2016 Wimbledon Championships - Men (London Sidewalk Cafe Discussions II)

[Moxie]

I can't believe still after to win that year and also 2010 why Rafa played so badly after

It's not merely a matter of Rafa playing so badly after 2010. 2011 he made the final and Djokovic was well in his head. 2012 Rosol, it should be remembered, played the match of his career, before or since. And it was a bit of bad luck that they decided to preventively close the roof after the 4th set, which Rafa won, and when he had the momentum. The delay was about 45 minutes. 2013: Darcis was a fluke, since Rafa had been winning much up until that point. 2014 Kyrgios also played one of the matches of his career to date. And Dustin Brown was the wrong guy to start with when his confidence was in the toilet, anyway. I know some folks like to say that Rafa struggles in the first week at Wimbledon before the grass gets beaten down. This is not wholly true. His footwork is very good, and he's really fast. After his knees became an issue, however, he struggled more to get low to the ball on grass. It's not that mysterious, and there has been some bad luck involved, in terms of draw, and hot players on a good day for them. But the effect has also been cumulative in terms of confidence.

 

[Billie]

OOP for tomorrow:

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/index.html

Nole, Fed, Nishikori, Raonic all start tomorrow. Fingers crossed for some nice weather in the next 2 weeks.

 

[Carol]

It's not merely a matter of Rafa playing so badly after 2010. 2011 he made the final and Djokovic was well in his head. 2012 Rosol, it should be remembered, played the match of his career, before or since. And it was a bit of bad luck that they decided to preventively close the roof after the 4th set, which Rafa won, and when he had the momentum. The delay was about 45 minutes. 2013: Darcis was a fluke, since Rafa had been winning much up until that point. 2014 Kyrgios also played one of the matches of his career to date. And Dustin Brown was the wrong guy to start with when his confidence was in the toilet, anyway. I know some folks like to say that Rafa struggles in the first week at Wimbledon before the grass gets beaten down. This is not wholly true. His footwork is very good, and he's really fast. After his knees became an issue, however, he struggled more to get low to the ball on grass. It's not that mysterious, and there has been some bad luck involved, in terms of draw, and hot players on a good day for them. But the effect has also been cumulative in terms of confidence.

Yep, I remember well, Rosol played well but right after it was when Rafa had to choose to be through an intensive treatment with his knee or his career would be finished for ever. Kyrgios and his 37 aces....he lost the next match and he never has been able to repeat that service...maybe this year?. But against Darcis and Brown was a awful surprise, I've never understood why Rafa lost those matches

 

[Moxie]

Yep, I remember well, Rosol played well but right after it was when Rafa had to choose to be through an intensive treatment with his knee or his career would be finished for ever. Kyrgios and his 37 aces....he lost the next match and he never has been able to repeat that service...maybe this year?. But against Darcis and Brown was a awful surprise, I've never understood why Rafa lost those matches

Darcis is just "shit happens." Stakhovsky beating Federer was one of those, and even more of a surprise. @brokenshoelace called Dustin Brown out as a potential banana peel last year. Frankly, Rafa was losing to everyone last year. Why not to a guy who had already beaten him on grass?

 

[Carol]

Darcis is just "shit happens." Stakhovsky beating Federer was one of those, and even more of a surprise. @brokenshoelace called Dustin Brown out as a potential banana peel last year. Frankly, Rafa was losing to everyone last year. Why not to a guy who had already beaten him on grass?

It's true, Rafa last year lost to everyone even on clay, what a !

 

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Monday Order of Play - Show Courts.

Centre Court

1-Novak Djokovic (Serbia) v James Ward (Britain)

Camila Giorgi (Italy) v 2-Garbine Muguruza (Spain)

3-Roger Federer (Switzerland) v Guido Pella (Argentina)

Court One

8-Venus Williams (U.S.) v Donna Vekic (Croatia)

Sam Groth (Australia) v 5-Kei Nishikori (Japan)

Laura Robson (Britain) v 4-Angelique Kerber (Germany)

Court Two (play starts at 1030 GMT)

Kyle Edmund (Britain) v Adrian Mannarino (France)

Laura Siegemund (Germany) v 9-Madison Keys (U.S.)

Pablo Carreno Busta (Spain) v 6-Milos Raonic (Canada)

5-Simona Halep (Romania) v Anna Karolina Schmiedlova (Slovakia)

 

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Kyle Edmond already down two sets against Mannarino.

 

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James Ward getting blown out by Djoker. 6-0 3-0 so far.

 

[Tennis Fan]

After one year married Feliciano is asking the divorce so I don't know how his mind is going through....

Unreal. Hate to hear that.

 

[britbox]

Results from the Wimbledon Men's Singles Round 1 matches on Monday
Grigor Dimitrov (Bulgaria) beat Bjorn Fratangelo (U.S.) 6-3 6-4 6-2
1-Novak Djokovic (Serbia) beat James Ward (Britain) 6-0 7-6(3) 6-4
Damir Dzumhur (Bosnia and Herzegovina) beat Denis Kudla (U.S.) 7-6(5) 7-5 2-6 1-6 6-3
Nicolas Almagro (Spain) beat Rogerio Dutra Silva (Brazil) 6-3 7-6(6) 5-7 3-6 6-3
Lukas Lacko (Slovakia) beat Paolo Lorenzi (Italy) 6-4 6-7(5) 7-5 6-3
13-David Ferrer (Spain) beat Dudi Sela (Israel) 6-2 6-1 6-1
23-Ivo Karlovic (Croatia) beat Borna Coric (Croatia) 7-6(8) 7-6(7) 6-4
Adrian Mannarino (France) beat Kyle Edmund (Britain) 6-2 7-5 6-4
Pierre-Hugues Herbert (France) beat 21-Philipp Kohlschreiber (Germany) 7-5 6-3 3-6 6-3
9-Marin Cilic (Croatia) beat Brian Baker (U.S.) 6-3 7-5 6-3
Sergiy Stakhovsky (Ukraine) beat Yoshihito Nishioka (Japan) 6-3 6-4 6-4

Kohli going down in 4 sets to Pierre Hughes-Herbert probably the biggest shock of the day so far....

 

[Tennis Fan]

Results from the Wimbledon Men's Singles Round 1 matches on Monday
Grigor Dimitrov (Bulgaria) beat Bjorn Fratangelo (U.S.) 6-3 6-4 6-2
1-Novak Djokovic (Serbia) beat James Ward (Britain) 6-0 7-6(3) 6-4
Damir Dzumhur (Bosnia and Herzegovina) beat Denis Kudla (U.S.) 7-6(5) 7-5 2-6 1-6 6-3
Nicolas Almagro (Spain) beat Rogerio Dutra Silva (Brazil) 6-3 7-6(6) 5-7 3-6 6-3
Lukas Lacko (Slovakia) beat Paolo Lorenzi (Italy) 6-4 6-7(5) 7-5 6-3
13-David Ferrer (Spain) beat Dudi Sela (Israel) 6-2 6-1 6-1
23-Ivo Karlovic (Croatia) beat Borna Coric (Croatia) 7-6(8) 7-6(7) 6-4
Adrian Mannarino (France) beat Kyle Edmund (Britain) 6-2 7-5 6-4
Pierre-Hugues Herbert (France) beat 21-Philipp Kohlschreiber (Germany) 7-5 6-3 3-6 6-3
9-Marin Cilic (Croatia) beat Brian Baker (U.S.) 6-3 7-5 6-3
Sergiy Stakhovsky (Ukraine) beat Yoshihito Nishioka (Japan) 6-3 6-4 6-4

Kohli going down in 4 sets to Pierre Hughes-Herbert probably the biggest shock of the day so far....

I know. I kept seeing the ticker, but they were only saying that Kohlschreiber was the first seed out, but I never saw who beat him. Good win fro Hughes-Herbert. If I remember correctly I like his game. Still hate to see Kohli go though. I like him.

 

[EdbergsGhost]

Pierre-Hugues Herbert (France) beat 21-Philipp Kohlschreiber (Germany) 7-5 6-3 3-6 6-3
Kohli going down in 4 sets to Pierre Hugues-Herbert probably the biggest shock of the day so far....

Pierre Hugues Herbert is one of the top doubles players in the world pairing with Mahut. He has a good serve and nice volley. Still an upset, but not as much if you know how the young man plays. One would guess Kohli might be a little tired too.