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In 6 more weeks Serena passes Monica Seles at number 5 for all time weeks at number 1, and if Serena does well the rest of the year and holds on to number 1, she can pass Martina Hingis and be number 4.
 

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I think number four is easily achievable. I doubt anything higher. Hoping for an injury free year
 

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Si Si Simona said:
10sfan said:
I assume the voters are not close followers of the sport. They are casual viewers. Since Serena did not win AO, they think she should not be number one. We need to remind ourselves that not everyone who watches tennis understands it at a deep level.

I think that there is another reason for the anti votes.
Such domination as Serena had in 2013 creates detractors* who don't like to be dominated by just one person. :D Its human nature. Success can bring hate and not just love. Humans are jealous of others doing "too well".

Serena has always had her Ha.... err.. detractors, for

many years, and I think this does factor into it.
 

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RJD11 said:
Si Si Simona said:
10sfan said:
I assume the voters are not close followers of the sport. They are casual viewers. Since Serena did not win AO, they think she should not be number one. We need to remind ourselves that not everyone who watches tennis understands it at a deep level.

I think that there is another reason for the anti votes.
Such domination as Serena had in 2013 creates detractors* who don't like to be dominated by just one person. :D Its human nature. Success can bring hate and not just love. Humans are jealous of others doing "too well".

Yep.

Serena has always had her Ha.... err.. detractors, for

many years, and I think this does factor into it.
 

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Poll still up on ESPN ...Numbers turning for Serena.


Should Serena Williams still be ranked No. 1 in women's tennis?


60%
Yes

40%
No

Discuss (Total votes: 26,915)
 

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RJD11 said:
Poll still up on ESPN ...Numbers turning for Serena.


Should Serena Williams still be ranked No. 1 in women's tennis?


60%
Yes

40%
No

Discuss (Total votes: 26,915)

Aloha everyone! My first post so go easy on me, my posting virginity is at stake here...:please:

I was shocked at the nature of the Poll, such that I finally decided to post, rather then just lurk and rant to myself. Perhaps it was my reaction to the topic, combined with my frustration in my inability to find the Poll on ESPN, that pushed me over the posting edge.

I was about ready to BOUNCE IT, the computer that is, when I finally found the Poll ;)

When you view the Poll, there is a MAP link that provides the geographical source of the Voters, in the US, and votes for World Wide

http://espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=tennis&pollId=4162979

It seem 3 states voted against Serena, Idaho, Vermont, and Hawaii.. The last one surprised me not at all, 1st time in my white life I have ever been in the minority... So Idaho and Vermont hmmmm, where's Mississippi and the rest of the deep south....

The Poll reeks of racism, and demonstrates there is still is a long way to go in accepting people for who they are, not what they look like.

Serena?
If she decides to play Indian Wells, out of the spirit of Mandella's forgiveness, she is definitely the better person for it. IF NOT, I can understand and accept that as well. I watched the video of the 2011 Championship Match, and to treat any 19 year old in the manner, let alone an outstanding young professional athlete, without the Tournament Management making any attempt to control, or condemn it, was totally outrageous
 

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^Welcome, Bounce it. That was a very thoughtful initial post. As you can see, folks around here were pretty appalled by the initial poll…basically just in the fact of it. The original error lies with ESPN, imo. How is Serena not the clear #1? It's not like some recent #1s, who have been slamlesss. And there's no nuance in the poll. To invite people even to vote on that invites malicious intent.
 

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Bounce It !! said:
RJD11 said:
Poll still up on ESPN ...Numbers turning for Serena.


Should Serena Williams still be ranked No. 1 in women's tennis?


60%
Yes

40%
No

Discuss (Total votes: 26,915)

Aloha everyone! My first post so go easy on me, my posting virginity is at stake here...:please:

I was shocked at the nature of the Poll, such that I finally decided to post, rather then just lurk and rant to myself. Perhaps it was my reaction to the topic, combined with my frustration in my inability to find the Poll on ESPN, that pushed me over the posting edge.

I was about ready to BOUNCE IT, the computer that is, when I finally found the Poll ;)

When you view the Poll, there is a MAP link that provides the geographical source of the Voters, in the US, and votes for World Wide

http://espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=tennis&pollId=4162979

It seem 3 states voted against Serena, Idaho, Vermont, and Hawaii.. The last one surprised me not at all, 1st time in my white life I have ever been in the minority... So Idaho and Vermont hmmmm, where's Mississippi and the rest of the deep south....

The Poll reeks of racism, and demonstrates there is still is a long way to go in accepting people for who they are, not what they look like.

Serena?
If she decides to play Indian Wells, out of the spirit of Mandella's forgiveness, she is definitely the better person for it. IF NOT, I can understand and accept that as well. I watched the video of the 2011 Championship Match, and to treat any 19 year old in the manner, let alone an outstanding young professional athlete, without the Tournament Management making any attempt to control, or condemn it, was totally outrageous

Very good initial post Bounce. You seem to have a good grasp

of things. Chime in and give your POV. It doesn't matter if you agree

or disagree with the consensus. That's the whole point point of it all.

I " lurked " for some time before I posted also. Then one day I jumped

in when I couldn't hold it in anymore and thru all the trials and tribs

I never regretted it.
 

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Moxie629 said:
^Welcome, Bounce it. That was a very thoughtful initial post. As you can see, folks around here were pretty appalled by the initial poll…basically just in the fact of it. The original error lies with ESPN, imo. How is Serena not the clear #1? It's not like some recent #1s, who have been slamlesss. And there's no nuance in the poll. To invite people even to vote on that invites malicious intent.

Very Good Moxie

I can't understand why ESPN would put up such a poll

Their polls are usually something relevant and on point to

whats going on in Tennis at the time. This was so out

there and out of the blue as ridiculous as it gets with no

explanation or context as to ...Why.
 

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She should be ranked #1 because she is ranked #1. If she shouldn't be she wouldn't be.
 

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Fiero425 said:
10sfan said:
I assume the voters are not close followers of the sport. They are casual viewers. Since Serena did not win AO, they think she should not be number one. We need to remind ourselves that not everyone who watches tennis understands it at a deep level.

I just don't understand this discussion! It makes no sense! Serena's the clear #1 player in the world with an even larger lead than Rafa for the men! If there's any real doubt in anyone's mind, they really need serious help! :lolz: :nono :( :huh: :puzzled :nono
Yeah, but they don't doubt it. That's the problem with all polls related to tennis or any other sport. Over half of the voters don't vote according to their honest opinion but according to who they like and don't like. A 100% knows she 'should be' #1 but 40% of them don't like it, so they vote accordingly.
 

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Jhar, very good point. Some people vote with their heart, not their head. We see that even on our polls here.
 
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