2013 Davis Cup World Group semifinals and play-offs

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Now that two Swiss players are in top 10, Can they make a run next year
at the Davis Cup?
 
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Federer leads Raonic 4-0
Federer 6-4, 7-6(4), 6-2 hard
Federer 6-7(4), 6-4, 7-6(3) grass
Federer 4-6, 7-5, 7-6(4) clay
Federer 6-7(4), 6-2, 6-4 hard

Raonic leads Murray 2-1
Raonic 6-3, 6-7(5), 7-6(4) hard
Murray 6-4, 6-4, 6-2 hard
Raonic 6-4, 7-6(3) clay

Nadal leads Raonic 4-0
Nadal 6-2, 6-2 hard
Nadal 6-4, 6-0 clay
Nadal 7-5, 6-3 hard
Nadal 6-4, 6-4 hard

Raonic vs Djokovic
?
 

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Looks like Novak took Milos to the woodshed. All tied up in Serbia....
 

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Pospisil seems to be trying to tough it out.
 

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yay..Britain back in the world goup of 16 for the first time since 2008..we prob gonna get relegated again unless some guys play above usual level, or improve..as we have andy and 'the rest' (rank the rubbish side of 150)

kyle Edmund should be in the squad even if not play him next feb.. if it dosnt clash with futures/challenger events.
 
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Federer leads Raonic 4-0
Federer 6-4, 7-6(4), 6-2 hard
Federer 6-7(4), 6-4, 7-6(3) grass
Federer 4-6, 7-5, 7-6(4) clay
Federer 6-7(4), 6-2, 6-4 hard

Raonic leads Murray 2-1
Raonic 6-3, 6-7(5), 7-6(4) hard
Murray 6-4, 6-4, 6-2 hard
Raonic 6-4, 7-6(3) clay

Nadal leads Raonic 4-0
Nadal 6-2, 6-2 hard
Nadal 6-4, 6-0 clay
Nadal 7-5, 6-3 hard
Nadal 6-4, 6-4 hard

Raonic vs Djokovic
?

Djokovic def. Raonic 7-6 6-2 6-2
 

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Tough loss for Pospisil, but he's had a break-through year, wouldn't you say, Murat? And I think this is the farthest that Canada has ever gotten.

Who did the Serbs play last time they won DC? This isn't a rematch, is it? Also, do we know who is hosting?
 

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Riotbeard said:
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Thanks for the heads-up, Iona and JLLB. I'm looking forward to checking out the new kid.

Gotta feel for Argentina. They don't have their big guns, and Nalbandian, who wants to play for it and win it so much, is unlikely to get his chance this year. Serbia should take Canada, too. Does Djokovic get another "Davis Cup Bump" from this run? :cool:

You read my optimistic Novak fan mind! I hope so. He and Nadal both seem to really take playing for country to heart unlike Fed and Andy. Not that those guys don't care, but it doesn't seem to be a priority.

I do think Andy has been unfairly criticised when it comes to Davis Cup. Great Britain don't have 5-10 guys in the top 50-100. We have Andy. That is it. The player that occupies the British no.2 ranking is usually hovering around the 200 mark. How many other countries have ONE player in the top 200? On many occasions Andy turned up and won both his rubbers only to see us lose the tie. It's hard to win a tie when you're the only elite player. We ended up in the E&A zone II. Even in those ties we were still the favourites when Andy didn't play. We still lost. Andy felt the other players had to step up. The GB captain agreed and he said Andy could do more for British tennis by concentrating on his own career. I think he has done just that. Andy has done his bit for team GB over the years. This weekend he won both his singles matches and the doubles with Colin Fleming and we're back in the world group.

I think it's easier for other top players to prioritise Davis Cup when they have a team capable of winning. Would the other top players play in the zones 2 tiers below the elite group? Possibly, but I doubt very much they'd be making those ties a priority in their schedule.
 

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Serbia is in the final. Normally I wouldn't care (after the U.S. gets knocked out), but it means a lot to Nole!
 

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Moxie629 said:
Tough loss for Pospisil, but he's had a break-through year, wouldn't you say, Murat? And I think this is the farthest that Canada has ever gotten.

Who did the Serbs play last time they won DC? This isn't a rematch, is it? Also, do we know who is hosting?

Serbia is hosting the final and so I would expect it to be on clay.
 

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Iona16 said:
Riotbeard said:
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Thanks for the heads-up, Iona and JLLB. I'm looking forward to checking out the new kid.

Gotta feel for Argentina. They don't have their big guns, and Nalbandian, who wants to play for it and win it so much, is unlikely to get his chance this year. Serbia should take Canada, too. Does Djokovic get another "Davis Cup Bump" from this run? :cool:

You read my optimistic Novak fan mind! I hope so. He and Nadal both seem to really take playing for country to heart unlike Fed and Andy. Not that those guys don't care, but it doesn't seem to be a priority.

I do think Andy has been unfairly criticised when it comes to Davis Cup. Great Britain don't have 5-10 guys in the top 50-100. We have Andy. That is it. The player that occupies the British no.2 ranking is usually hovering around the 200 mark. How many other countries have ONE player in the top 200? On many occasions Andy turned up and won both his rubbers only to see us lose the tie. It's hard to win a tie when you're the only elite player. We ended up in the E&A zone II. Even in those ties we were still the favourites when Andy didn't play. We still lost. Andy felt the other players had to step up. The GB captain agreed and he said Andy could do more for British tennis by concentrating on his own career. I think he has done just that. Andy has done his bit for team GB over the years. This weekend he won both his singles matches and the doubles with Colin Fleming and we're back in the world group.

I think it's easier for other top players to prioritise Davis Cup when they have a team capable of winning. Would the other top players play in the zones 2 tiers below the elite group? Possibly, but I doubt very much they'd be making those ties a priority in their schedule.

Congrats on Britain winning, Iona! They do have that young Evans, so that's a help.

I'm not sure what you're complaining about Andy getting a hard time, but that could be local. You're right to say that players like Novak and Rafa play DC with a real chance of winning. Roger has been very much criticized for not playing for Switzerland, except when he has to, to qualify for the Olympics. I think there is nothing wrong with top players focusing on themselves, to the knock-on benefit of local tennis.

BTW: After a few of you mentioned young Brona Coric, I just realized he won the boys' singles at the USO this year. Clearly he is someone to watch.
 

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Iona16 said:
Riotbeard said:
Moxie629 said:
Thanks for the heads-up, Iona and JLLB. I'm looking forward to checking out the new kid.

Gotta feel for Argentina. They don't have their big guns, and Nalbandian, who wants to play for it and win it so much, is unlikely to get his chance this year. Serbia should take Canada, too. Does Djokovic get another "Davis Cup Bump" from this run? :cool:

You read my optimistic Novak fan mind! I hope so. He and Nadal both seem to really take playing for country to heart unlike Fed and Andy. Not that those guys don't care, but it doesn't seem to be a priority.

I do think Andy has been unfairly criticised when it comes to Davis Cup. Great Britain don't have 5-10 guys in the top 50-100. We have Andy. That is it. The player that occupies the British no.2 ranking is usually hovering around the 200 mark. How many other countries have ONE player in the top 200? On many occasions Andy turned up and won both his rubbers only to see us lose the tie. It's hard to win a tie when you're the only elite player. We ended up in the E&A zone II. Even in those ties we were still the favourites when Andy didn't play. We still lost. Andy felt the other players had to step up. The GB captain agreed and he said Andy could do more for British tennis by concentrating on his own career. I think he has done just that. Andy has done his bit for team GB over the years. This weekend he won both his singles matches and the doubles with Colin Fleming and we're back in the world group.

I think it's easier for other top players to prioritise Davis Cup when they have a team capable of winning. Would the other top players play in the zones 2 tiers below the elite group? Possibly, but I doubt very much they'd be making those ties a priority in their schedule.

To be fair, you guys have some capable doubles players. You only need three wins. But yes, he is hardly in the same position as nole and rafa, where there are strong #2 guys. Roger bother me much more, where they have the singles talent to be a real threat.
 

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Riotbeard said:
Iona16 said:
Riotbeard said:
Moxie629 said:
Thanks for the heads-up, Iona and JLLB. I'm looking forward to checking out the new kid.

Gotta feel for Argentina. They don't have their big guns, and Nalbandian, who wants to play for it and win it so much, is unlikely to get his chance this year. Serbia should take Canada, too. Does Djokovic get another "Davis Cup Bump" from this run? :cool:

You read my optimistic Novak fan mind! I hope so. He and Nadal both seem to really take playing for country to heart unlike Fed and Andy. Not that those guys don't care, but it doesn't seem to be a priority.

I do think Andy has been unfairly criticised when it comes to Davis Cup. Great Britain don't have 5-10 guys in the top 50-100. We have Andy. That is it. The player that occupies the British no.2 ranking is usually hovering around the 200 mark. How many other countries have ONE player in the top 200? On many occasions Andy turned up and won both his rubbers only to see us lose the tie. It's hard to win a tie when you're the only elite player. We ended up in the E&A zone II. Even in those ties we were still the favourites when Andy didn't play. We still lost. Andy felt the other players had to step up. The GB captain agreed and he said Andy could do more for British tennis by concentrating on his own career. I think he has done just that. Andy has done his bit for team GB over the years. This weekend he won both his singles matches and the doubles with Colin Fleming and we're back in the world group.

I think it's easier for other top players to prioritise Davis Cup when they have a team capable of winning. Would the other top players play in the zones 2 tiers below the elite group? Possibly, but I doubt very much they'd be making those ties a priority in their schedule.

To be fair, you guys have some capable doubles players. You only need three wins. But yes, he is hardly in the same position as nole and rafa, where there are strong #2 guys. Roger bother me much more, where they have the singles talent to be a real threat.

I'm afraid 'capable' isn't always enough and so many of our doubles players mix and match quite a bit. A doubles win still puts pressure on Andy to win both his rubbers.

I can't say I understand Roger's lack of play for Switzerland but I guess he could argue that he's done enough for tennis in Switzerland. I doubt at this point in his career he would make it any sort of a priority.
 

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I have to give a 'shout out' for my Aussies....Oi,Oi,Oi, who have returned to the World Group for the first time since 2007.Australia d Poland 4-1.Australia will learn their first 2014 world group opponents on Wednesday.I was impressed with Tomic winning both his singles matches on his least favourite surface clay.
 

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Moxie629 said:
Iona16 said:
Riotbeard said:
Moxie629 said:
Thanks for the heads-up, Iona and JLLB. I'm looking forward to checking out the new kid.

Gotta feel for Argentina. They don't have their big guns, and Nalbandian, who wants to play for it and win it so much, is unlikely to get his chance this year. Serbia should take Canada, too. Does Djokovic get another "Davis Cup Bump" from this run? :cool:

You read my optimistic Novak fan mind! I hope so. He and Nadal both seem to really take playing for country to heart unlike Fed and Andy. Not that those guys don't care, but it doesn't seem to be a priority.

I do think Andy has been unfairly criticised when it comes to Davis Cup. Great Britain don't have 5-10 guys in the top 50-100. We have Andy. That is it. The player that occupies the British no.2 ranking is usually hovering around the 200 mark. How many other countries have ONE player in the top 200? On many occasions Andy turned up and won both his rubbers only to see us lose the tie. It's hard to win a tie when you're the only elite player. We ended up in the E&A zone II. Even in those ties we were still the favourites when Andy didn't play. We still lost. Andy felt the other players had to step up. The GB captain agreed and he said Andy could do more for British tennis by concentrating on his own career. I think he has done just that. Andy has done his bit for team GB over the years. This weekend he won both his singles matches and the doubles with Colin Fleming and we're back in the world group.

I think it's easier for other top players to prioritise Davis Cup when they have a team capable of winning. Would the other top players play in the zones 2 tiers below the elite group? Possibly, but I doubt very much they'd be making those ties a priority in their schedule.

Congrats on Britain winning, Iona! They do have that young Evans, so that's a help.

I'm not sure what you're complaining about Andy getting a hard time, but that could be local. You're right to say that players like Novak and Rafa play DC with a real chance of winning. Roger has been very much criticized for not playing for Switzerland, except when he has to, to qualify for the Olympics. I think there is nothing wrong with top players focusing on themselves, to the knock-on benefit of local tennis.

BTW: After a few of you mentioned young Brona Coric, I just realized he won the boys' singles at the USO this year. Clearly he is someone to watch.

Thanks Moxie. My point about Andy wasn't directed at Riotbeard or anyone else on this forum. I should have made that clearer. I was making a general point. Andy has been criticised by the British media in the past and some foreign media have made comments without knowing all the facts. Dan Evans admitted that 2013 has been the year he has finally committed to being a professional tennis player. His work ethic in the past was poor - his words. The same can be said for some other British players in the past - too spoiled by the LTA. A fact that didn't go unnoticed by Andy.

I've no problem with players focusing on themselves. I think that is what they should do. In the end when it comes to Davis Cup I only really care about the GB team do.
 

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Riotbeard said:
Serbia is in the final. Normally I wouldn't care (after the U.S. gets knocked out), but it means a lot to Nole!

Congratulations to Serbia! :clap