Djokovic will be seeded #1 for Wimbledon

[mrzz]

So, does that mean there will be more than 32 seeds? It is a bit confusing.

From Iona16's post:

"The seeds are the top 32 players on the ATP Entry System Position (ESP), BUT then rearranged on a surface-based system."

And it still doesn't answer the question of who will have the honor on the women's side, since Bartoli is not defending.

The same post says that ladies follow, in principle, the rankings.

Greetings from world cup-land.

 

[Pacey]

I think being seed #2 is good for Nadal. He can somehow release some pressure. Nadal always play good as No.2 (both seeding and ATP ranking), that's what I feel. Last year result is bad, but if people judge his performance on grass base on that, they could be wrong. Remember he won 2 times here.

 

[Moxie]

I think being seed #2 is good for Nadal. He can somehow release some pressure. Nadal always play good as No.2 (both seeding and ATP ranking), that's what I feel. Last year result is bad, but if people judge his performance on grass base on that, they could be wrong. Remember he won 2 times here.

Welcome, Pacey! I would tend to agree that being the #2 seed probably works for Nadal, especially given the poor results of the last 2 years. I also agree that we have no idea what Rafa will bring to Wimbledon this year. I certainly wish I did.

 

[August]

AW: RE: Djokovic will be seeded #1 for Wimbledon

But it's the defending champion who plays first, isn't that right? Not the #1 seed. Someone was asking who will play first for the women: last year's runner up, or the previous champion, which I believe was Serena?

Women's defending champ usually opens the day 2 on CC.

Ok, sorry, can you clarify, I may have misunderstood. Nadal is #1 ATP, and I thought all grand slam seeding committed are loathe to do anything different than go by the rankings. They tried it in the 90s and there was a massive backlash and a proposed boycott for the Championships, most vocal were Coretjja and Muster.

So you are saying they have decided to do grass court seeding. Sorry for seeming out of it. I just assumed world rankings were used across the board.

Only Wimbledon does it. (See Iona's formula on the previous page.) It makes sense, given how little grass tennis gets played. There was some talk last year about changing Nadal's seeding for RG (given that he was ranked about #4-5 at the time,) but that was just a bunch of palaver.

Ok, got it. I don't agree with it. I thought after getting such a backlash years ago they would just bag it.

Remember this debacle?????!!

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/08/23/sports/officials-draw-criticism-and-redo-men-s-open.html

The US Open in 1996 did not follow the ATP rankings...

The 32 highest-ranked players get seeded, even if some players ranked lower would get more points with the seeding formula. I think that was to prevent protests from players who'd lose their seeding to lower-ranked grass specialists.

Also, I prefer the system Wimbledon has for the ATP over the system for the WTA. The formula for the ATP is mathematical whereas the WTA system is based only on assessment, enabling rigging the seedings.

So, does that mean there will be more than 32 seeds? It is a bit confusing.

And it still doesn't answer the question of who will have the honor on the women's side, since Bartoli is not defending.

Completely forgot women's champ has retired. When Nadal didn't defend his title in 2009, the previous year's runner-up and #1 seed Federer played first. So Lisicki or Serena should begin the 2nd day, I guess Serena.

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[Kieran]

Ok, got it. I don't agree with it. I thought after getting such a backlash years ago they would just bag it.

Remember this debacle?????!!

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/08/23/sports/officials-draw-criticism-and-redo-men-s-open.html

The US Open in 1996 did not follow the ATP rankings...

That's a long time ago, but even then, shifty, shady Dre benefited. That was the year of the most nationalistic Olympics since Hitler, where Agassi should have been turfed out of the Games for his behaviour against Wayne Ferreira, but typically got away with it. There's other stuff, but I'd forgotten that the USTA rigged the US Open draw to suit a reprobate... :nono

 

[tented]

I think being seed #2 is good for Nadal. He can somehow release some pressure. Nadal always play good as No.2 (both seeding and ATP ranking), that's what I feel. Last year result is bad, but if people judge his performance on grass base on that, they could be wrong. Remember he won 2 times here.

I agree. Being No. 1 has occasionally seemed to give Rafa an edginess, so being seeded No. 2 could be better for him.

Welcome to the forum, Pacey!

 

[herios]

I think being seed #2 is good for Nadal. He can somehow release some pressure. Nadal always play good as No.2 (both seeding and ATP ranking), that's what I feel. Last year result is bad, but if people judge his performance on grass base on that, they could be wrong. Remember he won 2 times here.

I agree. Being No. 1 has occasionally seemed to give Rafa an edginess, so being seeded No. 2 could be better for him.

As far as I remember, last year he was not seeded #1, no?

 

[tented]

I think being seed #2 is good for Nadal. He can somehow release some pressure. Nadal always play good as No.2 (both seeding and ATP ranking), that's what I feel. Last year result is bad, but if people judge his performance on grass base on that, they could be wrong. Remember he won 2 times here.

I agree. Being No. 1 has occasionally seemed to give Rafa an edginess, so being seeded No. 2 could be better for him.

As far as I remember, last year he was not seeded #1, no?

Correct. He was No. 5.

I didn't say it was a cure all, but it can't hurt. Or at least he certainly can't do worse than he did last year.

 

[Luxilon Borg]

Ok, got it. I don't agree with it. I thought after getting such a backlash years ago they would just bag it.

Remember this debacle?????!!

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/08/23/sports/officials-draw-criticism-and-redo-men-s-open.html

The US Open in 1996 did not follow the ATP rankings...

That's a long time ago, but even then, shifty, shady Dre benefited. That was the year of the most nationalistic Olympics since Hitler, where Agassi should have been turfed out of the Games for his behaviour against Wayne Ferreira, but typically got away with it. There's other stuff, but I'd forgotten that the USTA rigged the US Open draw to suit a reprobate... :nono

Well, yeh.

But i really think going by ATP world rankings avoids all non sense and controversy.

 

[Kieran]

Here's the confirmation:

Gentlemen’s Singles
DJOKOVIC, Novak (SRB) [1]
NADAL, Rafael (ESP) [2]
MURRAY, Andy (GBR) [3]
FEDERER, Roger (SUI) [4]
WAWRINKA, Stan (SUI) [5]
BERDYCH, Tomas (CZE) [6]
FERRER, David (ESP) [7]
RAONIC, Milos (CAN) [8]
ISNER, John (USA) [9]
NISHIKORI, Kei (JPN) [10]
DIMITROV, Grigor (BUL) [11]
GULBIS, Ernests (LAT) [12]
GASQUET, Richard (FRA) [13]
TSONGA, Jo-Wilfried (FRA) [14]
JANOWICZ, Jerzy (POL) [15]
FOGNINI, Fabio (ITA) [16]
YOUZHNY, Mikhail (RUS) [17]
VERDASCO, Fernando (ESP) [18]
LOPEZ, Feliciano (ESP) [19]
ANDERSON, Kevin (RSA) [20]
DOLGOPOLOV, Alexandr (UKR) [21]
KOHLSCHREIBER, Philipp (GER) [22]
ROBREDO, Tommy (ESP) [23]
MONFILS, Gael (FRA) [24]
ALMAGRO, Nicolas (ESP) [25]
SEPPI, Andreas (ITA) [26]
CILIC, Marin (CRO) [27]
BAUTISTA AGUT, Roberto (ESP) [28]
GARCIA-LOPEZ, Guillermo (ESP) [29]
KARLOVIC, Ivo (CRO) [30]
GRANOLLERS, Marcel (ESP) [31]
TURSUNOV, Dmitry (RUS) [32]

 

[tented]

Why isn't Rafa seeded No. 1?











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[Murat Baslamisli]

Since those are the seeds, who is outside of top 32 that the top guys would not necessarily want to meet early?

I would say Stepanek, Benneteau, Meltzer (he is just weird to play against), Brown (the confidence factor), Falla...

Who do you have?

 

[herios]

Since those are the seeds, who is outside of top 32 that the top guys would not necessarily want to meet early?

I would say Stepanek, Benneteau, Meltzer (he is just weird to play against), Brown (the confidence factor), Falla...

Who do you have?

Mahut.

 

[tented]

Since those are the seeds, who is outside of top 32 that the top guys would not necessarily want to meet early?

I would say Stepanek, Benneteau, Meltzer (he is just weird to play against), Brown (the confidence factor), Falla...

Who do you have?

Oh, just say it: Rosol.

And Stakhovsky.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Since those are the seeds, who is outside of top 32 that the top guys would not necessarily want to meet early?

I would say Stepanek, Benneteau, Meltzer (he is just weird to play against), Brown (the confidence factor), Falla...

Who do you have?

Oh, just say it: Rosol.

And Stakhovsky.

No way...lightning, same place and all that ...we need new "unnamed" players.

 

[tented]

Here's the confirmation:

Gentlemen’s Singles
DJOKOVIC, Novak (SRB) [1]
NADAL, Rafael (ESP) [2]
MURRAY, Andy (GBR) [3]
FEDERER, Roger (SUI) [4]
WAWRINKA, Stan (SUI) [5]
BERDYCH, Tomas (CZE) [6]
FERRER, David (ESP) [7]
RAONIC, Milos (CAN) [8]
ISNER, John (USA) [9]
NISHIKORI, Kei (JPN) [10]
DIMITROV, Grigor (BUL) [11]
GULBIS, Ernests (LAT) [12]
GASQUET, Richard (FRA) [13]
TSONGA, Jo-Wilfried (FRA) [14]
JANOWICZ, Jerzy (POL) [15]
.....
KARLOVIC, Ivo (CRO) [30]
GRANOLLERS, Marcel (ESP) [31]
TURSUNOV, Dmitry (RUS) [32]

There's no official word yet, but if Ferrer and Wawrinka pull out, then Isner and Nishikori would be bumped up into the top 8. While I'd like to think they wouldn't wish illness upon others, they've got to be excited about the possibility of moving into the top 8.

I'm not going to try to do "Wimbledon math" to determine who would then become the new No. 31 & 32 seeds, but in the ATP rankings it's Karlovic and Seppi. And while I'd like to think they wouldn't wish illness upon others ...

 

[Front242]

Gotta place Karlovic and Isner right up there as players the top guys wouldn't want to face early either. Karlovic more so because of his lower ranking but first week with the fresh faster grass, if he serves well, that's not gonna be easy!

 

[herios]

Since those are the seeds, who is outside of top 32 that the top guys would not necessarily want to meet early?

I would say Stepanek, Benneteau, Meltzer (he is just weird to play against), Brown (the confidence factor), Falla...

Who do you have?

Oh, just say it: Rosol.

And Stakhovsky.

No way...lightning, same place and all that ...we need new "unnamed" players.

I will throw in Kenny de Schepper (6'8" and 4th round last year).
While he benefited by Cilic WD last year, he beat Monaco ranked 20 and beat Gulbis last week in Queens.

 

[Front242]

Since those are the seeds, who is outside of top 32 that the top guys would not necessarily want to meet early?

I would say Stepanek, Benneteau, Meltzer (he is just weird to play against), Brown (the confidence factor), Falla...

Who do you have?

Oh, just say it: Rosol.

And Stakhovsky.

No way...lightning, same place and all that ...we need new "unnamed" players.

I will throw in Kenny de Schepper (6'8" and 4th round last year).
While he benefited by Cilic WD last year, he beat Monaco ranked 20 and beat Gulbis last week in Queens.

Yeah, another very tall guy with a typically deadly serve.

 

[Luxilon Borg]

The All England Club has some set of stones.