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Isner to Sela "We're on your side buddy"

Really Isner? I think it's best he stays out of politics.
 

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isner has now won 9 singles titles in his career,

all 9 titles have been atp250 events, 7 won in the usa and other 2 won in Auckland, nz.
 

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TennisFanatic7 said:
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Isner to Sela "We're on your side buddy"

Really Isner? I think it's best he stays out of politics.

He said that? Dear me. Sport and international politics need to stay absolutely separated.

I didn't hear him say it but tennis fans are talking about it on twitter. Politics and sport are never a good mix. Not sure what he was thinking.
 

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1972Murat said:
Iona16 said:
Isner to Sela "We're on your side buddy"

Really Isner? I think it's best he stays out of politics.

I tend to agree. Not because he is not allowed to have an opinion, he does. But what was he going to say if he was playing against a Palestinian player?

No idea to be honest. Not sure who 'we' is either.
 

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Sock has played well this year, hopefully he can begin to push on into the top 50 now, and hopefully he won't be another Isner and rely on American tournaments like Newport and Atlanta for such a big chunk of his points.

At least Isner is doing something, which cannot be said about any other American player.
 

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Iona16 said:
1972Murat said:
Iona16 said:
Isner to Sela "We're on your side buddy"

Really Isner? I think it's best he stays out of politics.

I tend to agree. Not because he is not allowed to have an opinion, he does. But what was he going to say if he was playing against a Palestinian player?

No idea to be honest. Not sure who 'we' is either.

"we" meaning the usa supporting Israel.
 

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1972Murat said:
Wow...Popsicle and Sock are seriously making a push for WTF. Unbelievable feat for such a new team.

There were not many messages posted after their outstanding Wimbledon result, first time teamed up and Bang, winning the big one.
I think the fact that they are playing doubles could be a great asset later in their singles career, beside the money they earn playing doubles this well.
Their net skills will develop this way, they could become strong S&V as they both have strong serve already.
 

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Iona16 said:
Isner to Sela "We're on your side buddy"

Really Isner? I think it's best he stays out of politics.

While I don't agree with American foreign policy, Big John's statement is an accurate reflection of how many Americans feel. And I agree in general that athletes should keep pretty quiet on this stuff, unless they are very well informed. No idea if Big John is.

Also go big John on getting another title! He has really maximized his talent.
 

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Riotbeard said:
Iona16 said:
Isner to Sela "We're on your side buddy"

Really Isner? I think it's best he stays out of politics.

While I don't agree with American foreign policy, Big John's statement is an accurate reflection of how many Americans feel. And I agree in general that athletes should keep pretty quiet on this stuff, unless they are very well informed. No idea if Big John is.

Also go big John on getting another title! He has really maximized his talent.

No he did not. He should do better in slams than he does.
 

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herios said:
Riotbeard said:
Iona16 said:
Isner to Sela "We're on your side buddy"

Really Isner? I think it's best he stays out of politics.

While I don't agree with American foreign policy, Big John's statement is an accurate reflection of how many Americans feel. And I agree in general that athletes should keep pretty quiet on this stuff, unless they are very well informed. No idea if Big John is.

Also go big John on getting another title! He has really maximized his talent.

No he did not. He should do better in slams than he does.

I am not sure I agree. That frame comes with a lot physical, cardio centric limitations that would be very difficult in best of 5. Could he have done better in a hand full of slam matches? Sure, but I think he has in general achieved about what you could expect. I think he has a shot pulling off a masters, but has no real shot at slams for physical reasons.
 

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For a guy who has now won 9 titles and twice reached a Masters 1000 final, and enjoyed a top 20 seeding for most of the last four years, I think it's fair enough to say he should have done better in the majors than a single QF appearance and a W/L record of 35-25.

For a guy who serves as big as Isner, it's quite shocking that he's actually lost more matches than he's won at Wimbledon in particular with a record of 5-6.
 

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TennisFanatic7 said:
For a guy who has now won 9 titles and twice reached a Masters 1000 final, and enjoyed a top 20 seeding for most of the last four years, I think it's fair enough to say he should have done better in the majors than a single QF appearance and a W/L record of 35-25.

For a guy who serves as big as Isner, it's quite shocking that he's actually lost more matches than he's won at Wimbledon in particular with a record of 5-6.

In general, I agree, but I think that assumes all bodies are built the same. I think his physical limitations are most dramatic at slams, and that's why his best of 5 record is worse than his best of 3.
 

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Riotbeard said:
TennisFanatic7 said:
For a guy who has now won 9 titles and twice reached a Masters 1000 final, and enjoyed a top 20 seeding for most of the last four years, I think it's fair enough to say he should have done better in the majors than a single QF appearance and a W/L record of 35-25.

For a guy who serves as big as Isner, it's quite shocking that he's actually lost more matches than he's won at Wimbledon in particular with a record of 5-6.

In general, I agree, but I think that assumes all bodies are built the same. I think his physical limitations are most dramatic at slams, and that's why his best of 5 record is worse than his best of 3.

Physical limitations? Isn't this the guy who was involved in a three day long match
in Wimbledon and won it as well. Most matches are played in about less than half of
the time that match took.
 

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Isner's 29yrs old. won 5 matches at Wimbledon..in 7 usopens he's reached 1 QF..non awesome i'd say.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
Riotbeard said:
TennisFanatic7 said:
For a guy who has now won 9 titles and twice reached a Masters 1000 final, and enjoyed a top 20 seeding for most of the last four years, I think it's fair enough to say he should have done better in the majors than a single QF appearance and a W/L record of 35-25.

For a guy who serves as big as Isner, it's quite shocking that he's actually lost more matches than he's won at Wimbledon in particular with a record of 5-6.

In general, I agree, but I think that assumes all bodies are built the same. I think his physical limitations are most dramatic at slams, and that's why his best of 5 record is worse than his best of 3.

Physical limitations? Isn't this the guy who was involved in a three day long match
in Wimbledon and won it as well. Most matches are played in about less than half of
the time that match took.

I didn't get to watch much of that match, so I won't comment, but I watch a good amount of isner, and playing tennis, lateral movement in particular takes a lot out of him. Height like that makes side to side movement pretty exhausting. He also has a wider frame in general. He carries a lot of weight with him. I think he about hit his ceiling, might get a masters.
 

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Riotbeard said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Riotbeard said:
TennisFanatic7 said:
For a guy who has now won 9 titles and twice reached a Masters 1000 final, and enjoyed a top 20 seeding for most of the last four years, I think it's fair enough to say he should have done better in the majors than a single QF appearance and a W/L record of 35-25.

For a guy who serves as big as Isner, it's quite shocking that he's actually lost more matches than he's won at Wimbledon in particular with a record of 5-6.

In general, I agree, but I think that assumes all bodies are built the same. I think his physical limitations are most dramatic at slams, and that's why his best of 5 record is worse than his best of 3.

Physical limitations? Isn't this the guy who was involved in a three day long match
in Wimbledon and won it as well. Most matches are played in about less than half of
the time that match took.

I didn't get to watch much of that match, so I won't comment, but I watch a good amount of isner, and playing tennis, lateral movement in particular takes a lot out of him. Height like that makes side to side movement pretty exhausting. He also has a wider frame in general. He carries a lot of weight with him. I think he about hit his ceiling, might get a masters.

I did not say he was going to be a threat at a major for the title, but he should have been able to navigate though the first week in slams a lot better. He has really no business to lose to unseeded players there, unless they are some dangerous floaters. I know his movement is an issue, still he has done poorer than he should've.
 

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herios said:
Riotbeard said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Riotbeard said:
TennisFanatic7 said:
For a guy who has now won 9 titles and twice reached a Masters 1000 final, and enjoyed a top 20 seeding for most of the last four years, I think it's fair enough to say he should have done better in the majors than a single QF appearance and a W/L record of 35-25.

For a guy who serves as big as Isner, it's quite shocking that he's actually lost more matches than he's won at Wimbledon in particular with a record of 5-6.

In general, I agree, but I think that assumes all bodies are built the same. I think his physical limitations are most dramatic at slams, and that's why his best of 5 record is worse than his best of 3.

Physical limitations? Isn't this the guy who was involved in a three day long match
in Wimbledon and won it as well. Most matches are played in about less than half of
the time that match took.

I didn't get to watch much of that match, so I won't comment, but I watch a good amount of isner, and playing tennis, lateral movement in particular takes a lot out of him. Height like that makes side to side movement pretty exhausting. He also has a wider frame in general. He carries a lot of weight with him. I think he about hit his ceiling, might get a masters.

I did not say he was going to be a threat at a major for the title, but he should have been able to navigate though the first week in slams a lot better. He has really no business to lose to unseeded players there, unless they are some dangerous floaters. I know his movement is an issue, still he has done poorer than he should've.

His slam record isn't great, but overall, I see his career (ranking, titles, etc.) as a case of making the most of what he has. He should have done a little better at slams, but I don't think it affects his standing much as he is not a serious threat there and has inherent conditioning issues that make best of five a significant disadvantage to him compared to best of 3.