APIA International, Sydney, Australia, ATP 250

[britbox]

kokk has pulled out of his wildcard acceptance..

after a year out and then 4matches in doubles title last week it's prob not a big surprise.

Sad to hear... maybe he just doesn't feel ready.

 

[britbox]

Results from the Sydney International Men's Singles Round 2 matches on Wednesday

Andrey Kuznetsov (Russia) beat Alex De Minaur (Australia) 6-2 0-0 (De Minaur retired)
Daniel Evans (Britain) beat 8-Marcel Granollers (Spain) 1-6 6-3 6-3
5-Philipp Kohlschreiber (Germany) beat Jordan Thompson (Australia) 7-5 6-4
4-Pablo Carreno (Spain) beat Mischa Zverev (Germany) 3-6 7-6(4) 6-3
6-Gilles Muller (Luxembourg) beat Matthew Barton (Australia) 6-1 3-6 6-4
2-Pablo Cuevas (Uruguay) beat Nicolas Mahut (France) 6-4 2-6 6-2

 

[Mastoor]

Geriatric draw with 10 players older than Troicki who is 29 and another 5 of his age. he has a good chance to play the final there again.

 

[isabelle]

Thiem and Troicki both won

 

[britbox]

Results from the Sydney International Men's Singles Quarterfinal matches on Thursday

Daniel Evans (Britain) beat 1-Dominic Thiem (Austria) 3-6 6-4 6-1
Andrey Kuznetsov (Russia) beat 4-Pablo Carreno (Spain) 2-6 6-4 6-1
3-Viktor Troicki (Serbia) beat 5-Philipp Kohlschreiber (Germany) walkover
6-Gilles Muller (Luxembourg) beat 2-Pablo Cuevas (Uruguay) 7-6(5) 6-4

Huge win for Dan Evans over Thiem.

 

[britbox]

Results from the Sydney International Men's Singles Semifinal matches on Friday

6-Gilles Muller (Luxembourg) beat 3-Viktor Troicki (Serbia) 6-3 7-6(6)

 

[Mastoor]

Gilles Mueller didn't have fancy glasses like Troicki, he didn't have neither hair nor neck for that matter but he had service and deserved the win absolutely. Disappointed with Troicki's lack of form. Oakley glasses were wow.

 

[isabelle]

will Gilles finally win his 1st tourney at 33 ???

 

[herios]

Thiem and Troicki both won

That is a very good question, how many chances will he still have left ? I always find these tourneys intriguing, when two unaccomplished players will battle it out. In anyway, there will be a new ATP title holder crowned.

 

[herios]

Geriatric draw with 10 players older than Troicki who is 29 and another 5 of his age. he has a good chance to play the final there again.

The whole tour is more and more geriatric. The players keep postponing retirement, and the young ones are lame, aside a few exceptions you can count on your fingers.

 

[Mastoor]

will Gilles finally win his 1st tourney at 33 ???

I think he will. Evans is a solid player and good fighter who is obviously hungry of success, but I don't see a chance for him to break Mueller's serve.

 

[Mastoor]

The whole tour is more and more geriatric. The players keep postponing retirement, and the young ones are lame, aside a few exceptions you can count on your fingers.

Yet they say tennis is more and more physical, which is a paradox - it is more physical and so many top 100 players are over 30.

 

[herios]

Yet they say tennis is more and more physical, which is a paradox - it is more physical and so many top 100 players are over 30.

For me is not such a paradox, and I will explain you why.
I am along time observer (I mean decades here) of the performance in track and field. That was my first favorite sport as a child. And by what I have seen for that duration (since 1970's) that:
1. The speed (explosiveness) is maximum at 25y of age, then it deteriorates;
2. The endurance (resistance) still develops until late twenties and can be maintained over 30y. This is because the distance runners are capable to still get better in those years.
So the physicality what you mention is rather pertinent to the endurance of the athletes and not the speed. My point is that a player can be better in his late twenties than in his early twenties.
Never mind that mentally will grow as well. Wawrinka is a quintessential example of that, he is strong and he became mentally a different player under Magnis Norman. Stan plays better later in the events (see the 3 slams he won) than in the beginning, thus there is no fatigue factor as far as he is concerned, despite his age.

 

[Moxie]

For me is not such a paradox, and I will explain you why.
I am along time observer (I mean decades here) of the performance in track and field. That was my first favorite sport as a child. And by what I have seen for that duration (since 1970's) that:
1. The speed (explosiveness) is maximum at 25y of age, then it deteriorates;
2. The endurance (resistance) still develops until late twenties and can be maintained over 30y. This is because the distance runners are capable to still get better in those years.
So the physicality what you mention is rather pertinent to the endurance of the athletes and not the speed. My point is that a player can be better in his late twenties than in his early twenties.
Never mind that mentally will grow as well. Wawrinka is a quintessential example of that, he is strong and he became mentally a different player under Magnis Norman. Stan plays better later in the events (see the 3 slams he won) than in the beginning, thus there is no fatigue factor as far as he is concerned, despite his age.

Hi, herios! Your mention of distance running is interesting, and it shouldn't "never mind" the mental aspect. It's one reason that distance runners tend to be older...longer races take patience and strategy, which tend to come with experience, maturity. This is the parallel I see with tennis, most particularly. The effect of the greater physicality of the sport, however, may be in why we don't have players winning Majors after age 31-32, as in the 70s with the likes of Rosewall and Gimeno.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

dan evans wastes theim in 3....looks like evans has stopped going out on the razzle with his chums and started getting serious with his training.

about time tho..26. has an injury as well in recent times, but also his attitude stank of old stale vomit.

maybe he decided that having a match point in a major vs stan who eventually won title was more fun than hanging around the local boozer getting hammered with the lads.

 

[britbox]

For me is not such a paradox, and I will explain you why.
I am along time observer (I mean decades here) of the performance in track and field. That was my first favorite sport as a child. And by what I have seen for that duration (since 1970's) that:
1. The speed (explosiveness) is maximum at 25y of age, then it deteriorates;
2. The endurance (resistance) still develops until late twenties and can be maintained over 30y. This is because the distance runners are capable to still get better in those years.
So the physicality what you mention is rather pertinent to the endurance of the athletes and not the speed. My point is that a player can be better in his late twenties than in his early twenties.
Never mind that mentally will grow as well. Wawrinka is a quintessential example of that, he is strong and he became mentally a different player under Magnis Norman. Stan plays better later in the events (see the 3 slams he won) than in the beginning, thus there is no fatigue factor as far as he is concerned, despite his age.

Interesting point about speed/explosiveness. Navratilova mentioned some points in her AO preview (on the other thread). She said pure speed could be maintained without a big dropoff for players over 30 but the bigger issue was reactions.... which I guess would factor in with the explosiveness. So you might be getting to the ball a fraction later - not necessarily because of pure speed but because you react slower.

 

[britbox]

dan evans wastes theim in 3....looks like evans has stopped going out on the razzle with his chums and started getting serious with his training.

about time tho..26. has an injury as well in recent times, but also his attitude stank of old stale vomit.

maybe he decided that having a match point in a major vs stan who eventually won title was more fun than hanging around the local boozer getting hammered with the lads.

Big win for Dan. I think Kyle Edmund's rise as also rubbed off on him.

 

[Moxie]

Interesting point about speed/explosiveness. Navratilova mentioned some points in her AO preview (on the other thread). She said pure speed could be maintained without a big dropoff for players over 30 but the bigger issue was reactions.... which I guess would factor in with the explosiveness. So you might be getting to the ball a fraction later - not necessarily because of pure speed but because you react slower.

I thought her illumination about reaction time was very interesting.

 

[britbox]

Sydney Final

v

Gilles Muller (6) v Dan Evans

H2H: First Meeting

 

[britbox]