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Possible third round match of Nadal/Rosol! That could be fun. Rosol will learn how aberrant the Wimbledon match was.
britbox said:Going back to 2011 - I actually thought that was the worst I'd seen Nadal play in a French Open Final. He was there for the taking. If Federer had held his nerve and not had the historic H2H imbalance hanging over him, he'd have had a shot at pulling off an upset.
tented said:Possible third round match of Nadal/Rosol! That could be fun. Rosol will learn how aberrant the Wimbledon match was.
tented said:britbox said:Going back to 2011 - I actually thought that was the worst I'd seen Nadal play in a French Open Final. He was there for the taking. If Federer had held his nerve and not had the historic H2H imbalance hanging over him, he'd have had a shot at pulling off an upset.
It was quite close, until the fourth set. Didn't Roger have a set point in the first? The second went to a tiebreak, he won the third, and then ... well, we know the rest.
britbox said:Going back to 2011 - I actually thought that was the worst I'd seen Nadal play in a French Open Final. He was there for the taking. If Federer had held his nerve and not had the historic H2H imbalance hanging over him, he'd have had a shot at pulling off an upset.
huntingyou said:britbox said:Going back to 2011 - I actually thought that was the worst I'd seen Nadal play in a French Open Final. He was there for the taking. If Federer had held his nerve and not had the historic H2H imbalance hanging over him, he'd have had a shot at pulling off an upset.
Not sure about that. It was Rafa's worst performance in a final but Roger had something to do with that. He kept him off balance a little bit. I feel even if Roger happens to win the fist two sets.......at his age, the constant pounding on his backhand will take a toll eventually. Because of this, I never see Roger as a threat at RG........ For me, it's a matter of how close he can stay to him in the scoreboard.
Very good post. Monfil-Berdych will be interesting. Hope Monfil gets hot and do the job. If not Ferrer can beat Berdy in QF.tenisplayrla08 said:Well Fed really caught a break this year. Not that he hasn't before. But the way he's playing, it's a welcome break. And more than that, his draw to the quarters looks absolutely, positively, completely clear. There's like nobody there. Unless the two qualifiers he has to start with are really hot, I don't see him losing. Benneteau has beaten him this year. But Benneteau isn't as good on clay as he is on hard courts. And even if he was better on clay than on hard courts, this is a slam so Fed is not likely to lose to him even if it was a three set match, but it's a five set match so he's almost guaranteed to take Benneteau out IF Benneteau even makes it to Fed. Berankis and Kamke MIGHT worry me more actually. Two younger guns who, if they got hot, MIGHT be able to bother Fed in his current state, which is sort of up in the air. He hasn't been good all year, but he showed signs of life last week. Simon might be able to test him in the fourth round, if he makes it. I doubt Tsonga makes it to the quarters. And if he does, on clay Fed can take him out no problem.
I'm hoping Gulbis beats Berdych, IF Monfils doesn't get hot and do it for him. But because that's not likely, though I think it quite possible, Ferrer would likely beat Berdych in the quarters anyways and Fed masters Ferrer, even if Ferrer is playing some of the best tennis of his career.
It really seems like Fed has a clear path to the final. BUT, this year, how well he'll play is in question. He's been really struggling and I really gotta say I'm worried about him. But this is the best possible draw for him to make the final. I mean, if he doesn't have to play anyone until the semis and he does get Berdych, I still like his chances.
Fed has a dream draw compares to the other top seeds . if everything holds to form, Fed is not making it past Tsonga or Berdych, IMOEl Dude said:Roger's draw isn't as easy as some are making it out to be. 1R and 2R should be easy but then he faces one of his nemeses in Benneteau in the 3R, Tsonga in the QF, and possibly Berdych (or Ferrer) in SF. I can't say I'm looking forward to the prospect of a Fedal Final.
britbox said:Darth, seeing as he's avoiding Nadal and Djokovic how is it laughable to suggest he's got a decent shot at making the final?
DarthFed said:britbox said:Darth, seeing as he's avoiding Nadal and Djokovic how is it laughable to suggest he's got a decent shot at making the final?
Of course he has a decent shot, but it is far from a given as some are saying. The main thing of course was where Nadal landed and then if you're Federer the 2nd main thing was where Berdych landed. If Fed doesn't face Berd Id say he has a good chance to make it
DarthFed said:britbox said:Darth, seeing as he's avoiding Nadal and Djokovic how is it laughable to suggest he's got a decent shot at making the final?
Of course he has a decent shot, but it is far from a given as some are saying. The main thing of course was where Nadal landed and then if you're Federer the 2nd main thing was where Berdych landed. If Fed doesn't face Berd Id say he has a good chance to make it
Mog said:Very good post. Monfil-Berdych will be interesting. Hope Monfil gets hot and do the job. If not Ferrer can beat Berdy in QF.tenisplayrla08 said:Well Fed really caught a break this year. Not that he hasn't before. But the way he's playing, it's a welcome break. And more than that, his draw to the quarters looks absolutely, positively, completely clear. There's like nobody there. Unless the two qualifiers he has to start with are really hot, I don't see him losing. Benneteau has beaten him this year. But Benneteau isn't as good on clay as he is on hard courts. And even if he was better on clay than on hard courts, this is a slam so Fed is not likely to lose to him even if it was a three set match, but it's a five set match so he's almost guaranteed to take Benneteau out IF Benneteau even makes it to Fed. Berankis and Kamke MIGHT worry me more actually. Two younger guns who, if they got hot, MIGHT be able to bother Fed in his current state, which is sort of up in the air. He hasn't been good all year, but he showed signs of life last week. Simon might be able to test him in the fourth round, if he makes it. I doubt Tsonga makes it to the quarters. And if he does, on clay Fed can take him out no problem.
I'm hoping Gulbis beats Berdych, IF Monfils doesn't get hot and do it for him. But because that's not likely, though I think it quite possible, Ferrer would likely beat Berdych in the quarters anyways and Fed masters Ferrer, even if Ferrer is playing some of the best tennis of his career.
It really seems like Fed has a clear path to the final. BUT, this year, how well he'll play is in question. He's been really struggling and I really gotta say I'm worried about him. But this is the best possible draw for him to make the final. I mean, if he doesn't have to play anyone until the semis and he does get Berdych, I still like his chances.
If Roger gets to final against Djokovic, it is not given to Roger but I think it is doable and Roger can win. Against Nadal i don't see his chances atall.
tented said:DarthFed said:britbox said:Darth, seeing as he's avoiding Nadal and Djokovic how is it laughable to suggest he's got a decent shot at making the final?
Of course he has a decent shot, but it is far from a given as some are saying. The main thing of course was where Nadal landed and then if you're Federer the 2nd main thing was where Berdych landed. If Fed doesn't face Berd Id say he has a good chance to make it
I don't think of Berdych as a threat at RG, vs. faster surfaces like Wimbledon and the USO.
the AntiPusher said:Fed has a dream draw compares to the other top seeds . if everything holds to form, Fed is not making it past Tsonga or Berdych, IMOEl Dude said:Roger's draw isn't as easy as some are making it out to be. 1R and 2R should be easy but then he faces one of his nemeses in Benneteau in the 3R, Tsonga in the QF, and possibly Berdych (or Ferrer) in SF. I can't say I'm looking forward to the prospect of a Fedal Final.
Berdych has a rough draw . Monfils and potentially Cali's favorite fh, Ernie Gulbis..
I dont think Rafa will be facing Lucas R the clown but if so, I would truly welcome that challenge
shawnbm said:This draw is practically perfect. The only way it could be better is if Dimitrov were in Ferrer's corner, beat him and faced Fed in the semis (if he gets past Tsonga). Nadal versus Nole and then the two one-handed BHers in the other. The BEST would be Novak versus Roger in the final; just think of the history. Djokovic would be playing to complete the career slam to match Roger and Rafa, whilst Federer would be trying to become the first in the Open Era to win the four majors at least twice over his career. Either way, it would be so historic. That is really what I hope for and I believe Nole beats Nadal if they get to the semis. Federer is the question mark for me.