How many Wimbledon titles will Djokovic win in his career?

How many Wimbledon titles will Djokovic win in his career?


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If someone would have told you in 2010 that Novak were going to win 3 Wimbledon titles, you would have thought they were crazy
 

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Obsi said:
If someone told you in 2010 that Novak will end up with 3 Wimbledon titles, you'd say they're crazy.

True enough, but that was before we saw the decline of Roger and the breakdown of Rafa! You expected others to take their place, but as I've been saying, the rest of the tour has been "gutless" and unable to break the stranglehold of the "Top 3 or 4!" They've just about owned all major events for the past 10 years! It's obscene in so many ways because in my day, even players like Borg or McEnroe could be vulnerable; and were! You never feel that way these days; barely giving acknowledgement of a possibility of a breakthrough with "new bloods" like Kei, Milos, and Kygrios! :cover :nono :angel:
 

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Novak serve improves, while movement someday will come down. Clean shot and best ROS won't go away. I give him 4-5 titles.
 

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Fiero425 said:
Obsi said:
If someone told you in 2010 that Novak will end up with 3 Wimbledon titles, you'd say they're crazy.

True enough, but that was before we saw the decline of Roger and the breakdown of Rafa! You expected others to take their place, but as I've been saying, the rest of the tour has been "gutless" and unable to break the stranglehold of the "Top 3 or 4!" They've just about owned all major events for the past 10 years! It's obscene in so many ways because in my day, even players like Borg or McEnroe could be vulnerable; and were! You never feel that way these days; barely giving acknowledgement of a possibility of a breakthrough with "new bloods" like Kei, Milos, and Kygrios! :cover :nono :angel:

Ah so it's not just "Nole's time now". At least you're acknowledging Federer and Nadal have declined which is helping his cause no end :p

Anyway, I'd say best case scenario Novak matches Rafa's current 14, which would mean 5 more, worst case 2-3 more.
 

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More than Murray who is supposedly better than him on grass:nono
 

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My gut feeling (which is meaningless) is that he will win 1 more Australian Open, 1 more Wimbledon, and 1 more US Open.
 

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I see now I read the thread title incorrectly. Thought it was how many more slams will Novak win. So my 2-5 was slams, not Wimbledons. That said, I agree with Murat that he could win 2 more Wimbledons.
 

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I'd bet on one. But with how well he serves these days it might be two. His ROS is also so great that even when the movement starts to go (which is probably next year) he will still be very tough on grass.
 

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herios said:
More than Murray who is supposedly better than him on grass:nono
I do not think Murray is better than Djokovic on grass. I have never believed that at all.
 

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herios said:
More than Murray who is supposedly better than him on grass:nono

That's too harsh on Murray's fans. I really want to watch their rematch on grass. Novak lost big time in 2012 Olympic and 2013 W19 final.
 

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BIG3 said:
herios said:
More than Murray who is supposedly better than him on grass:nono

That's too harsh on Murray's fans. I really want to watch their rematch on grass. Novak lost big time in 2012 Olympic and 2013 W19 final.

That is in the past. Since then, Novak won to Wimbledon crowns and Andy went zippo. Overall Novak is the better grass player, sorry Bud.
 

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DarthFed said:
I'd bet on one. But with how well he serves these days it might be two. His ROS is also so great that even when the movement starts to go (which is probably next year) he will still be very tough on grass.

I'm inclined to agree with you on 1-2. However, I don't see why his movement is set to go next year, since he uses yoga and stretching to keep him limber. I get the OP's point that we'd have been surprised in 2010 to think he'd have 3 Wimbledon titles. The main reason he does is that he's just bloody better than everyone else, and his game translates to all surfaces, especially with the vastly improved serve. The downside is he'll be 29 next W, and the field improves, presumably. Grass is treacherous and unforgiving. In 3 years he'll be 31, and if there is no one to challenge/upset him on grass at that point, it would be a sad commentary on the state of the up-and-comers.
 

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Moxie629 said:
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I'd bet on one. But with how well he serves these days it might be two. His ROS is also so great that even when the movement starts to go (which is probably next year) he will still be very tough on grass.

I'm inclined to agree with you on 1-2. However, I don't see why his movement is set to go next year, since he uses yoga and stretching to keep him limber. I get the OP's point that we'd have been surprised in 2010 to think he'd have 3 Wimbledon titles. The main reason he does is that he's just bloody better than everyone else, and his game translates to all surfaces, especially with the vastly improved serve. The downside is he'll be 29 next W, and the field improves, presumably. Grass is treacherous and unforgiving. In 3 years he'll be 31, and if there is no one to challenge/upset him on grass at that point, it would be a sad commentary on the state of the up-and-comers.

I've been saying this for years; "catch up!" - :cover - :lolz: - :snicker - :laydownlaughing - :angel: - :dodgy: - :p - :ras: - :hug - :basiate
 

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Moxie629 said:
DarthFed said:
I'd bet on one. But with how well he serves these days it might be two. His ROS is also so great that even when the movement starts to go (which is probably next year) he will still be very tough on grass.

I'm inclined to agree with you on 1-2. However, I don't see why his movement is set to go next year, since he uses yoga and stretching to keep him limber. I get the OP's point that we'd have been surprised in 2010 to think he'd have 3 Wimbledon titles. The main reason he does is that he's just bloody better than everyone else, and his game translates to all surfaces, especially with the vastly improved serve. The downside is he'll be 29 next W, and the field improves, presumably. Grass is treacherous and unforgiving. In 3 years he'll be 31, and if there is no one to challenge/upset him on grass at that point, it would be a sad commentary on the state of the up-and-comers.

Even without injuries he has a ton of mileage on his legs. Almost all top players lose a step by his current age. Roger's movement was well on the decline by age 28. Lots of past champions too. Many became irrelevant by age 26-27. Next year Nole is 29, id be surprised if we don't see a clear drop by the end of the 2016 season.
 

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DarthFed said:
Moxie629 said:
DarthFed said:
I'd bet on one. But with how well he serves these days it might be two. His ROS is also so great that even when the movement starts to go (which is probably next year) he will still be very tough on grass.

I'm inclined to agree with you on 1-2. However, I don't see why his movement is set to go next year, since he uses yoga and stretching to keep him limber. I get the OP's point that we'd have been surprised in 2010 to think he'd have 3 Wimbledon titles. The main reason he does is that he's just bloody better than everyone else, and his game translates to all surfaces, especially with the vastly improved serve. The downside is he'll be 29 next W, and the field improves, presumably. Grass is treacherous and unforgiving. In 3 years he'll be 31, and if there is no one to challenge/upset him on grass at that point, it would be a sad commentary on the state of the up-and-comers.

Even without injuries he has a ton of mileage on his legs. Almost all top players lose a step by his current age. Roger's movement was well on the decline by age 28. Lots of past champions too. Many became irrelevant by age 26-27. Next year Nole is 29, id be surprised if we don't see a clear drop by the end of the 2016 season.

I'm not a fan of predicting decline. It'll come when it does. For sure Djokovic's movement served him today, as it often does. He was slipping and still getting to shots on the other side of the court. This doesn't last forever. But he does protect himself with flexibility, which I think will give him the extra year or two.
 

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So, this year Novak overthrew the King of Clay from his beloved Terre Battue and also overthrew the King of Grass from his beloved Greener Pastures. :clap :clap
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
So, this year Novak overthrew the King of Clay from his beloved Terre Battue and also overthrew the King of Grass from his beloved Greener Pastures. :clap :clap

You have to be careful about the gloating here because of the timing. Djokovic tried 6 times to beat a great/reasonably good Nadal at RG, and couldn't do it. Yes, he beat Nadal this year. I don't think that anyone would even call that surprising, given Rafa's year.

Djokovic never got to try against prime Federer at Wimbledon. Their only 2 meetings on grass were the last 2 years. It's not Novak's fault that his prime didn't coincide with those of Fed and Nadal, especially in those specific tournaments, but it's not quite worth crowing about.
 

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Moxie629 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
So, this year Novak overthrew the King of Clay from his beloved Terre Battue and also overthrew the King of Grass from his beloved Greener Pastures. :clap :clap

You have to be careful about the gloating here because of the timing. Djokovic tried 6 times to beat a great/reasonably good Nadal at RG, and couldn't do it. Yes, he beat Nadal this year. I don't think that anyone would even call that surprising, given Rafa's year.

Djokovic never got to try against prime Federer at Wimbledon. Their only 2 meetings on grass were the last 2 years. It's not Novak's fault that his prime didn't coincide with those of Fed and Nadal, especially in those specific tournaments, but it's not quite worth crowing about.

It's not gloating if Nole's been backing it up! That's absolutely ridiculous to even invoke that FO crap! I remember years ago the so called experts said one stupid thing after another about Nole and his rivalries with Roger and Rafa! He wasn't supposed to beat either in the majors in best of 5, he couldn't beat Nadal on any clay court, blah, blah, blah! Year after year he knocked down all those consensus thoughts on the subject! They've been going down the drain since 2011 so please don't single out Nole's beat down of Rafa on this last occasion just because he's supposed down! Nole was down before getting his breathing fixed and going to a gluten-free diet! Did anyone give him the benefit of the doubt for competing under those circumstances way back when? I think not! :p :ras: :dodgy:
 

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I think Djokovic is good for two more. And 5~7 more Slams. So it will be very interesting to see if he can reach Nadal during that time. Who add more to his own collection, you never know.

And about Murray. After what I saw at this Wimbledon, I think I always hoped he would be better, but you never know until you play the match. Well, the way I hope has now shifted. I no longer hope that Murray will get better than Federer or Djokovic or Nadal, that just isn't going to happen. But Murray could still win a couple more Slams if everything falls into place like they did for him in his first two Slam wins. That's where he's at and I don't seem him improving on that status in the future. It is what it is. He's still my favorite and I'll be rooting for him of course, but I'm not going to get that disappointed when he falls to the Top Three. He's had a very solid season and it would be fantastic to see him win the USO or WTF. But a lot would have to fall his way for that to happen now.