2020 USO F: Naomi Osaka vs. Victoria Azarenka

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It’s too bad she has to celebrate this in practically a vacuum with no fans.
I could care less about the fans. Give me the hardware and that 3 mil check. Besides the last time she had fans at her trophy ceremony they were booing.
 
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I really enjoyed the USO,even with out fans and some of the player's not turning up
We saw some great matches between the ladies
Hoping tomorrow we will see a high quality mens final.
 

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that a gross Results for tennis with this evil osaka SJW winning the us open again, I was thinking she was going to cry and talk about everything unfair in the world for about 30 mins in her winning speech. she has NO class Azarenka much more of a hero to everyone.
 

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I really enjoyed the USO,even with out fans and some of the player's not turning up
We saw some great matches between the ladies
Hoping tomorrow we will see a high quality mens final.

Bring it On ! Except for the time zones, guess this will be another 6 am start ?
 

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that a gross Results for tennis with this evil osaka SJW winning the us open again, I was thinking she was going to cry and talk about everything unfair in the world for about 30 mins in her winning speech. she has NO class Azarenka much more of a hero to everyone.
Wow, you said she was a "brat," and now you say she's "evil." Seems clear where you stand on social justice issues. But I don't see how she say she has "no class." What did she do that wasn't classy? You have a problem with an athlete taking a political stand?
 

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Wow, you said she was a "brat," and now you say she's "evil." Seems clear where you stand on social justice issues. But I don't see how she say she has "no class." What did she do that wasn't classy? You have a problem with an athlete taking a political stand?
yes I have a big problem with sports stars like osaka taking a Political stand because have NO idea that they are talking about, by the way I want everyone to be treated the same but not this way. she has NO class because osaka gets into things that have nothing to do with her, second she posted a herself wearing almost nothing on a beach people don,t to see thats really rude. so 3rd and finally osaka cried at us open 2018 like a victim then she was not it her williams was who it was all about not her this is why she has NO class, which Azarenka has a lot of.
 
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yes I have a big problem with sports stars like osaka taking a Political stand because have NO idea that they are talking about, by the way I want everyone to be treated the same but not this way. she has NO class because osaka gets into things that have nothing to do with her, second she posted a herself wearing almost nothing on a beach people don,t to see thats really rude so 3rd and finally osaka cried at us open 2018 like a victim then she was not it was williams who it was all about not her this is why she has NO class, which Azarenka has a lot of.
As a woman of color, I don't know how you think this has nothing to do with her. I think it's unfair to say that sports stars "have no idea what they are talking about," as they are sentient human beings, and they don't just check their humanity at the door. I'm not sure what the things she wears on the beach have anything to do with anything, and a lot of people cry when they win a Major. I disagree that she cried, "like a victim." Want to watch that again?

Oh, and btw, what does this even mean: "I want everyone to be treated the same but not this way." I'm really curious to know.

 

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As a woman of color, I don't know how you think this has nothing to do with her. I think it's unfair to say that sports stars "have no idea what they are talking about," as they are sentient human beings, and they don't just check their humanity at the door. I'm not sure what the things she wears on the beach have anything to do with anything, and a lot of people cry when they win a Major. I disagree that she cried, "like a victim." Want to watch that again?

Oh, and btw, what does this even mean: "I want everyone to be treated the same but not this way." I'm really curious to know.


yes thats I saying as woman of color it has nothing to do with her at all its not her culture and only family friends should gave their opinion Also, shes not African American and only part Japanese so her head is messed up big time there are a lot of cultures of color who don,t like these people she follows. sports stars don,t know anything about these things they just cry about how unfair the world is without any facts or stats to back them up, its not good for their careers anyway always going to have people who hate them. also these sports stars can just say stuff off camera? not put in people faces ok so I want people to be treated the same but not the way it is in the usa burning down shops, houses hurting old people ect... like them people that Osaka follows. its not right to blame other cultures for your own life you should only blame your own people thats it, finally a real woman would not cry sadly after winning a major NO they cry in joy of their win osaka is a little girl who know nothing about western history or any other country in the world. also not everyone wants to see her on the beach almost naked and a lot of people told her this as well its rude NO?
 
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yes thats I saying as woman of color it has nothing to do with her at all its not her culture and only family friends should gave their opinion Also, shes not African American and only part Japanese so her head is messed up big time there are a lot of cultures of color who don,t like these the people she follows. sports stars don,t know anything about these things they just cry about how unfair the world is without any facts or stats to back them up, its good for their careers anyway always going to have people who hate them. also these sports stars can just say stuff off camera? not put in people faces ok so I want people to be treated the same but not the way it is in the usa burning down shops, houses hurting old people ect... like them people that Osaka follows. its not right to blame other cultures for your own life you should only blame your own people thats it, finally a real woman would not cry sadly after winning a major NO they cry in joy of their win osaka is a little girl who know nothing about western history or any other country in the world. also not everyone wants to see her on the beach almost naked and a lot of people told her this as well its rude NO?
Wow, you have a lot of issues. And unfair prejudices. Why do athletes of color lose their voice because they play sports? Why should they most specifically not get to speak out, when their talent gets used, but they are underrepresented in management? And how is Osaka not offered a voice in this? You're splitting hairs as to her background, and that is about as icky and racist a thing as anyone has said around here lately, and that's a low bar. Apart from the bit about family friends having the only right to an opinion. And the notion that people are blaming "other cultures," as if we're not one people. And then we get back to a photo of her on the beach? You have a lot to work out, IMO. I've always thought you were a troll. Now I see that you are also a racist.
 
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Wow, you have a lot of issues. And unfair prejudices. Why do athletes of color lose their voice because they play sports? Why should they most specifically not get to speak out, when their talent gets used, but they are underrepresented in management? And how is Osaka not offered a voice in this? You're splitting hairs as to her background, and that is about as icky and racist a thing as anyone has said around here lately, and that's a low bar. Apart from the bit about family friends having the only right to an opinion. And the notion that people are blaming "other cultures," as if we're not one people. And then we get back to a photo of her on the beach? You have a lot to work out, IMO. I've always thought you were a troll. Now I see that you are also a racist.
look for you to say IM racist just for standing up for European people is crazy anyone who knows me will back this up I love all cultures, and even think mexico woman are really good looking just not as good looking as European women, Also I IM standing for people of dark skin tone because its going to mean more then a western person says these things a lot more people will listen. I agree we are all one race we all know this, but most people die because they doing evil things god not going to like this it does not matter that culture you are their are laws for everyone. do you think its ok to say for people to say we want dead cops then do we want them now? have you even ever seen me post anything bad about monfils FFA Ashe NO thats because I love them as both players and people don,t cry babys like osaka by the way shes a great player and could even 10 plus majors but needs to keep opinion things to herself I don,t see her standing up for Japanese people? which makes her evil because her mom japanese don,t you think any great win by her even if Azarenka in her prime have won easy.
 

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look for you to say IM racist just for standing up for European people is crazy anyone who knows me will back this up I love all cultures, and even think mexico woman are really good looking just not as good looking as European women, Also I IM standing for people of dark skin tone because its going to mean more then a western person says these things a lot more people will listen. I agree we are all one race we all know this, but most people die because they doing evil things god not going to like this it does not matter that culture you are their are laws for everyone. do you think its ok to say for people to say we want dead cops then do we want them now? have you even ever seen me post anything bad about monfils FFA Ashe NO thats because I love them as both players and people don,t cry babys like osaka by the way shes a great player and could even 10 plus majors but needs to keep opinion things to herself I don,t see her standing up for Japanese people? which makes her evil because her mom japanese don,t you think any great win by her even if Azarenka in her prime have won easy.
What "European" people were you standing up for? We haven't discussed one European, until you brought in Monfils, just above. Your incoherent rant speaks for itself.

You mention Arthur Ashe. He was an activist. You have no problem with that, but you don't like Naomi being one. Explain to me the difference.
 

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What "European" people were you standing up for? We haven't discussed one European, until you brought in Monfils, just above. Your incoherent rant speaks for itself.

You mention Arthur Ashe. He was an activist. You have no problem with that, but you don't like Naomi being one. Explain to me the difference.
well white Americans are just European and thats I was talking about lack of knowledge much? but I Don,t want say everything in black and white like you so I say us Europeans or western people understand OK good now. also saying I think European women are best looking is just opinion not hate, so Ashe never Acted like a vitcim unlike osaka, and hes a player from like 50 years so we I don,t care anyway hes to loved no matter that he said also did wear t-shirts of hate groups again unlike osaka who never stands up for Japanese people who been pick on by other cultures finally like jessie lee peterson said theres NO such thing as racism its just good vs. evil. .finnally ashe was African American it hes own culture so its Ok for him say these things unlike osaka whos mixed not even her culture
 
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well white Americans are just European and thats I was talking about lack of knowledge much? but I Don,t want say everything in black and white like you so I say us Europeans or western people understand OK good now. also saying I think European women are best looking is just opinion not hate, so Ashe never Acted like a vitcim unlike osaka, and hes a player from like 50 years so we I don,t care anyway hes to loved no matter that he said also did wear t-shirts of hate groups again unlike osaka who never stands up for Japanese people who been pick on by other cultures finally like jessie lee peterson said theres NO such thing as racism its just good vs. evil. .finnally ashe was African American it hes own culture so its Ok for him say these things unlike osaka whos mixed not even her culture
"White" Americans are not Europeans. Americans are not Europeans. Also, what has ever been called "white" has certainly been a moving target, even including Europeans. Italians and Irish didn't used to be "white," OK? Has this bit of history escaped your knowledge? And now with you and the random comments about which women are better looking? Is this how you have a conversation about race and history?

Moving on: aside from the fact that your post is nearly incomprehensible, I will pull out a couple of things: 1) Ashe never acted like a victim, and neither has Osaka; 2) although Arthur Ashe did die a long time ago, we still care what he stood for. Aside from being a race pioneer, he came out as having AIDS, when that was a hard thing to do; 3) Yes, there IS such a thing as racism. You've basically just demonstrated it. It's not "good v. evil" in this world. When you say Ashe had authority to speak about it, and Osaka has none, and you speak of "their culture," you are espousing racist theology. You are trying to say who gets to identify in what way, and how they should be allowed to speak. That's a muzzling. You really don't get to say how people identify and how they should speak out. Why should any of us get to muzzle people? And how is it that you get to say how Osaka identifies, or what group she can speak for or not?
 

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"White" Americans are not Europeans. Americans are not Europeans. Also, what has ever been called "white" has certainly been a moving target, even including Europeans. Italians and Irish didn't used to be "white," OK? Has this bit of history escaped your knowledge? And now with you and the random comments about which women are better looking? Is this how you have a conversation about race and history?

Moving on: aside from the fact that your post is nearly incomprehensible, I will pull out a couple of things: 1) Ashe never acted like a victim, and neither has Osaka; 2) although Arthur Ashe did die a long time ago, we still care what he stood for. Aside from being a race pioneer, he came out as having AIDS, when that was a hard thing to do; 3) Yes, there IS such a thing as racism. You've basically just demonstrated it. It's not "good v. evil" in this world. When you say Ashe had authority to speak about it, and Osaka has none, and you speak of "their culture," you are espousing racist theology. You are trying to say who gets to identify in what way, and how they should be allowed to speak. That's a muzzling. You really don't get to say how people identify and how they should speak out. Why should any of us get to muzzle people? And how is it that you get to say how Osaka identifies, or what group she can speak for or not?
white Americans are European don,t believe me go at your DNA its all going be European so yes DNA wise we are All European we all kids of the British and Spanish French ect..... Theres NO such thing as American race its All from Europe I don,t care that you think about that everything else is just your countrys culture again lack of knowledge. second theres such thing NO as racism if there was I myself would a milllon air not, osaka tiger woods ect. 3rd you meant to stand up for all cultures not just one like osaka does and I she acts like a victim everytime she says how unfair the world its not to do this from anyone All lives matter not just one. also did not know you have aids get that fixed, it is good vs. evil and its always been like this. and yes if I not from that culture I Will not act like I know thats going on in it like cry baby osaka, again Asians getting picked because of covid-19 and she said noting even I said about it LOL.
 
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white Americans are European don,t believe me go at your DNA its all going be European so yes DNA wise we are All European we all kids of the British and Spanish French ect..... Theres NO such as American race its All from Europe don,t care that you think about that everything else is just your countrys culture again lack of knowledge. second theres such thing NO as racism if there was I myself would a milllon air not, osaka tiger woods ect. 3rd you meant to stand up for all cultures not just one like osaka does and I she acts like a victim everytime she says how unfair the world its not to do this from anyone All lives matter not just one. also did not know you have aids get that fixed, it is good vs. evil and its always been like this. and yes if I not from that culture I Will not act like I know thats going on in it like cry baby osaka, again Asians getting picked because of covid-19 and she said noting even I said about it LOL.
When you can write a coherent paragraph, I will respond. Until then, I've said my bit.