High level match fixing in tennis

[nehmeth]

Nole said someone asked him to lose once but he of course refused. Clément refused too. Can't wait to have the cheater's list. It could be surprising

It was before the St. Petersburg tournament. Novak chose not to even play in the tournament after being approached.

Would be nice to have the list and just get the thing over with.

 

[Kieran]

I wonder who Novak reported this to and what was done about it.

I dunno who we can point the finger at from the past. Or the present. This is murky water stuff. It seems the players don't think it's a big deal but at the same time nobody knows the extent of it. The sanctions should be immediate and irrevocable. Seriously, tennis needs to develop a zero tolerance mentality with this kind of thing, and doping, and whatever other illegal activities could literally destroy the sport...

 

[GameSetAndMath]

ATP is going to be in serious trouble. British Parliament has decided to independently
investigate matchfixing. This is apparently because British PM is a tennis player and fan.

 

[isabelle]

According to l'Equipe, a Latinos retired player said everybody knew but nothing happened to stop that. he understood it was true when a guy gave him the winner of the next 2 tourneys and he talked about MS, not a small 250 . Don't know who is this guy but ATT asked him to contact them to share his infos

 

[nehmeth]

ATP is going to be in serious trouble. British Parliament has decided to independently
investigate matchfixing. This is apparently because British PM is a tennis player and fan.

I wonder if that will be taken up after they finish debating whether to ban Donald Trump from the UK. :snicker

 

[Kieran]

The BBC has echoed what Isabelle said about a Latin American ex-player who said it's an "open secret." I think that players who say things now have to name names, and not be coy about it. I'm sure that Novak and others are reporting approaches made to them, to the authorities, but how come we're not hearing about it? How come nothing has come of it, if high profile players are involved?

And what's the ATP Players Councils role in this, both in terms of investigation, and also in terms of protecting the sport?

I'm glad that British MPs are going to investigate this. Here's an article about the sort of questions they should ask...

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

According to l'Equipe, a Latinos retired player said everybody knew but nothing happened to stop that. he understood it was true when a guy gave him the winner of the next 2 tourneys and he talked about MS, not a small 250 . Don't know who is this guy but ATT asked him to contact them to share his infos

How can you know the winner of a tournament???? I mean sure, you can guess Nole, Rafa or Roger and you have a good chance of being right, but what this guy is saying is that the whole draw is rigged. Because for someone to know beforehand, every round has to be rigged.Everybody has to be in on it. Because otherwise how will you know who will play whom in the third round let's say? Every round has to be carefully choreographed , on both sides of the draw. I don't buy it.

 

[mrzz]

^I second that... probably something was amplified from the "Latinos" player original words to the printed version.

Brazilian media reported that braz player João Souza said (as others) that everyone knows that, and due to small prizes on the challenger tour guys ranked bellow #100 often accept it.

Incidentally, Federer said a few days ago that he thought prize money should go up for middle rounds and smaller tournaments, so maybe he already knew something about the ongoing investigations.

 

[ftan]

According to l'Equipe, a Latinos retired player said everybody knew but nothing happened to stop that. he understood it was true when a guy gave him the winner of the next 2 tourneys and he talked about MS, not a small 250 . Don't know who is this guy but ATT asked him to contact them to share his infos

How can you know the winner of a tournament???? I mean sure, you can guess Nole, Rafa or Roger and you have a good chance of being right, but what this guy is saying is that the whole draw is rigged. Because for someone to know beforehand, every round has to be rigged.Everybody has to be in on it. Because otherwise how will you know who will play whom in the third round let's say? Every round has to be carefully choreographed , on both sides of the draw. I don't buy it.

I was thinking the same, shudnt he be saying who will not win

 

[Kieran]

This story is gathering steam, but steam isn't substance! World #1 Djoker has had to deny he was involved in fixing a match at the Paris masters in 2007:

http://www.skysports.com/share/10137449

 

[GameSetAndMath]

This story is gathering steam, but steam isn't substance! World #1 Djoker has had to deny he was involved in fixing a match at the Paris masters in 2007:

http://www.skysports.com/share/10137449

Yes, apparently he was asked bluntly and unexpectedly about it in a press conference.

 

[nehmeth]

This one is a more thorough piece, explaining why the authorities never followed up on his 2007 loss to Fabrice Santoro.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-3408645/Novak-Djokovic-denies-absurd-allegations-deliberately-lost-match-Fabrice-Santoro.html

- Prior to the tournament, Djoker had his wisdom teeth removed. He hadn't practiced for a whole week and was still on medication.

- The Cremona investigation handled by police authorities in northern Italy began with soccer and spilled over into tennis. They didn't even bother with pursuing Djokovic.

- Tennis Integrity Unit met twice with Cremona and also recognized Djokovic's physical condition was behind his loss.

This is why names should be named so that these kind of stories aren't popping up about other players who weren't involved.

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[Kieran]

Exactly. This is why the "steam isn't substance." The arbitrary name calling and speculation is harmful. We've seen it in other things too. The TIU needs to show it actually has integrity and start taking a lead in this. Likewise the players who mumble under their breath about it: name names, but even more important, bring some proof to the table. Otherwise we get silliness like this, which is unnecessary...

 

[GameSetAndMath]

This one is a more thorough piece, explaining why the authorities never followed up on his 2007 loss to Fabrice Santoro.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-3408645/Novak-Djokovic-denies-absurd-allegations-deliberately-lost-match-Fabrice-Santoro.html

- Prior to the tournament, Djoker had his wisdom teeth removed. He hadn't practiced for a whole week and was still on medication.

- The Cremona investigation handled by police authorities in northern Italy began with soccer and spilled over into tennis. They didn't even bother with pursuing Djokovic.

- Tennis Integrity Unit met twice with Cremona and also recognized Djokovic's physical condition was behind his loss.

This is why names should be named so that these kind of stories aren't popping up about other players who weren't involved.

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In related news, Federer vehemently denied throwing 2008 Wimbledon finals to Rafa. Roger said it is well known that he was suffering form Mono in 2008 and so could not give a better fight to Rafa especially in the early parts of the match.

 

[isabelle]

According to l'Equipe, a Latinos retired player said everybody knew but nothing happened to stop that. he understood it was true when a guy gave him the winner of the next 2 tourneys and he talked about MS, not a small 250 . Don't know who is this guy but ATT asked him to contact them to share his infos

How can you know the winner of a tournament???? I mean sure, you can guess Nole, Rafa or Roger and you have a good chance of being right, but what this guy is saying is that the whole draw is rigged. Because for someone to know beforehand, every round has to be rigged.Everybody has to be in on it. Because otherwise how will you know who will play whom in the third round let's say? Every round has to be carefully choreographed , on both sides of the draw. I don't buy it.

You can know the name of the winner when it's fixed I guess...that's what the ex Latinos player (now a coach) said

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Potential matchfixing rears its ugly head again. This time it is not about some old matches.
This is a match played on sunday at AO'16. This time the names are made public. It is not
a high level match. It is a mixed doubles first round match. A betting company had to suspend
betting on this match due to unusual betting behavious, which tends to indicate that the match
is fixed. Read more from this NY times article.