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[Andy22]

If you weren't so transparent, that might actually be funny. Here's the deal: no matter how much you think Nadal hung the moon, no amount of just saying it will make it so. Complete partisanship is boring. Try arguing better and don't be a such a tool.

OK I guess, but FO13 was still better, not because won Djokovic at AO 12, but because both players wore 100% fit at FO13. Djokovic had a 5 hour match SF vs. Andy Murray, Nadal had a long match as well.

 

[Moxie]

OK I guess, but FO13 was still better, not because won Djokovic at AO 12, but because both players wore 100% fit at FO13. Djokovic had a 5 hour match SF vs. Andy Murray, Nadal had a long match as well.

Both players were 100% fit in both matches. The stakes were equally as high, as was the hype. There are rarely 2 matches so easily comparable between two top players. And each won one of them on his preferred surface. I don't see how you could rate the FO SF above, except for fandom. If anything, a final tops a SF.

 

[Andy22]

Both players were 100% fit in both matches. The stakes were equally as high, as was the hype. There are rarely 2 matches so easily comparable between two top players. And each won one of them on his preferred surface. I don't see how you could rate the FO SF above, except for fandom. If anything, a final tops a SF.

Look its close, between two, I think we going to have to agree to disagree.

 

[atttomole]

The reason those two particular matches were so interesting is that they were like mirrors of each other. Yes, Nadal was favored at RG in 2013, and he pulled it out. And he was playing better, overall. But Novak mounted a comeback and was up a break in the 5th. Likewise, in AO 2012, Novak was favored and playing better, but Rafa had a break in the 5th and couldn't bring it home. They were 2 great matches, and they effectively cancel each other out.

I agree. Those two matches are mirror images of each other.