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@Moxie the only things that will keep him from the Olympics are injury and cancellation of the games. He is set to compete regardless of Wimbledon result. As it looks now and if everything goes according to the plans, he will play Toronto, Rio, Cincy and USO. The only question, I think, is DC quarter final tie.
I'm absolutely certain he wants to play at the OC and plans to. But if he wins Wimbledon, I'm just wondering where he lets off the pressure to protect the USO and CYGS...if he preferences that over the OG, or goes for it all. Maybe he passes on Toronto and Cincy. He doesn't need much tune-up, and Rio could be that.
 

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@Moxie the only things that will keep him from the Olympics are injury and cancellation of the games. He is set to compete regardless of Wimbledon result. As it looks now and if everything goes according to the plans, he will play Toronto, Rio, Cincy and USO. The only question, I think, is DC quarter final tie.

Have just read this morning that he has confirmed DC - I am hoping its not true. It's far too much pressure but I suppose it means he's feeling good or possibly trying to upset Murray a bit!
 

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Have just read this morning that he has confirmed DC - I am hoping its not true. It's far too much pressure but I suppose it means he's feeling good or possibly trying to upset Murray a bit!

I know Nole is a huge patriot but Davis Cup might throw a spanner in the works if he's still in the ballgame for a Calendar Year Grand Slam... I don't think anyone from Serbia would begrudge him if he pulled out and maybe (fans should probably hope) he will if he's still in the mix for such a historic achievement.
 

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I know Nole is a huge patriot but Davis Cup might throw a spanner in the works if he's still in the ballgame for a Calendar Year Grand Slam... I don't think anyone from Serbia would begrudge him if he pulled out and maybe (fans should probably hope) he will if he's still in the mix for such a historic achievement.

Just saw Serbia is hosting Great Britain in the quarters, could be the reasoning behind him playing.

I'd like to Djoker skip the Olympics. Since he won't do that, then maybe Cinci.
 

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Laver: Djokovic has 'good shot' at Grand Slam

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Tennis great Rod Laver, the last man to win the Grand Slam 47 years ago, believes Novak Djokovic has a 'good shot' at pulling off the feat having already won the first two majors of 2016.

http://www.espn.com.au/tennis/story...r-happy-novak-djokovic-wins-tennis-grand-slam
 

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Just saw Serbia is hosting Great Britain in the quarters, could be the reasoning behind him playing.

I'd like to Djoker skip the Olympics. Since he won't do that, then maybe Cinci.
DC is the weekend after Wimbledon. With a solid chance that SRB (Nole) and GBR (Andy) are in the finals at Wimbledon. To say they'll play DC now is to talk smack. If they are both still in at the last weekend in London, they should skip DC. There is too much else going on. Cincy is the one that's going to get squeezed out by the Olympics.
 
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Any way I look at it, the Games are out of place for the tennis calendar, but Nole is set to play there. DC is another one that I would advise him to skip, and I haven't heard anything that confirms his participation. I guess they will see how Wimbledon is going. Janko did confirm that he is going to play qf tie and won't go to Rio. BTW it will be on clay.

The commercials for Rogers cup are heating up. A month ago Fed was included in the ads, but now he is not featured anymore. Milos, Nole, Rafa and Andy are. I am selfish and want them all to play Toronto so I can watch live.;) It makes sense to stop here on the way over to Rio. There is one week between the end of Rogers cup and Olympic tennis. Cincy is being held the week after Rio, so that will be a really tough one for players who plan on that crazy schedule. I guess we'll see. It is not going to be easy for them.
 
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I like informative, analytical articles and here is one about Nole and how he wins points (might be surprising for some that his bread and butter are short points, up to 4 shots).

Return of serve
“It’s particularly the backhand return,” says Craig O’Shannessy, the strategy analyst for Wimbledon, the Australian Open and the ATP and WTA Tours. “It’s the best backhand return in the world. That’s where it all starts. Most serves are directed to the backhand. It’s just really the simplicity of his technique. Two hands on the grip, his upper body rotates 90 degrees sideways and that’s it. O’Shannessy points out that Novak Djokovic rarely goes for broke on the return. “The big target area is deep right down the middle of the court. He’s trying to negate the impact of the serve. The server (usually) has an extra two shots off the serve where the serve still has influence, a halo effect. If you’re serving, you never want to hit a fourth shot because then you’re into an even 50-50 battle where the serve is irrelevant. Djokovic, with that return, the server is lucky if they get one extra shot. Sometimes they’re actually on defence on the very first ball after the serve. Then he has great court position. It’s huge percentages. Djokovic will hurt you everywhere, he doesn’t hit so many return winners – at Wimbledon in 2015 he only hit 11 – but he gets so many returns back into play.”

His serve
“The biggest thing is his ability to hit a spot,” O’Shannessy says. “If I was to put an empty can of balls on the court and you pick one player to hit a spot, typically it would have been Roger Federer. Today, coming into Wimbledon, I think Djokovic is that guy. Particularly the corners. He doesn’t serve a ton into the body but he serves a lot of sliders out wide in the deuce court, the patterns are like Federer, when he needs a point he will serve more out wide in the deuce court; when he has a bit of leeway he will go more down the T. In the ad court he mixes things very evenly. He has cleaned up his motion, the toss is ridiculous, it’s in the same spot every time. It’s not the hardest serve – in 2015, his average for the tournament was 117mph on first serve, 97 on the second serve and his fastest was 127. He puts a little topspin on it, there’s a little slice on it, in the ad court down the T especially, there’s a little more topspin on the ad out wide just to cover it and improve those percentages a little bit. His first serve percentage is 66.6% for the last 52 weeks, which puts him third on the Tour; only Rafael Nadal and John Isner are higher.

He strikes first
“When we think of players, we think of them in terms of styles,” O’Shannessy says. “David Ferrer’s a grinder, Lleyton Hewitt’s a counter-puncher and Federer’s an all‑court player etc. But every player on the planet is a first‑strike player – the points exist in the 0-4 shot range. Seventy per cent of all points finish in the first four shots, 20% are in the five to eight shot range and 10% are nine shots plus. Djokovic is right at that average. In the 2015 Australian Open, 69% of all points he played were nought to four; 21 were in the five to eight range and only 10% were in nine plus. We think of him playing all these long points and grinding. But again, in the 2015 Australian Open, in the nine-plus range, he only won 13 more points than he lost. He was plus 48 in five to eight and he was plus 89 in nought to four. He’s not the animal we think he is. When the points are longer, he runs, he’s elastic and his defence is fine but by far the majority of points he collects are in nought to four because of his ability to hit spots on serve – and particularly his amazing points. His advantage is much more in the nought to four than it is in the nine plus.”

A giant mentally
Henri Leconte, the former France Davis Cup player, believes Djokovic is as dominant now as Federer and Nadal were in their pomp. “He is the one and only for the moment,” says Leconte, who will be commentating for Eurosport during Wimbledon. “After winning the Davis Cup against France in 2010 he’s definitely found a way to concentrate himself and be ready for the big tournaments and grand slam play, as he is doing now.” Leconte says Djokovic’s tough upbringing, in war-torn Serbia, played a part in his mental strength. “Definitely, life has been hard and complicated for him and as a family,” Leconte says. “Definitely, I think that he went through a lot of terrible things, so now he can enjoy life. For him, if he wins it’s very important, if he loses it’s not the end of the world. He is happy in his life, he knows his body really well, mentally he can also produce and be more relaxed. When you are winning everything, when you are on top of your game and you’re the No1, you just enjoy yourself, you know what to do.”

Fitness and flexibility
“Djokovic’s fitness is the best in the world,” Leconte says. “The way he practises, he has a new technique, he is more flexible than anyone else. Before we used to say you need muscles, you need power; it’s not the case any more, you have to be fit, you have to be able to react as well, be light, be flexible, you have to be many things. I haven’t seen anyone as flexible as him – maybe Plastic Man. I think the most important thing to be now is to be flexible, to have the ligaments and joints flexible, too. Be capable of training as hard as possible, not losing power and be flexible. When I watch him slide, I just think I would break myself. He is capable of doing it. He is unbelievable.”

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...-perfect-tennis-player-hard-to-beat-wimbledon
 

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Nole said in his presser that he's not going to play DC. Fair enough. The man needs a break. He also said he was unsure about the Olympics. That may have been the fatigue and disappointment talking. We'll see about that in a few weeks.
 

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Nole said in his presser that he's not going to play DC. Fair enough. The man needs a break. He also said he was unsure about the Olympics. That may have been the fatigue and disappointment talking. We'll see about that in a few weeks.

I am not surprised. He initially said he would only play 1st DC tie and he looked both ill and exhausted when he played.

Despite winning so much this year he hasn't looked happy or on best form to me and I follow him closely. Of course winning RG was wonderful but that was the goal he had been chasing for so long that finding new motivation was bound to be tough. And being the target every other player wants to bring down must be very wearing.
However I suspect he has a shoulder or neck problem. Has anyone else noticed he keeps rubbing his shoulder and stretching his neck to one side? He could well have a problem that needs rest.
 
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I am not surprised. He initially said he would only play 1st DC tie and he looked both ill and exhausted when he played.

Despite winning so much this year he hasn't looked happy or on best form to me and I follow him closely. Of course winning RG was wonderful but that was the goal he had been chasing for so long that finding new motivation was bound to be tough. And being the target every other player wants to bring down must be very wearing.
However I suspect he has a shoulder or neck problem. Has anyone else noticed he keeps rubbing his shoulder and stretching his neck to one side? He could well have a problem that needs rest.

Very much agree Mary. I think the shoulder/neck issue has been ongoing, They may want to take some time to get to the bottom of it. The Olympics comment may not be disappointment as much as it is the reality of what they will be dealing with in Rio.
 
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Djokovic must be tired..90matches last year, 50 this year.. and he is getting on abit at 29.

mental toll of constant winning/career grand slam/4 in a row/going for cygs must weigh heavy too.

..time for mr serbinator to relax and eat some lettuce and tomatoes while reclining on a deckchair in the groovy Serbian sun.
 

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Djokovic must be tired..90matches last year, 50 this year.. and he is getting on abit at 29.

mental toll of constant winning/career grand slam/4 in a row/going for cygs must weigh heavy too.

..time for mr serbinator to relax and eat some lettuce and tomatoes while reclining on a deckchair in the groovy Serbian sun.
according to l"Equipe, he said he needed to spend more time with his family. he said he wasn't sure to play before Rio, he'll decide later. he said the pace was too harsh for him, he's tired and upset
I guess his RG's trophy took him a lot of energy, both physically and mentally
he pulled out of next DC tie of course
 
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according to l"Equipe, he said he needed to spend more time with his family. he said he wasn't sure to play before Rio, he'll decide later. he said the pace was too harsh for him, he's tired and upset
I guess his RG's trophy took him a lot of energy, both physically and mentally
he pulled out of next DC tie of course

I am pretty sure he's got an injury Isabelle. Some time ago he had a nasty fall landing on his arm and shoulder. It was a good time ago and didn't stop him playing but he did look to be in awful pain for a few minutes. He did say after that match that he thought he had done some damage but nothing seemed to come of it. However since then his serve has been less reliable and he has been rubbing his shoulder. It looked to me as if it was taped in the Querry match and could well be a rotator cuff injury.

Not a good Wimbledon this year- dreadful weather and so many watchable players out.
 
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I am pretty sure he's got an injury Isabelle. Some time ago he had a nasty fall landing on his arm and shoulder. It was a good time ago and didn't stop him playing but he did look to be in awful pain for a few minutes. He did say after that match that he thought he had done some damage but nothing seemed to come of it. However since then his serve has been less reliable and he has been rubbing his shoulder. It looked to me as if it was taped in the Querry match and could well be a rotator cuff injury.

Not a good Wimbledon this year- dreadful weather and so many watchable players out.

There might be a slight shoulder injury but I don't think it was more than just the usual wear and tear. The loss was a mental fatigue more than anything else, combined with him being scheduled on a court with no roof and with such a rainy day. When he started playing better at the beginning of the 3rd set the next day, they had to stop again...then again...it was just too much in the state he was in. The challenges he spent in the 4th set (in first 5 games) so he couldn't challenge those awful 2 calls that went against him in the 10th game. The Serbian Davis cup captain was pretty vocal about the scheduling and didn't mention an injury. Nole had to lose sometime, even if he won here in the past 2 years. Considering that he was making more history with every match, I would have liked that the organizers could give him a fairer opportunity to do that and schedule him under the roof, but I guess they didn't think he deserved the consideration.

He stayed in London the extra 2 days after the match which also tells me that there wasn't anything major with him physically. I am sure he will be ready for the NA summer swing.
 

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There might be a slight shoulder injury but I don't think it was more than just the usual wear and tear. The loss was a mental fatigue more than anything else, combined with him being scheduled on a court with no roof and with such a rainy day. When he started playing better at the beginning of the 3rd set the next day, they had to stop again...then again...it was just too much in the state he was in. The challenges he spent in the 4th set (in first 5 games) so he couldn't challenge those awful 2 calls that went against him in the 10th game. The Serbian Davis cup captain was pretty vocal about the scheduling and didn't mention an injury. Nole had to lose sometime, even if he won here in the past 2 years. Considering that he was making more history with every match, I would have liked that the organizers could give him a fairer opportunity to do that and schedule him under the roof, but I guess they didn't think he deserved the consideration.

He stayed in London the extra 2 days after the match which also tells me that there wasn't anything major with him physically. I am sure he will be ready for the NA summer swing.
Sorry for your loss, Billie, as a big Novak fan. But I wonder if you think if he'd played that match on Centre Court (with the roof closed) if he'd have gotten out of it better on Friday. I agree on mental fatigue. On Friday he looked like the best thing that could have happened to him was to be able to regroup and start over on Sat. Yes, bad calls and more rain, but, as you said, he was tired mentally, and it seemed to me he couldn't find the inner fight to get out of that hole, however it was dug. Personally, I don't think that being on Centre Court would have helped him.
 

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There might be a slight shoulder injury but I don't think it was more than just the usual wear and tear. The loss was a mental fatigue more than anything else, combined with him being scheduled on a court with no roof and with such a rainy day. When he started playing better at the beginning of the 3rd set the next day, they had to stop again...then again...it was just too much in the state he was in. The challenges he spent in the 4th set (in first 5 games) so he couldn't challenge those awful 2 calls that went against him in the 10th game. The Serbian Davis cup captain was pretty vocal about the scheduling and didn't mention an injury. Nole had to lose sometime, even if he won here in the past 2 years. Considering that he was making more history with every match, I would have liked that the organizers could give him a fairer opportunity to do that and schedule him under the roof, but I guess they didn't think he deserved the consideration.

He stayed in London the extra 2 days after the match which also tells me that there wasn't anything major with him physically. I am sure he will be ready for the NA summer swing.

I really hope you are right but I have a bad feel about where he is right now and I've had it for some time despite RG. I hope some rest and time away from tennis will help him.

I have always loved Wimbledon but I hate the way they manage the tournament. Far too much arrogance and favouring of certain players and inconsistent weak umpiring and line calls. It's been an issue for years going back even before McEnroe. They crawl to the Royals but bully the players and show little concern for fans.
I knew the courts would give Nole a problem this year. It's been wet for weeks before Wimbledon and the grass would have been very poor - lush and greasy even before the tournament started. Obviously that affects everyone but Nole's movement is such a major factor it seems wrong to me that the no 1 player should have been scheduled on no 1 court on a day when they knew without doubt that rain delays would occur.
 
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There might be a slight shoulder injury but I don't think it was more than just the usual wear and tear. The loss was a mental fatigue more than anything else, combined with him being scheduled on a court with no roof and with such a rainy day. When he started playing better at the beginning of the 3rd set the next day, they had to stop again...then again...it was just too much in the state he was in. The challenges he spent in the 4th set (in first 5 games) so he couldn't challenge those awful 2 calls that went against him in the 10th game. The Serbian Davis cup captain was pretty vocal about the scheduling and didn't mention an injury. Nole had to lose sometime, even if he won here in the past 2 years. Considering that he was making more history with every match, I would have liked that the organizers could give him a fairer opportunity to do that and schedule him under the roof, but I guess they didn't think he deserved the consideration.

He stayed in London the extra 2 days after the match which also tells me that there wasn't anything major with him physically. I am sure he will be ready for the NA summer swing.

I really hope you are right but I have a bad feel about where he is right now and I've had it for some time despite RG. I hope some rest and time away from tennis will help him.

I have always loved Wimbledon but I hate the way they manage the tournament. Far too much arrogance and favouring of certain players and inconsistent weak umpiring and line calls. It's been an issue for years going back even before McEnroe. They crawl to the Royals but bully the players and show little concern for fans.
I knew the courts would give Nole a problem this year. It's been wet for weeks before Wimbledon and the grass would have been very poor - lush and greasy even before the tournament started. Obviously that affects everyone but Nole's movement is such a major factor it seems wrong to me that the no 1 player should have been scheduled on no 1 court on a day when they knew without doubt that rain delays would occur.
 

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I really hope you are right but I have a bad feel about where he is right now and I've had it for some time despite RG. I hope some rest and time away from tennis will help him.

I have always loved Wimbledon but I hate the way they manage the tournament. Far too much arrogance and favouring of certain players and inconsistent weak umpiring and line calls. It's been an issue for years going back even before McEnroe. They crawl to the Royals but bully the players and show little concern for fans.
I knew the courts would give Nole a problem this year. It's been wet for weeks before Wimbledon and the grass would have been very poor - lush and greasy even before the tournament started. Obviously that affects everyone but Nole's movement is such a major factor it seems wrong to me that the no 1 player should have been scheduled on no 1 court on a day when they knew without doubt that rain delays would occur.
Today I have read that Nole has a long standing wrist injury. I have been sure all year something was wrong. I hope it can heal without surgery- such a tough joint to repair. US Open without him or Fed would be much the poorer.
 
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