2014 ATP 1000 Masters Bercy Final: Djokovic v. Raonic

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Denis

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Novak lives in a French speaking country and he likes to learn languages. Nothing wrong with making an effort to speak in the native language of most of the crowd.

What would you guys think if he started speaking Serbian at the US Open trophy ceremony next year?
 

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Denisovich said:
Novak lives in a French speaking country and he likes to learn languages. Nothing wrong with making an effort to speak in the native language of most of the crowd.

What would you guys think if he started speaking Serbian at the US Open trophy ceremony next year?

May I say Novak speaks very good Italian,I have heard him speak at the Rome tournament a few times now,when I have gone to that tournament.As a Italian myself he passes with flying colours....:cool:
 

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Milos didn't bawl his eyes out on the podium, also imitating Roger, no? He didn't say, "this is killing me!" Because if he did, I think it's smarmy as hell and he should get his own act, and stop copying others... :ras:
 

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Kieran said:
Milos didn't bawl his eyes out on the podium, also imitating Roger, no? He didn't say, "this is killing me!" Because if he did, I think it's smarmy as hell and he should get his own act, and stop copying others... :ras:

Hmmm someone has had their full cup of cream today....;)

It will be too long before the 2015 season starts and you can give your full attention to 'you know who'......;)
 

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fashionista said:
Kieran said:
Milos didn't bawl his eyes out on the podium, also imitating Roger, no? He didn't say, "this is killing me!" Because if he did, I think it's smarmy as hell and he should get his own act, and stop copying others... :ras:

Hmmm someone has had their full cup of cream today....;)

It will be too long before the 2015 season starts and you can give your full attention to 'you know who'......;)

Yeah, it shows how much tennis misses Ralph, when the aftermath of a big final is spent arguing about what languages the players can speak and whose mother is from where... ;)
 

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fashionista said:
Denisovich said:
Novak lives in a French speaking country and he likes to learn languages. Nothing wrong with making an effort to speak in the native language of most of the crowd.

What would you guys think if he started speaking Serbian at the US Open trophy ceremony next year?

May I say Novak speaks very good Italian,I have heard him speak at the Rome tournament a few times now,when I have gone to that tournament.As a Italian myself he passes with flying colours....:cool:

Yes I remember listening to him. He seemed far more accomplished speaking Italian than French. Which isn't surprising given the proximity I suppose.

Don't mind me, I'm a bit cynical. Just have a low fakery tolerance level generally :) Was just expressing my opinion.. which of course is what the boards are all about! I'm sure they'll keep on doing what they do. I'm just not going to buy it..
 

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Kieran said:
fashionista said:
Kieran said:
Milos didn't bawl his eyes out on the podium, also imitating Roger, no? He didn't say, "this is killing me!" Because if he did, I think it's smarmy as hell and he should get his own act, and stop copying others... :ras:

Hmmm someone has had their full cup of cream today....;)

It will be too long before the 2015 season starts and you can give your full attention to 'you know who'......;)

Yeah, it shows how much tennis misses Ralph, when the aftermath of a big final is spent arguing about what languages the players can speak and whose mother is from where... ;)

Yeah, really miss those discussions about butt-picking, time violations and Uncle fricking Toni.

Looking forward to the WTF.
 

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Roger grew up in a country where most of people will learn French from childhood. So it is not a fair comparison to begin with.

Also, Federers mother is French.

Actually, she's from South Africa. Quite a way away, that.

Yes she is from South Africa but Linette (born Durand) is French.

Everything I looked up online says she's South African. Nothing about her being French. I could be wrong but I haven't seen anything to support it.
 

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Denisovich said:
Novak lives in a French speaking country and he likes to learn languages. Nothing wrong with making an effort to speak in the native language of most of the crowd.

What would you guys think if he started speaking Serbian at the US Open trophy ceremony next year?


I absolutely fail to understand this analogy. I mean, I know what you're trying to say, but it's not the same at all.
 

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Yes, she's South African. French my arse. Actually my arse is somewhat French I guess since my dad's side of the family are French :p
 

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Denisovich said:
Kieran said:
fashionista said:
Kieran said:
Milos didn't bawl his eyes out on the podium, also imitating Roger, no? He didn't say, "this is killing me!" Because if he did, I think it's smarmy as hell and he should get his own act, and stop copying others... :ras:

Hmmm someone has had their full cup of cream today....;)

It will be too long before the 2015 season starts and you can give your full attention to 'you know who'......;)

Yeah, it shows how much tennis misses Ralph, when the aftermath of a big final is spent arguing about what languages the players can speak and whose mother is from where... ;)

Yeah, really miss those discussions about butt-picking, time violations and Uncle fricking Toni.

Looking forward to the WTF.

Actually, those discussions are never started by Nadal fans, so you guys have yourselves to blame on that one. Maybe you should be less obsessed with Rafa's ass ;)
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
Denisovich said:
Novak lives in a French speaking country and he likes to learn languages. Nothing wrong with making an effort to speak in the native language of most of the crowd.

What would you guys think if he started speaking Serbian at the US Open trophy ceremony next year?


I absolutely fail to understand this analogy. I mean, I know what you're trying to say, but it's not the same at all.

What is there not to understand. It is the same. Or maybe not for those Americans who think the world evolves around them.
 

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Anyway, Federberg derailed this thread with a silly bit of Fedfan stuff.

Nole and Roger are the form players since the US Open, so a match between them in london would be great - especially if it's a semifinal, with it all at stake, eh?
 

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It would be nice if Novak finishes second in his group and Roger finishes as unbeaten #1 of
his group and then they meet in SF.

Then that SF would become a must win match for Novak in order to attain YE #1 ranking.
 

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Kieran said:
Anyway, Federberg derailed this thread with a silly bit of Fedfan stuff.

Nole and Roger are the form players since the US Open, so a match between them in london would be great - especially if it's a semifinal, with it all at stake, eh?

Yeah probably for the neutral viewer. Lots of points on the line for next year, so I just hope Novak gets the full 1500. Don't know if Roger will be as good next year as he is this year, so maybe I wouldn't mind him taking some points off Murray if they meet.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
It would be nice if Novak finishes second in his group and Roger finishes as unbeaten #1 of
his group and then they meet in SF.

Then that SF would become a must win match for Novak in order to attain YE #1 ranking.

Exactly. I know Novak is favourite heading into the event, but having to win 3 matches isn't a six inch putt. He'll have to be sharp, and if he struggles in the first match - for example - it might get tricky.

When is the draw?
 

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Denisovich said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
Denisovich said:
Novak lives in a French speaking country and he likes to learn languages. Nothing wrong with making an effort to speak in the native language of most of the crowd.

What would you guys think if he started speaking Serbian at the US Open trophy ceremony next year?


I absolutely fail to understand this analogy. I mean, I know what you're trying to say, but it's not the same at all.

What is there not to understand. It is the same. Or maybe not for those Americans who think the world evolves around them.

I'm not American, and yet I understand that in the tennis world, English is the universal language. There's a reason umpires say the scoreline in English in most countries, or at least say it in two languages, one of which being English (the exception is RG where they just say it in French). Tennis players conduct press conferences in English for the most part. It has nothing to do with Americans thinking the world revolves around them.

So if you go to New York, where everyone speaks English, and you're a very fluent English speaker like Novak, and suddenly speak in Serbian, it's at best, really, really odd. Whereas speaking English in a non-English speaking country if you don't really have a strong grasp on said country's main language, is the norm.

How do you seriously not spot the difference between the two?
 

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Kieran said:
GameSetAndMath said:
It would be nice if Novak finishes second in his group and Roger finishes as unbeaten #1 of
his group and then they meet in SF.

Then that SF would become a must win match for Novak in order to attain YE #1 ranking.

Exactly. I know Novak is favourite heading into the event, but having to win 3 matches isn't a six inch putt. He'll have to be sharp, and if he struggles in the first match - for example - it might get tricky.

Well, the man has not lost an indoor match for 2 years and 1 week now. It may be a six inch putt for Novak, who knows?
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
Denisovich said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
Denisovich said:
Novak lives in a French speaking country and he likes to learn languages. Nothing wrong with making an effort to speak in the native language of most of the crowd.

What would you guys think if he started speaking Serbian at the US Open trophy ceremony next year?


I absolutely fail to understand this analogy. I mean, I know what you're trying to say, but it's not the same at all.

What is there not to understand. It is the same. Or maybe not for those Americans who think the world evolves around them.

I'm not American, and yet I understand that in the tennis world, English is the universal language. There's a reason umpires say the scoreline in English in most countries, or at least say it in two languages, one of which being English (the exception is RG where they just say it in French). Tennis players conduct press conferences in English for the most part. It has nothing to do with Americans thinking the world revolves around them.

So if you go to New York, where everyone speaks English, and you're a very fluent English speaker like Novak, and suddenly speak in Serbian, it's at best, really, really odd. Whereas speaking English in a non-English speaking country if you don't really have a strong grasp on said country's main language, is the norm.

How do you seriously not spot the difference between the two?

It has nothing to do with the tennis world, but with the audience you are addressing at the ceremony. For one thing, it is better to avoid speaking English when in Paris, trust me. If you do speak the language, albeit not very good, I personally think that as a courtesy to the crowd it is better to address them in their own language.
 

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Kieran said:
fashionista said:
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Milos didn't bawl his eyes out on the podium, also imitating Roger, no? He didn't say, "this is killing me!" Because if he did, I think it's smarmy as hell and he should get his own act, and stop copying others... :ras:

Hmmm someone has had their full cup of cream today....;)

It will be too long before the 2015 season starts and you can give your full attention to 'you know who'......;)

Yeah, it shows how much tennis misses Ralph, when the aftermath of a big final is spent arguing about what languages the players can speak and whose mother is from where... ;)

surely you have some new players you might be a fan of that may be awesome in the future like borna coric or (dare I speak his name).. nick kygrios.

nishikori looks like he might be at the top table more in the future too..:idea: