Wimbledon possibility; missing that easy high volley at the net against Roger! He should feel fortunate having enough to win one USO! That's more than he deserved; I thought anyway!

Since when do you decide what Roddick deserves He's still one in a million talent and is more successful than you can ever be; so a bit more respect yeah?

And you bet, someone with only a serve doesn't get into major finals time after time. What a ridiculous statement!

No more than you trying to tell me what to think or post "bright guy!" :nono uzzled :huh: :angel: Next time, watch your punctuation; feel like your teacher making corrections! :gross: :nono :blush:

haha, just when you are taken apart and you come back with punctuations? REALLY? bhahahaha, i was expecting a bit more from you.... a bit more brain cells at least :lolz:

 

[nehmeth]

another dishonest word about..... you miss Gaudio more? really? you've never ever said you miss him one bit but all of a sudden he is a sweetheart.

No ricky, I do not miss Gaudio, but I miss him more than I miss Roddick. That's my way of saying that I'm glad Andy is retired. Yes, he made 4 finals (winning one) and 4 semifinals at slams. That's good. Stayed in the top 10 for quite some time. Also good.

Obviously you like Roddick (for whatever reason) and that's fine. And it's okay for people to not like him too.

As an American I watched him for years, early on because I was hopeful he'd carry on the legacy of champions from the USA. Later, because his matches were the ones shown here all the time. So I got to see way more than I wanted to. I thought he was a jerk the way he treated people - on and off the court. And it got tiresome hearing all the trash talk from a player that could only manage to punch through once when it counted. - Again, it's only my opinion.

One thing you cannot deny regarding Gaudio. He has a perfect record in slam finals.

 

[Ricardo]

another dishonest word about..... you miss Gaudio more? really? you've never ever said you miss him one bit but all of a sudden he is a sweetheart.

No ricky, I do not miss Gaudio, but I miss him more than I miss Roddick. That's my way of saying that I'm glad Andy is retired. Yes, he made 4 finals (winning one) and 4 semifinals at slams. That's good. Stayed in the top 10 for quite some time. Also good.

Obviously you like Roddick (for whatever reason) and that's fine. And it's okay for people to not like him too.

As an American I watched him for years, early on because I was hopeful he'd carry on the legacy of champions from the USA. Later, because his matches were the ones shown here all the time. So I got to see way more than I wanted to. I thought he was a jerk the way he treated people - on and off the court. And it got tiresome hearing all the trash talk from a player that could only manage to punch through once when it counted. - Again, it's only my opinion.

One thing you cannot deny regarding Gaudio. He has a perfect record in slam finals.

bottom line, Roddick is still 5-4 up on Novak so he can't be as useless as you described. You need to show some respect wether you like him or not, he's achieved more than you ever have no? besides, i don't know how you would accuse him of trash talk when you've done much of it (towards Fed and Roddick).

In case you don't know, i am not even american and didn't really follow his matches but it's obvious to see he had a serious game to begin with, only he stopped improving and actually went backwards. For you to write off this guy the way you did, couldn't be further from the truth...... and for what? just because you don't like the guy?

i didn't hear you complain when Novak said he was in control of the match when Nadal beat him in straight sets, so trash talk didn't matter because Novak said it yeah? way too biased :nono

bottom line, the guy is a high achiever and all you did was trash talking.

 

[nehmeth]

Ricky, you can defend Andy... that's fine. You can tell me to respect him... that's fine. You can lecture me all you want... that's fine too. I know he has a winning h2h with Novak. I know you think 4 finals and 4 semis is a lot.

I also know he plays better tennis than I do, although I wonder why you use that argument against people in so many posts across so many threads, since none of us are ATP players.

I don't miss him. I don't like him. I can think he's a jerk too. I can respect what he's accomplished, and still think his performance was lacking on the biggest stages.

 

[Ricardo]

Ricky, you can defend Andy... that's fine. You can tell me to respect him... that's fine. You can lecture me all you want... that's fine too. I know he has a winning h2h with Novak. I know you think 4 finals and 4 semis is a lot.

I also know he plays better tennis than I do, although I wonder why you use that argument against people in so many posts across so many threads, since none of us are ATP players.

I don't miss him. I don't like him. I can think he's a jerk too. I can respect what he's accomplished, and still think his performance was lacking on the biggest stages.

i actually agree, except you overstated it and cherry pick everything. If he was as crappy as you described, i'd think Novak would've done better than losing 4-5 against him.

Apart from the big 4, how many guys of his generation and even this era you know that have 4 finals and 4 semis? it is a lot.

 

[nehmeth]

I still don't know what that was all about! Was he just PO'd he lost to Nole with a lot of ailments? He's a jerk and I hope he leaves the stage permanently! Roddick is a throwback, which is why he didn't last longer at the top! These days you need more than a serve to compete! That "slash and burn" play blew it for him at his last Wimbledon possibility; missing that easy high volley at the net against Roger! He should feel fortunate having enough to win one USO! That's more than he deserved; I thought anyway!

The funny part of the interview was the way Novak went out and kicked his arse after Andy spewed that line of crap. Andy was a one slam wonder, a consistent top ten player without the tools, brains, or fortitude to win the biggest matches.

A big no to the above.

Andy was without the tools to beat Roger Federer. Big difference. He's won plenty of big matches in his career. Also, winning one slam =/= one slam wonder, especially when you reach plenty of other slam finals, spend virtually your entire career in top 5/top 10, consistently beat the best players in the world, etc..

Roddick actually leads the head to head 5-4 against Djokovic. He also kicked Djokovic's butt pretty badly a few months afterwards at the Australian open before Novak, ironically, and in an effort to prove him wrong no doubt, retired due to heat exhaustion or something. The only reason I bring up both that and the head to head is due to the "Djokovic kicked his ass at the US Open" comment, as if that's something to be ashamed of or that it was the norm for Roddick.

Roddick was a great athlete, had a big serve, a big forehand, and really good movement. Those alone are good enough tools to win majors. As far as fortitude goes, that was never the issue. He lost because he got outplayed, and yes, he did have his limitations (which is different than not having tools). Unless we're really going to hold one poor volley against him for the rest of his career, in which case we should nit-pick with every other player.

I like how you and ricardo are on the same page. Yes B.S. I know Andy has a h2h lead over Novak. Yes, I know Novak lost to him in Oz later. That was not my point. Andy said that bunch of B.S. about Novak before their match and then Novak went out there the next day and beat him. Then he stood up to the NYC crowd and took them on too... not his brightest moment. :nono

You think he had the tools - not enough obviously. I've watched more Roddick than I ever cared to - early out of interest and hope, later because he was American and our TV will always show the American before any other player - ranking never matters. I watched enough of him to know when he was going to choke, when he was going to lose the plot. Then I'd hear his interviews afterwards, sometimes funny, sometimes ignorant, sometimes contentious. I've watched him have his blow ups and his meltdowns.

So no, I personally don't think he had "it". Top ten? Sure. Top tier? Never. I thought he was a jerk. I also thought Connors and McEnroe were jerks too, but they had what Andy never had. You can disagree. That's what the boards are for.

 

[nehmeth]

i actually agree, except you overstated it and cherry pick everything. If he was as crappy as you described, i'd think Novak would've done better than losing 4-5 against him.

Apart from the big 4, how many guys of his generation and even this era you know that have 4 finals and 4 semis? it is a lot.

Ricky, Novak is 6-6 in slam finals - better than Andy's 1-4, but I also think Novak has severely underperformed in a number of those losses and have stated as much.

So, if instead of making excuses, I am willing to point out where my guy lacked the resolve (fortitude, stones, balls, whatever), how is it wrong for me to point out where I felt the same way about Andy.

Someone chose to post a video of Andy making the comments about Novak. Yes, I am aware of all the early withdrawals that he made earlier in his career. I am also aware that Novak did impressions of all Andy's "ticks", and the thin-skinned Roddick was probably using the press conference to fire some shots back. All understood. Fact is Novak went out the next day and let his racquet do they talking.

... and yes I know that in Oz a few months later, he withdrew while Andy was leading.

 

[Ricardo]

i actually agree, except you overstated it and cherry pick everything. If he was as crappy as you described, i'd think Novak would've done better than losing 4-5 against him.

Apart from the big 4, how many guys of his generation and even this era you know that have 4 finals and 4 semis? it is a lot.

Ricky, Novak is 6-6 in slam finals - better than Andy's 1-4, but I also think Novak has severely underperformed in a number of those losses and have stated as much.

So, if instead of making excuses, I am willing to point out where my guy lacked the resolve (fortitude, stones, balls, whatever), how is it wrong for me to point out where I felt the same way about Andy.

Someone chose to post a video of Andy making the comments about Novak. Yes, I am aware of all the early withdrawals that he made earlier in his career. I am also aware that Novak did impressions of all Andy's "ticks", and the thin-skinned Roddick was probably using the press conference to fire some shots back. All understood. Fact is Novak went out the next day and let his racquet do they talking.

... and yes I know that in Oz a few months later, he withdrew while Andy was leading.

So andy also went out and let his racquet do the talking, not something a guy lacking fortitude and tools would've done.

 

[nehmeth]

i actually agree, except you overstated it and cherry pick everything. If he was as crappy as you described, i'd think Novak would've done better than losing 4-5 against him.

Apart from the big 4, how many guys of his generation and even this era you know that have 4 finals and 4 semis? it is a lot.

Ricky, Novak is 6-6 in slam finals - better than Andy's 1-4, but I also think Novak has severely underperformed in a number of those losses and have stated as much.

So, if instead of making excuses, I am willing to point out where my guy lacked the resolve (fortitude, stones, balls, whatever), how is it wrong for me to point out where I felt the same way about Andy.

Someone chose to post a video of Andy making the comments about Novak. Yes, I am aware of all the early withdrawals that he made earlier in his career. I am also aware that Novak did impressions of all Andy's "ticks", and the thin-skinned Roddick was probably using the press conference to fire some shots back. All understood. Fact is Novak went out the next day and let his racquet do they talking.

... and yes I know that in Oz a few months later, he withdrew while Andy was leading.

So andy also went out and let his racquet do the talking, not something a guy lacking fortitude and tools would've done.

On the biggest stages? Only four trips to a final... only one win. NOT top tier. :nono

 

[Ricardo]

I still don't know what that was all about! Was he just PO'd he lost to Nole with a lot of ailments? He's a jerk and I hope he leaves the stage permanently! Roddick is a throwback, which is why he didn't last longer at the top! These days you need more than a serve to compete! That "slash and burn" play blew it for him at his last Wimbledon possibility; missing that easy high volley at the net against Roger! He should feel fortunate having enough to win one USO! That's more than he deserved; I thought anyway!

The funny part of the interview was the way Novak went out and kicked his arse after Andy spewed that line of crap. Andy was a one slam wonder, a consistent top ten player without the tools, brains, or fortitude to win the biggest matches.

A big no to the above.

Andy was without the tools to beat Roger Federer. Big difference. He's won plenty of big matches in his career. Also, winning one slam =/= one slam wonder, especially when you reach plenty of other slam finals, spend virtually your entire career in top 5/top 10, consistently beat the best players in the world, etc..

Roddick actually leads the head to head 5-4 against Djokovic. He also kicked Djokovic's butt pretty badly a few months afterwards at the Australian open before Novak, ironically, and in an effort to prove him wrong no doubt, retired due to heat exhaustion or something. The only reason I bring up both that and the head to head is due to the "Djokovic kicked his ass at the US Open" comment, as if that's something to be ashamed of or that it was the norm for Roddick.

Roddick was a great athlete, had a big serve, a big forehand, and really good movement. Those alone are good enough tools to win majors. As far as fortitude goes, that was never the issue. He lost because he got outplayed, and yes, he did have his limitations (which is different than not having tools). Unless we're really going to hold one poor volley against him for the rest of his career, in which case we should nit-pick with every other player.

I like how you and ricardo are on the same page. Yes B.S. I know Andy has a h2h lead over Novak. Yes, I know Novak lost to him in Oz later. That was not my point. Andy said that bunch of B.S. about Novak before their match and then Novak went out there the next day and beat him. Then he stood up to the NYC crowd and took them on too... not his brightest moment. :nono

You think he had the tools - not enough obviously. I've watched more Roddick than I ever cared to - early out of interest and hope, later because he was American and our TV will always show the American before any other player - ranking never matters. I watched enough of him to know when he was going to choke, when he was going to lose the plot. Then I'd hear his interviews afterwards, sometimes funny, sometimes ignorant, sometimes contentious. I've watched him have his blow ups and his meltdowns.

So no, I personally don't think he had "it". Top ten? Sure. Top tier? Never. I thought he was a jerk. I also thought Connors and McEnroe were jerks too, but they had what Andy never had. You can disagree. That's what the boards are for.

Just keep quiet. this thread is created by someone who obviously appreciated what Roddick brought to the game on and off the court, yet all you did was calling him a jerk so many times that i lost count and write him off with your obvious bias (no tools, fortitude etc). What's wrong with you? too much axe to grind obviously, but if you don't like him just DON'T BOTHER.

you obviously DON'T like that we pointed out your crap the same way, couldn't help it really.... you spewed crap pure and simple. Now you don't like what Roddick said at USO? wether or not Roddick was tongue in cheek or just voiced his opinion, HE WAS RIGHT. His point was clearly that, Novak tends to pack it in when things don't go well.... ironically Novak proved it for him only months later, and even more ironic it was against Roddick himself.

You simply have no case, one way or another.

 

[tented]

^ Don't tell people to be quiet. The whole point is to discuss topics in a discussion forum. If you don't like what someone posts, you don't have to respond, but everyone can voice their opinion.

 

[Ricardo]

^ Don't tell people to be quiet. The whole point is to discuss topics in a discussion forum. If you don't like what someone posts, you don't have to respond, but everyone can voice their opinion.

he used to tell people not to grind their axe on whatever, then he does it right here.

 

[nehmeth]

Just keep quiet.

I will, when you do.

 

[Ricardo]

Just keep quiet.

I will, when you do.

you think Roddick is jerk and no tools/fortitude? grind your axe somewhere else, there are other place you can trash him not here.

better still, your so called average top 10 player (Roddick) actually got no 1 ranking. I'll summarise for you, this guy has been no 1, won a major and been to 4 finals, has head to head 5-4 against your idol (novak is an all timer right?).... so how about you cut the crap?

 

[nehmeth]

Just keep quiet.

I will, when you do.

you think Roddick is jerk

Yes. And I also mentioned that I thought the same about Connors and McEnroe when they played, but that Roddick was not of the same quality as a competitor. You've become redundant with stats we already covered, but you did add a new fact. Andy did attain the #1 ranking... as did Moya, Ferrero, Rios, and Kafelnikov.

Andy Roddick: 13 weeks at #1.
John McEnroe: 170 weeks
Jimmy Connors: 268 weeks

and since you enjoy touting his h2h lead over him

Novak Djokovic: 101 weeks

 

[Ricardo]

Just keep quiet.

I will, when you do.

you think Roddick is jerk

Yes. And I also mentioned that I thought the same about Connors and McEnroe when they played, but that Roddick was not of the same quality as a competitor. You've become redundant with stats we already covered, but you did add a new fact. Andy did attain the #1 ranking... as did Moya, Ferrero, Rios, and Kafelnikov.

Andy Roddick: 13 weeks at #1.
John McEnroe: 170 weeks
Jimmy Connors: 268 weeks

and since you enjoy touting his h2h lead over him

Novak Djokovic: 101 weeks

good to see you trying to present an argument here, however brainless it is. First, nobody put him up there with the all time greats. But for you to dismiss him as any regular top tenner, it's unfounded and like many of the things you say it is stupid. No average top 10 player would end his career with no 1 ranking, having won a major and got into numerous finals. and your listing weeks at no 1 means what? are we comparing him to all timers or is it a thread opened for fellow tennis fans to enjoy whatever memories they have of him?

the title reads "i miss Roddick" and looking through your post, there is not a single good thing about him, it's been 'he is a jerk, hasn't got the tools, fortitude, BLA BLA BLA'..... what is your problem big mouth?

now that's good enough reason for you to shut it.