2015 Paris Master's Nolandy final

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nehmeth

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Fiero425 said:
...or with old man Federer! It's strange how Murray has so much trouble with these 2 players! It's as if he plays right into their hands overshooting, getting all pumped up after a few consecutive points, but in the end going down in flames in straight sets!

Andy was up 3-2 in the second, dictating and having success. It was imperative for Novak to hold serve and stop the bleeding. He upped his game and you could see Murray go from dictating to pressing the points, netting a backhand down the line attempt. It was pretty much over from there on.

Novak has now won 10 of his last 11 meetings with Murray.
 

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Murray goes away. The lad has serious issues and I don't think that he's addressing them. So where Novak and Roger get serious in a match, he's lost that knack and he founders about. I know where the problem lies, been like a scratched record on this one, but when a 34 year old is making you look like the player who's winding down, then the problem is critical. Novak and Andy were a lot closer a few years ago, but where Novak has taken his opportunities, Andy is a bloke who's still looking like he's there to make up the numbers...
 

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The only thing that can possibly bother Novak these days is when an opponent is VERY aggressive with power. The only guys who can do that on tour today are Federer (on a fast surface when he's "on", e.g., Cincinnati) and Wawrinka on a slower surface. Berdych did well against Novak in the Paris quarters because he played super aggressive, accurate power tennis---and he came close but no cigar.
 

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Go Nole! I knew he needed to take back the most masters in a season record after Rafa tied him in 2013. Even though there hasn't been somebody consistently pushing him like 2011, this season has been unreal.
 

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Will Djoker get tired for London, or he can hold it for one more ?
 

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Mile said:
Will Djoker get tired for London, or he can hold it for one more ?

Tired? From what? He's hardly playing long matches... ;)
 

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Congrats to Novak, just pooh-poohing the #2. The difference between #1 and #2 has never bee larger I would say.

Now that is 3 out of 4 GS and 6 out of 8 Masters. He is taking 75% of all big titles. :clap :clap :clap
 

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Riotbeard said:
Go Nole! I knew he needed to take back the most masters in a season record after Rafa tied him in 2013. Even though there hasn't been somebody consistently pushing him like 2011, this season has been unreal.

There is one guy who has been pushing him all year.... Novak Djokovic.

Nole quote: "If you are going for the perfection, you might reach excellence," the 10-time Grand Slam champion said after dispatching Murray in 1 hour, 33 minutes. "That's the kind of mind set I have."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/tennis/2015/11/08/djokovic-easily-beats-murray-to-win-paris-masters-title/75412776/
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
Congrats to Novak, just pooh-poohing the #2. The difference between #1 and #2 has never bee larger I would say.

Now that is 3 out of 4 GS and 6 out of 8 Masters. He is taking 75% of all big titles. :clap :clap :clap

His detractors here and elsewhere will have to come up with more ludicrous ways to undermine this achievement! I can imagine the delusional beginnings as I post! :puzzled :nono :angel: :dodgy: :cover :p
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
Congrats to Novak, just pooh-poohing the #2. The difference between #1 and #2 has never bee larger I would say.

Now that is 3 out of 4 GS and 6 out of 8 Masters. He is taking 75% of all big titles. :clap :clap :clap

In all the three big events that he did not win, he was in the finals. This means, he basically lost just 1,600 points (800 at RG and 400 each in the two NA Masters) out of 16,000 points ( 4 * 2000 GS and 8 *1000 Masters) available at the big events he played in. That means he won 90% of all the BIG points. :clap
 

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He now has two of the five or six greatest seasons in the Open Era since Laver--2015 and 2011 (in that order). Only Fed in 2006 stands with Nole's 2015. Roger also has 2007 and 2004 and then you have Rafa in 2010. Simply unreal stuff from the Serbian; he is now clearly proven himself one of the top ten players in Open Era history.
 

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[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLEj25EadKE[/video]
 

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Here's the Brain Game analysis by Craig O'Shannessy on the ATP site:

Is it more important to hit the ball where you want to hit it, or more important to hit it where your opponent does not want it?

That was the puzzle Andy Murray could not solve, as Novak Djokovic rolled to a 6-2, 6-4 victory in the final of the BNP Paribas Masters. What works so well for Murray against everyone else in the world is controlling the ad court with his rock-solid backhand, and then opening up angles to attack.
But not against Djokovic. Not even close.

Murray is the second best baseliner in the world in today’s game, but the gap between Djokovic and the rest of the field only seems to be getting wider. In the opening set, Djokovic completely controlled the back of the court, winning 69 per cent (27/39) of baseline points. Overall, the Serb won 67 per cent (47/70) of baseline points for the match, which is a massive advantage that allows the rest of his game to flow freely.

Djokovic’s real advantage came in mid-length rallies of five to nine shots where he stole the show, winning 68 per cent (28/41) of points, as both players tried to force their baseline patterns on the opponent. Murray actually won the longer rallies over nine shots (10-8), but with so few rallies getting this far, it simply wasn’t enough to make an impact on the final outcome.

The real key to Djokovic’s dominance was the backhand-to-backhand arm wrestle in the ad court. Murray made 25 backhand errors to Djokovic’s 11, shutting down the Brit’s strength, and making him bend to his own intentions. The quality of Murray’s backhand errors also speaks to the pressure Djokovic was putting him under in their baseline exchanges.

The number one backhand error by far from Murray was into the net with 13. Djokovic was often making contact standing closer to the baseline, which enabled better depth, and took time away from Murray’s preparation, hence the high number of net errors. Murray also made eight backhand errors long, three wide cross-court, and only one wide down the line. Murray did go to “Plan B” by coming forward to the net, winning 79 per cent (11/14) approaching, and two of three serving and volleying. The problem here for Murray is sheer volume, as dominating 17 points at the net does not come close to negating the 70 points Djokovic controlled from the back of the court.

Djokovic also applied pressure with his deep returns right down the middle, giving no angle for Murray to initially hurt him with. Murray won only 35 per cent (11/31) of his second serve points, as he often had to get out of the way of a deep Djokovic return hit right at him. The deep middle return is a hidden gem in Djokovic’s suffocating game plan. Leading into the Paris final, he had hit 49 per cent of his returns to the middle area of the court, 38 per cent wide in the ad court, and only 13 per cent wide in the deuce court. The middle of the court is a great way for Djokovic to begin the point, enabling him to then dictate from the middle of the court with his first shot after the return.

Djokovic’s forehand produced four winners, but more importantly only made eight groundstroke errors to Murray’s 19. A key pattern of play for Djokovic was to attack Murray’s forehand on the run in the deuce court, forcing Murray to make 15 of his 19 errors standing in the deuce, including seven running hard out wide near the deuce court alley. In the opening set, Murray hit 56 per cent of his forehands down the line, but 95 per cent (18/21) of those were down the line to Djokovic’s impenetrable backhand wing.
Djokovic hit 51 per cent of his forehands down the line in the opening set, and his seven inside-in forehands to Murray’s forehand primarily landed deep and close to the line in the deuce court. Beating an in-form Djokovic is a complex jigsaw puzzle of playing more to his forehand and getting to the net more than feels comfortable.

Simply hitting more winners clearly doesn’t work, as Murray hit 20 winners to the Serb’s 10 for the match, while Murray committed 34 unforced errors to Djokovic’s 12.

Djokovic makes everyone on the planet bend to his rules of engagement, and unless you have got several plans of attack mixed at exactly the right time, the Serb’s reign as the world’s best player is only getting stronger.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/paris-2015-final-djokovic-brain-game