Could Andy Murray Be the Greatest Player Ever to Never Reach No. 1?

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Kieran said:
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^^was finally decided in recent weeks that world rank charts from olden days won't be altered, no world no1 rank for vilas.

That's a bummer. Vilas really deserved it.

What! Jimmy Connors won the Walt Disney Copacabana Pepsi Challenge, beating Slim Pickins in the final. Then he beat Noah Chance in the final of the Walmart Coca Cola Open, followed up with a great victory against Hootie Hellisdat in the final of the Lucky Strike Grand Slam Tournament of Champions and Near-Champions in Hells Toilet, Boca Raton.

Shame on you for comparing that banner year with a measly couple a majors... :mad:

who are you upset with. :huh:
 

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JesuslookslikeBorg said:
Kieran said:
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That's a bummer. Vilas really deserved it.

What! Jimmy Connors won the Walt Disney Copacabana Pepsi Challenge, beating Slim Pickins in the final. Then he beat Noah Chance in the final of the Walmart Coca Cola Open, followed up with a great victory against Hootie Hellisdat in the final of the Lucky Strike Grand Slam Tournament of Champions and Near-Champions in Hells Toilet, Boca Raton.

Shame on you for comparing that banner year with a measly couple a majors... :mad:

who are you upset with. :huh:

Anyone who takes issue with Jimmy Connors extraordinary feats in 1977... :mad:
 

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Kieran said:
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What! Jimmy Connors won the Walt Disney Copacabana Pepsi Challenge, beating Slim Pickins in the final. Then he beat Noah Chance in the final of the Walmart Coca Cola Open, followed up with a great victory against Hootie Hellisdat in the final of the Lucky Strike Grand Slam Tournament of Champions and Near-Champions in Hells Toilet, Boca Raton.

Shame on you for comparing that banner year with a measly couple a majors... :mad:

who are you upset with. :huh:

Anyone who takes issue with Jimmy Connors extraordinary feats in 1977... :mad:

not me then..I was just saying that no revision of the rank charts will be happening, atp/itf are not altering the past.
 

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I'm only kidding, buddy, I'm not sure how Jimbo got the top spot in 1977 either...
 

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Kieran said:
El Dude said:
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^^was finally decided in recent weeks that world rank charts from olden days won't be altered, no world no1 rank for vilas.

That's a bummer. Vilas really deserved it.

What! Jimmy Connors won the Walt Disney Copacabana Pepsi Challenge, beating Slim Pickins in the final. Then he beat Noah Chance in the final of the Walmart Coca Cola Open, followed up with a great victory against Hootie Hellisdat in the final of the Lucky Strike Grand Slam Tournament of Champions and Near-Champions in Hells Toilet, Boca Raton.

Shame on you for comparing that banner year with a measly couple a majors... :mad:

:laydownlaughing
 

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I was about to acquiesce and "give it" to Murray seeing as he's won 2 majors and an OGM, but checking the history of #2's, I think Guillermo Vilas deserves consideration at least! He had to deal with his nemesis and friend Bjorn Borg who banged on him like a drum, personally taking him out of 2 FO finals back in the 70's! Connors was also tough to beat, but he did manage it at the USO in '77; the same year he won the FO over Brian Gottfried! I think just because I'm from that era and saw how hard he worked to get past those 2 legends, I'm gonna say my vote goes to Vilas with Murray a very close 2nd; AGAIN w/ no pun intended! Murray was holding 2 majors at the time, but Vilas actually won 2 in a calendar year and still only mustered a ranking of #3 behind Borg & Connors! Vilas was also closer to being #1 in '75, but due to posting dates, he was never granted #1 status even though it was thought legitimate for maybe a few weeks back then! :angel: :dodgy:
 

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Kieran said:
I'm only kidding, buddy, I'm not sure how Jimbo got the top spot in 1977 either...

gaaaah you big git. :) I knew I wasn't feeling too good today but missing that sarcasm is not acceptable.:puzzled
 

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JesuslookslikeBorg said:
Kieran said:
I'm only kidding, buddy, I'm not sure how Jimbo got the top spot in 1977 either...

gaaaah you big git. :) I knew I wasn't feeling too good today but missing that sarcasm is not acceptable.:puzzled

Hootie Hellisdat was a real player in the 70's but not many people knew who he was! :snicker
 

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Kieran said:
JesuslookslikeBorg said:
Kieran said:
I'm only kidding, buddy, I'm not sure how Jimbo got the top spot in 1977 either...

gaaaah you big git. :) I knew I wasn't feeling too good today but missing that sarcasm is not acceptable.:puzzled

Hootie Hellisdat was a real player in the 70's but not many people knew who he was! :snicker

the name springs readily to mind: Connors, borg, gerulaitas, vilas, McEnroe..and....hootie hellisdat :D
 

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El Dude said:
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^^was finally decided in recent weeks that world rank charts from olden days won't be altered, no world no1 rank for vilas.

That's a bummer. Vilas really deserved it.

ATP decided not to revise the old ranking charts due to a specific technical reason. In those days, they were releasing ranks only four times a year. So, If somebody is ranked #1 in one release,
then they get counted as the #1 for the next 13 weeks until the new rankings are released.

Vilas would have been #1 for two weeks, if the current system of rankings being released was followed at that time. Vilas and his supporters therefore claimed that he should be recognized as #1 in view of that.

ATP indeed accepted that Vilas would have been ranked #1 for a couple of weeks if indeed rankings was done on a weekly basis at that time. But, nevertheless rejected Vilas's claim to be officially recognized as the #1 saying it is what it is. That is how things were done at that time. We cannot go back and revise the way things were done in past.

I agree with ATP's decision.