I'd like to see Federer go it alone for a while. I think he needs to know that his results, good or bad, are attributable to only him. I know for a fact Annacone wasn't responsible for Fed's loss to a guy like Robredo, and now the next time Federer embarrasses himself he has only the mirror to look at.
Federer and coach Annacone split up.
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BalaryKar said:
The "in case" part is pretty big. She has a very young family, so I cannot believe she'd want to travel the world (again!), and with Federer of all people. If she does coach, I think it'll be after her kids are grown up and I think it'll need to be a more worthwhile endeavor than helping a veteran add to 17 slam titles. I mean, I think coaches are generally more interested in developing unfulfilled potential stars. I agree Graf will make a great coach, because she is so disciplined, driven and seemingly intelligent. I got some insight into her from reading Agassi's "Open" autobiography.
Can't you come up with something better than Olderer? That's the worst bad nickname I've ever seen. It's embarrassing really.
I've heard these so far:
Retirer
Olderer
Backerer
Cripplerer
Shankerer
UnforcedErrorer
Nadal'sbunnyerer
I always just call him Federer. I never use nicknames. I don't even use Rafa for Nadal.
Retirer
Olderer
Backerer
Cripplerer
Shankerer
UnforcedErrorer
Nadal'sbunnyerer
I always just call him Federer. I never use nicknames. I don't even use Rafa for Nadal.
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Ilovetennis2 said:
Sorry I didn't "create" it, just saw it on mtf. No lack of respect with it, a lot of people call Baghdatis Bagman, Ferrer is Ferru, Nalbandian is Nalby, Moya is Charlie or Lord Carlos, Tsonga is Kinder Bueno, Monfils is La Monf...when you're famous, you can't stop people from giving you a nickname, just a proof that you're popular, nothing more
But if you prefer Mr Vavrinec to name Federer, please let me know. the worst bad nickname I read about Federer is Declinerer, it's unfair, I don't like it at all.
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isabelle said:
No..if you respected Federer you wouldn't call him olderer..you'd call him the fedster or fed or roger or woger..
to go along with your non believable theme you'd also be ok calling nalbandian 'fat dave' or nadal 'the dirtball junkie' or 'the topspin monkey'. and claim that no lack of respect was in evidence.
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Here is an article by Peter Bodo in which he discusses the split up
and also some interview he had with Paul.
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/10/roger-federer-intrerview-coach-paul-annacone/49491/
and also some interview he had with Paul.
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/10/roger-federer-intrerview-coach-paul-annacone/49491/
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JesuslookslikeBorg. said:
You make the right distinction between nick-names and disparaging names.
@isabelle: I'm sure your English is good enough to know the difference. There is no need for you to insult Federer fans by calling him "Olderer" or "Declinerer," etc. It doesn't matter that you've read it on other sites. You have used it to the point of boredom. It's not clever, and it's insulting to Federer's fans. Unless you come up with something unique and original, I'd suggest you go back to the traditional appellations.
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Regarding the interview Pete Bodo had with Anacone
I must agree with Anacone that Roger is a student of the game
Roger has hit a bumpy patch and now it will be up to Roger how he get's over this 'bump'
I must agree with Anacone that Roger is a student of the game
Roger has hit a bumpy patch and now it will be up to Roger how he get's over this 'bump'
Federer is a student of history, in that he aims to beat records etc.
But he seems to play off instinct rather than varying his strategy to beat his opponent, so I'm not convinced that he is a "student of the game". A "student of the game" would have adapted his strategy a lot more when challenged.
But he seems to play off instinct rather than varying his strategy to beat his opponent, so I'm not convinced that he is a "student of the game". A "student of the game" would have adapted his strategy a lot more when challenged.
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The player Roger has failed to adapt to is Rafa, but even when he has adapted, he's not necessarily improved his results. Rafa is the exceptional player of this era, in that regard. But none of this means Roger isn't a student of the game. I've read his analysis of his own matches in plenty of post-match interviews and he's way ahead of the game in knowing what went on, and what didn't.
Also, I wouldn't call him an intuitive, or instinctive, player. It's not like he's making it up as he goes along out there, playing off base instinct alone. Sure, when he reaches a certain level his instincts are near infallible on court. But he's also crafty and incisive, strategically aloof maybe but tactically sound in tight corners. As well as this, he went without a coach after 2003 and won 3 slams in 2004. He knows what he wants, and how to get it.
Tennis nous isn't an issue for Roger Federer...
Also, I wouldn't call him an intuitive, or instinctive, player. It's not like he's making it up as he goes along out there, playing off base instinct alone. Sure, when he reaches a certain level his instincts are near infallible on court. But he's also crafty and incisive, strategically aloof maybe but tactically sound in tight corners. As well as this, he went without a coach after 2003 and won 3 slams in 2004. He knows what he wants, and how to get it.
Tennis nous isn't an issue for Roger Federer...
You wouldn't call Federer an intuitive or instinctive player? Being strategically aloof is very much that. You can become best in the world with your base instinct guiding you, as long as you have developed your technique and your fitness. Look at Gasquet. He plays off instinct but fails because he is NOT a technically great player outside of his backhand. Look at Nalbandian. He plays off instinct but fails because he is not fit enough (resulting in lazy or lethargic footwork). Federer had the technique, the fitness and played off instinct.
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No, when I say he's "aloof strategically" I'm basically saying he prefers to stick to what he knows, unlike Rafa, say, who's made long term adjustments in his game as a strategy for conquering every obstacle. Roger's gifts were more broad and all-encompassing - the only hurdle he's never really overcome is his historical rival, and I would suggest that to do this would require a huge strategic overhaul of his training and coaching.
None of this is to accuse Roger of being merely or mainly intuitive. McEnroe was more the type you're thinking of. Roger is too shrewd and calculating a player for that, and this is part of the reason why he's endured so well...
EDIT: Roger most likely looked at every option for tearing down Rafa and decided that they still may not work, so best to play the cards he has. But it's not like he's been entirely passive in dealing with the problem, either...
None of this is to accuse Roger of being merely or mainly intuitive. McEnroe was more the type you're thinking of. Roger is too shrewd and calculating a player for that, and this is part of the reason why he's endured so well...
EDIT: Roger most likely looked at every option for tearing down Rafa and decided that they still may not work, so best to play the cards he has. But it's not like he's been entirely passive in dealing with the problem, either...
^ I'll agree to disagree. Federer and McEnroe are both prime examples of instinctual/intuitive players. The difference being, Federer immersed himself in tennis and was driven by achievements. McEnroe was a rebel.
