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Johnson is sent home as well. Not a good start for the higher ranked Americans. Gonna be a long summer?
 

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Kirijax said:
Johnson is sent home as well. Not a good start for the higher ranked Americans. Gonna be a long summer?

Been a lot of long, hot summers for the US men for some time now. :( Disappointed by Sock. But Kudla is still in...
 

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Moxie629 said:
Kirijax said:
Johnson is sent home as well. Not a good start for the higher ranked Americans. Gonna be a long summer?

Been a lot of long, hot summers for the US men for some time now. :( Disappointed by Sock. But Kudla is still in...

Haha, that's true, Moxie. Boy has it been a long hit scorcher of a summer for the men. Twelve years since an American Grand Slam champion. With all our resources available, that's pretty damning evidence that the USTA has really failed in their job.
 

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Kirijax said:
Moxie629 said:
Kirijax said:
Johnson is sent home as well. Not a good start for the higher ranked Americans. Gonna be a long summer?

Been a lot of long, hot summers for the US men for some time now. :( Disappointed by Sock. But Kudla is still in...

Haha, that's true, Moxie. Boy has it been a long hit scorcher of a summer for the men. Twelve years since an American Grand Slam champion. With all our resources available, that's pretty damning evidence that the USTA has really failed in their job.

I was thinking about this yesterday, and I think you're right. If there were a specific finger to point, it has to be at them. We talk about tennis not being as popular in the US, but it's a far more lucrative sport than it was when we did have winning players on the men's side. And we should have an enormous talent pool to pull from, if we fostered it. It makes sense that the US women do better...tennis is the most well-paid sport for women, I think. But much smaller countries are producing superior players on the men's side, and their commitment to tennis, their strong federations has to have something to do with it.
 

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that tiafoe bloke who lost to sam groth in first round will still improve his rank..losing in 1st rd does get a few rank points, or maybe not I dunnoooooooooo.

5 points if the main draw is larger than 32. zero points it is then.
 

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Moxie629 said:
Kirijax said:
Moxie629 said:
Been a lot of long, hot summers for the US men for some time now. :( Disappointed by Sock. But Kudla is still in...

Haha, that's true, Moxie. Boy has it been a long hit scorcher of a summer for the men. Twelve years since an American Grand Slam champion. With all our resources available, that's pretty damning evidence that the USTA has really failed in their job.

I was thinking about this yesterday, and I think you're right. If there were a specific finger to point, it has to be at them. We talk about tennis not being as popular in the US, but it's a far more lucrative sport than it was when we did have winning players on the men's side. And we should have an enormous talent pool to pull from, if we fostered it. It makes sense that the US women do better...tennis is the most well-paid sport for women, I think. But much smaller countries are producing superior players on the men's side, and their commitment to tennis, their strong federations has to have something to do with it.

What is the big deal? The higher ranked promising American was taken out by another promising American, indeed lower ranked but at the same age. So technically, not such a bad outcome.
I am actually happy to see that Kudla follows up on his good run at Wimbledon.
As far as USTA, the story is very old. Let's not act like is a novelty.
As Remarque said "All quiet on the western front"
 

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JesuslookslikeBorg said:
that tiafoe bloke who lost to sam groth in first round will still improve his rank..losing in 1st rd does get a few rank points, or maybe not I dunnoooooooooo.

5 points if the main is larger than 32. zero points it is then.

He seriously should be better of playing challengers. He would move up faster.
 

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herios said:
Moxie629 said:
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Haha, that's true, Moxie. Boy has it been a long hit scorcher of a summer for the men. Twelve years since an American Grand Slam champion. With all our resources available, that's pretty damning evidence that the USTA has really failed in their job.

I was thinking about this yesterday, and I think you're right. If there were a specific finger to point, it has to be at them. We talk about tennis not being as popular in the US, but it's a far more lucrative sport than it was when we did have winning players on the men's side. And we should have an enormous talent pool to pull from, if we fostered it. It makes sense that the US women do better...tennis is the most well-paid sport for women, I think. But much smaller countries are producing superior players on the men's side, and their commitment to tennis, their strong federations has to have something to do with it.

What is the big deal? The higher ranked promising American was taken out by another promising American, indeed lower ranked but at the same age. So technically, not such a bad outcome.
I am actually happy to see that Kudla follows up on his good run at Wimbledon.
As far as USTA, the story is very old. Let's not act like is a novelty.
As Remarque said "All quiet on the western front"

Happy for Kudla too of course. But I thought Sock had a better chance than Kudla of taking the tournament. My confidence in Isner is gone. It would be great to see Kudla win the whole shebang but I don't think he's anywhere near that level.
 

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Kirijax said:
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I was thinking about this yesterday, and I think you're right. If there were a specific finger to point, it has to be at them. We talk about tennis not being as popular in the US, but it's a far more lucrative sport than it was when we did have winning players on the men's side. And we should have an enormous talent pool to pull from, if we fostered it. It makes sense that the US women do better...tennis is the most well-paid sport for women, I think. But much smaller countries are producing superior players on the men's side, and their commitment to tennis, their strong federations has to have something to do with it.

What is the big deal? The higher ranked promising American was taken out by another promising American, indeed lower ranked but at the same age. So technically, not such a bad outcome.
I am actually happy to see that Kudla follows up on his good run at Wimbledon.
As far as USTA, the story is very old. Let's not act like is a novelty.
As Remarque said "All quiet on the western front"

Happy for Kudla too of course. But I thought Sock had a better chance than Kudla of taking the tournament. My confidence in Isner is gone. It would be great to see Kudla win the whole shebang but I don't think he's anywhere near that level.

He has to start somewhere. What can he do, he just bumped into one past USTA hope, Harrison and the current one "Sock". He took care of both.
Let's see now how he does against Sela.
 

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herios said:
JesuslookslikeBorg said:
that tiafoe bloke who lost to sam groth in first round will still improve his rank..losing in 1st rd does get a few rank points, or maybe not I dunnoooooooooo.

5 points if the main is larger than 32. zero points it is then.

He seriously should be better of playing challengers. He would move up faster.

I sort of get your point, but would like if you would elaborate. It's an interesting thing.
 

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He could win there faster ranking points.
 

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What did I say that Kudla is on the move??
Kudla - Sela 7-5, 6-0.7:clap

He is marching through the US ranking rather fast.
 

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1 set all and now even in the third
 

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So close! Isner takes it 7-5 in the third. Good try by Kudla though. His ranking will move up to about No. 79. :clap
 

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So close! Isner takes it 7-5 in the third. Good try by Kudla though. His ranking will move up to about No. 79. :clap

What a huge advantage for isner because he resting while Mul & Baggy battle in the heat of the Atlanta tonight.
 

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Saturday's Results!

Semifinals
(1) J Isner (USA) bt D Kudla (USA) 4-6, 6-2, 7-5
(5) M Baghdatis (CYP) bt G Muller (LUX) (7) 6-7(4), 6-3, 7-6(4)

Isner will be going for his 10th career title and first this year. Baghdatis will try for his 5th title. Isner leads their H2H 5-0.
 

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Baghdatis, the occasional Phoenix.
 

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Isner beats Baghdatis 6-3, 6-3 and wins his 10th ATP title! This is USA's third title this year, after Sock (Houston) and Ram (Newport). And it passes the number of titles won last year.

The Bryan Brothers won their 107th title as well.