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I'm mostly watching, but Khachanov is rather too boring for me. I listened to commentary in set 3. Taylor was serving great, playing great, in total control, then he went off the boil suddenly. Serve rather fell apart, and KK's picked up significantly.
A friend just texted me and said Fritz had a MTO for blisters on his foot,, reason why he lost the 3rd set 61, though back on serve in the 4th set 4 all
I understand why you dont want to watch KK who kills tennis
 
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Realy stop being a jerk okay, from accounts Fritz isnt injured
First why dont you watch the match and give a proper report because I cant and wont watch 2 matches at once
It seems you never watch a match live period
I do watch matches live, but after what happened yesterday with Dmitrov, I'm not going to give a report until after the match is over. I don't want put a 'report jinx'.
 

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Fritz d KAA 63 64 16 76(4) Fritz had blisters on his foot in the 3rd set needed a MTO
Fritz is into the SFs at Wimbledon his best result at Wimbledon reaching his 1st SF
Fritz awaits the winner of Alcaraz v Norrie
 

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Sinner has cancelled his practice session at 4pm local time at Aarangi Park
I have no other details as to why the practice session was cancelled
Still no news on the result of his MRI scan on his elbow
 
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Without the Bo5, Dmitrov wins in straight sets and doesn't get hurt, which is probably a better outcome for the greater good of the world.

I get that it won't prevent all situations. But I feel if a player has won the first 2 sets, it should be sufficient. I'd be even for a compromise for a hybrid Bo3/Bo5 in the men's game: If a player wins the first 2 sets, he wins. Otherwise, it's a Bo5. That will make the first sets more important. If you don't win either, then you were unprepared and don't deserve a 3rd. (By the way, 99 Philippoussis-Sampras still would have ended the same way if we had a Bo3 or my hybrid Bo3/Bo5 solution.)
I feel you're just trying to solve for one match you didn't like the outcome of. I don't see what problem that tennis has which this solves, otherwise. And you kill the beauty of the Bo5 format. You can't make a hybrid of it...that's just not Bo5. Coming back from 2 sets to love down is one of the great tests of a man's mettle in our sport. The recent French Open final would have gone from a classic to a 2 sets dud. 2022 Australia final same. Do you want to deprive us of those great comebacks? It's not going to prevent injuries, as we've mentioned, because there are injuries suffered in matches all year long in best of 3. And I don't see how you say that "If you didn't win either of the first 2 sets you don't deserve a 3rd." That makes a mockery of the format.
 

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I feel you're just trying to solve for one match you didn't like the outcome of. I don't see what problem that tennis has which this solves, otherwise. And you kill the beauty of the Bo5 format. You can't make a hybrid of it...that's just not Bo5. Coming back from 2 sets to love down is one of the great tests of a man's mettle in our sport. The recent French Open final would have gone from a classic to a 2 sets dud. 2022 Australia final same. Do you want to deprive us of those great comebacks? It's not going to prevent injuries, as we've mentioned, because there are injuries suffered in matches all year long in best of 3. And I don't see how you say that "If you didn't win either of the first 2 sets you don't deserve a 3rd." That makes a mockery of the format.
The game of tennis is evolving. Think back to the 2012 AO. We didn't have a serve clock and indefinitely running deciding sets. Before those changes were implemented, a lot people were against those things being removed. There was an event that was the catalyst for those changes. The 2012 AO final for the serve clock, and the 70-68 Isner-Mahut 5th set for deciding set tiebraker. What happened yesterday with Dmitrov will inevitably change the men's slams to 3 sets, whether it be in one year, 5 years, or even 10 years from now - and we'll point to that moment as to the reason why it changed. Change is coming, and there isn't anything anyone of us can do to stop it. Like there has been a lot of changes to the game of tennis in the last 10-15 years, everyone of us will just have to get used to it once the powers at be decide to make the men's slams 3 sets.
 

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The game of tennis is evolving. Think back to the 2012 AO. We didn't have a serve clock and indefinitely running deciding sets. Before those changes were implemented, a lot people were against those things being removed. There was an event that was the catalyst for those changes. The 2012 AO final for the serve clock, and the 70-68 Isner-Mahut 5th set for deciding set tiebraker. What happened yesterday with Dmitrov will inevitably change the men's slams to 3 sets, whether it be in one year, 5 years, or even 10 years from now - and we'll point to that moment as to the reason why it changed. Change is coming, and there isn't anything anyone of us can do to stop it. Like there has been a lot of changes to the game of tennis in the last 10-15 years, everyone of us will just have to get used to it once the powers at be decide to make the men's slams 3 sets.
Those were actual problems that needed fixing. If the men's game in Majors goes to best of 5, it won't be because of injury. It won't be because of what happened yesterday, nor because of the horror show that was Zverev's ankle injury v. Nadal at RG in 2022. It will be because the audience has no patience for longer matches. What happened yesterday is a rarity, and while everyone agrees it's a terrible shame, you can't fix it with any change in the rules.
 

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After a brief slow start, Carlitos got going and now serving for the first set at 5-2.
 

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I have a sneaking suspicion that either Sinner is going to withdraw or Ben Shelton is going to upset him.
 

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Without the Bo5, Dmitrov wins in straight sets and doesn't get hurt, which is probably a better outcome for the greater good of the world.

I get that it won't prevent all situations. But I feel if a player has won the first 2 sets, it should be sufficient. I'd be even for a compromise for a hybrid Bo3/Bo5 in the men's game: If a player wins the first 2 sets, he wins. Otherwise, it's a Bo5. That will make the first sets more important. If you don't win either, then you were unprepared and don't deserve a 3rd. (By the way, 99 Philippoussis-Sampras still would have ended the same way if we had a Bo3 or my hybrid Bo3/Bo5 solution.)

Been there, done that! You're probably not old enuf to recall the USO actually did just that w/ early round matches at Forest Hills after the surface was changed from grass to Har-Tru clay! We almost lost Borg in the 2nd Rd. to Jaime Filol, Sr. in 1976! Jaime was serving for it in the 3rd set, but Bjorn scratched out a TB! IDK how he made it to the final having to outlast Orantes & Gottfried in their 5 set contests! IMO it made all the difference in that final w/ Connors! After Borg dropped that 3rd set TB, he was done physically & mentally! Connors finished him off in 4! That was probably the last time Connors actually "beat" Borg! The '78 USO was a joke w/ Borg having an injured thumb & could barely hold onto his racket! I hope they don't go best of 3 eventually, but maybe go to that new scoring method utilized at the Next Gen. YEC! That would cut some of these matches down even if they went 5 sets routinely! :yawningface::fearful-face::face-with-hand-over-mouth::astonished-face::face-with-tears-of-joy:
 
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Great performance today by Alcaraz. Very little in the way of lost of focus.

This is a joke right? I awoke to find Fritz has made the SF of Wimbledon! How embarrassing in so many ways! I tout the depth of the men's tour, only to allow this travesty! How is he being pushed along? Is the world desperate for America to get back to the top in tennis after 20 yrs "lost in the woods?" At least the ladies have "represented!" :astonished-face::fearful-face::yawningface::anxious-face-with-sweat:
 

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This is a joke right? I awoke to find Fritz has made the SF of Wimbledon! How embarrassing in so many ways! I tout the depth of the men's tour, only to allow this travesty! How is he being pushed along? Is the world desperate for America to get back to the top in tennis after 20 yrs "lost in the woods?" At least the ladies have "represented!" :astonished-face::fearful-face::yawningface::anxious-face-with-sweat:
Fritz lucked out with the easiest draw ever. Actually, Draper (as the 4 seed) really deserved this draw much more than Fritz did (as the 5 seed).

I feel like the American media has pushed Ben Shelton as the next great tennis star more than Fritz. I feel like Shelton has the potential to test Djokovic more (assuming both win their QF tomorrow) than Fritz does against Alcaraz.
 
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Fritz lucked out with the easiest draw ever. Actually, Draper (as the 4 seed) really deserved this draw much more than Fritz did (as the 5 seed).

I feel like the American media has pushed Ben Shelton as the next great tennis star more than Fritz. I feel like Shelton has the potential to test Djokovic more (assuming both win their QF tomorrow) than Fritz does against Alcaraz.
The draw is the draw. I wouldn't say Tay had it easy. He faced dudes that can consistently serve 140+ on grass. Hello, he could have went out to either player. But all that aside, Chuck will be hard to beat no matter who is on the other side of the net. Djoke was hoping he doesn't have to face him again in the Final, but Fritz is the last American hope to prevent a Carlitos 3-peat. Jannik can match him with intensity and from the baseline, but as we saw at RG, Chuck has another gear he call upon.
 

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In other words you don't want anymore egg on your face because your Kmart blue light crystal ball is crap.
No, because injuries can happen at any time. What happened to Dmitrov yesterday can happen to anyone, at any given moment.

Dmitrov was dominating the match before the injury.
 
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