US Politics Thread

[Federberg]

I honestly find it very difficult to believe that Biden would act with integrity in this or any other matter. The democrats are fatally toxic. If Trump was implicated, we know - loudly. Likewise, by the way, with Bubba. I think the Epstein files might eventually become famous for letting everyone down..

I'm not sure why you feel that way. Do I agree with a lot of the Biden policies? No! But competence, or policy stupidity is different from what we have right now. We have a President accepting a $400m plane from a foreign country. We have a President pardoning a crypto billionaire who's gone into business with the Trump family. All the front running of the markets off classified war information. I could go on. People talk about the Hunter Biden stuff as if it was the height of corruption, but say nothing about Jared Kushner getting billions from gulf countries. They talk about Hillary's emails, but don't really make a big deal about Hegseth having a WhatsApp group in which he discusses classified information BEFORE a combat operation. These are different levels of corruption. Even if we think the Biden Administration lacked integrity, he wasn't forcing the DoJ to do things. Hell a US Attorney was investigating his son. When I think of the Biden Administration the first thing that comes to mind is that cross dressing staffer. I can never get it out of my mind! It's weird, it's stupid, it's woke... but not this..

 

[Kieran]

I'm not sure why you feel that way. Do I agree with a lot of the Biden policies? No! But competence, or policy stupidity is different from what we have right now. We have a President accepting a $400m plane from a foreign country. We have a President pardoning a crypto billionaire who's gone into business with the Trump family. All the front running of the markets off classified war information. I could go on. People talk about the Hunter Biden stuff as if it was the height of corruption, but say nothing about Jared Kushner getting billions from gulf countries. They talk about Hillary's emails, but don't really make a big deal about Hegseth having a WhatsApp group in which he discusses classified information BEFORE a combat operation. These are different levels of corruption. Even if we think the Biden Administration lacked integrity, he wasn't forcing the DoJ to do things. Hell a US Attorney was investigating his son. When I think of the Biden Administration the first thing that comes to mind is that cross dressing staffer. I can never get it out of my mind! It's weird, it's stupid, it's woke... but not this..

I wouldn’t trust the democrats as far as I could throw them. They incite violence and disorder, they’re evil, they abuse kids, and they make up shit regarding race and whatever else is trending. They’re captive to the worst sort of violent activists who are about as bright as a broken bulb in a dark cave. Dangerous, intolerant, bigoted people tell the democrats what to think, and unthinkingly they start to think it.

They’re no longer “liberal” and they’re the reason why Trump is in office. I actually had some hopes for Biden when he was elected, that he might read the room and try to be a president for all Americans but he wasn’t the man for that. We saw all the signs when he selected the cackling Meme, Kamala Harris, as his Veep based solely on her colour. When he encouraged violence during the George Floyd trial by saying he hoped the jury came to the right decision “for George.”

I remember him from the eighties when he had to drop out of the presidential election after being caught plagiarising the Welsh windbag. He’s a hopeless careerist, that type of politician who sits on a safe seat and muddles along. He might have been a better hope for America in 2016 than the entitled wife of a former president, but by the time he got the job, he was past it..

 

[Murat B.]

If half of what I am reading about SPLC is true, it confirms everything I have said and every suspicion I have had about the left in the US. Their existence depends on poor staying poor, blacks staying as slaves and racism continuously kept on life support to be revived when convenient. They are an evil party. They stand for nothing but evil.

 

[Kieran]

If half of what I am reading about SPLC is true, it confirms everything I have said and every suspicion I have had about the left in the US. Their existence depends on poor staying poor, blacks staying as slaves and racism continuously kept on life support to be revived when convenient. They are an evil party. They stand for nothing but evil.

Yeah, the Superbitch organisation of the poor and trampled, who was taking money from the KKK while simultaneously condemning them. The blurb is that - according to the attorney general - they’re “manufacturing racism in order to justify their existence.”

These wealthy trolls targeted Ayaan Hirsi Ali, most famous for the fact she escaped Islam and the became its most stalwart and erudite critic, a crime to so many on the left.

They’ve offshored a stash of their ill gotten gains, and they’ll be stoutly defended by the mad…

 

[Federberg]

Am I being cynical wondering about this assassination thing? I'm keeping an eye on Trump's polling numbers after this. So asking all of you? Is this a banana in a tail pipe?

 

[Murat B.]

Am I being cynical wondering about this assassination thing? I'm keeping an eye on Trump's polling numbers after this. So asking all of you? Is this a banana in a tail pipe?

You are being cynical but it is not your fault. We lost the ability to think straight and clear. This is the zeitgeist.

 

[britbox]

Am I being cynical wondering about this assassination thing? I'm keeping an eye on Trump's polling numbers after this. So asking all of you? Is this a banana in a tail pipe?

I was suspicious of the first one to be honest. I'll sit on this one for now but if a raft of new laws get passed very quickly afterward then I'll be even more of a cynic.

The footage was interesting. They got Vance out a lot quicker than Trump. Meanwhile Vance's partner seemed to be just left there cowering under the table.

 

[Kieran]

Am I being cynical wondering about this assassination thing? I'm keeping an eye on Trump's polling numbers after this. So asking all of you? Is this a banana in a tail pipe?

Cynicism is the common thing these days. Charlie Kirk committed suicide, or something. The left are violent, and their hyperbolic rhetoric creates the climate for justifying violence, then they deny it and claim these evil Nazis obvious staged it, because we’re just innocent good guys.

But sometimes something is what it is. They’re not good guys, the left was anyways violent, going back to Karl Marx encouraging the death of millions until his permanent revolution succeeds, and the reigns of communism everywhere in the twentieth century.

We’re going to face a tidal wave of misinformation right now..

 

[Federberg]

Cynicism is the common thing these days. Charlie Kirk committed suicide, or something. The left are violent, and their hyperbolic rhetoric creates the climate for justifying violence, then they deny it and claim these evil Nazis obvious staged it, because we’re just innocent good guys.

But sometimes something is what it is. They’re not good guys, the left was anyways violent, going back to Karl Marx encouraging the death of millions until his permanent revolution succeeds, and the reigns of communism everywhere in the twentieth century.

We’re going to face a tidal wave of misinformation right now..

I think that both sides have been deranged and violent. I'm not sure it's fair to imply it's only one side. Also it's not clear that these nutters are specifically affiliated. Some of the attempts seem so improbable and incompetent, the first thing I think of is, does this person have some terminal disease and they're going for suicide by cop?

 

[Federberg]

I was suspicious of the first one to be honest. I'll sit on this one for now but if a raft of new laws get passed very quickly afterward then I'll be even more of a cynic.

The footage was interesting. They got Vance out a lot quicker than Trump. Meanwhile Vance's partner seemed to be just left there cowering under the table.

yes that was odd how they treated Vance. Wonder what that was about

 

[Federberg]

You are being cynical but it is not your fault. We lost the ability to think straight and clear. This is the zeitgeist.

that's an interesting take. I was just listening to a podcast where Anne Applebaum was saying a lot of European officials were wondering the same thing... isn't unclear thinking or just the disaster that this Administration is?

 

[Kieran]

I think that both sides have been deranged and violent. I'm not sure it's fair to imply it's only one side. Also it's not clear that these nutters are specifically affiliated. Some of the attempts seem so improbable and incompetent, the first thing I think of is, does this person have some terminal disease and they're going for suicide by cop?

There’s only one side causing race riots and becoming violent when they don’t like something, threatening Jews, looting, destroying property. Constant barrages of useless idiots blocking city streets pretending they’re protesting but really, they’re insurgents demanding a dictatorship of mono-thought.

I don’t think that the right are using rhetoric that demonises opponents to such an extent that they feel violence is not only justified, but satisfying, and a thing to be celebrated. Imagine the response on the street if Charlie Kirk had been a darling of the left. The fact that he wasn’t still prompted a reaction from the compassionate ones: they celebrated, loudly.

 

[Murat B.]

that's an interesting take. I was just listening to a podcast where Anne Applebaum was saying a lot of European officials were wondering the same thing... isn't unclear thinking or just the disaster that this Administration is?

This has got nothing to do with the administration. This is a combination of media losing all objectivity, social media and its famous algorithms amping up everything, internet fucking everything up.
As a thought experiment, pick a presidency before the interwebs and subjective media, look at all the events of that presidency, small or big, and imagine they were happening today and apply the media and social media standards of today to these events. EVERY presidency , starting from the first one, looks like the shit show not unlike what is happening today.

 

[Federberg]

This has got nothing to do with the administration. This is a combination of media losing all objectivity, social media and its famous algorithms amping up everything, internet fucking everything up.
As a thought experiment, pick a presidency before the interwebs and subjective media, look at all the events of that presidency, small or big, and imagine they were happening today and apply the media and social media standards of today to these events. EVERY presidency , starting from the first one, looks like the shit show not unlike what is happening today.

lol! no! Yes things happen in every administration, but not this cluster fuck of incompetence, irrational outbursts from the leader. Blatant corruption, personalised international relations.. I could go on. No mate.. this administration is not normal. Not even close. And for that reason even foreign governments have to pause and ask themselves when something like last weekend happens... is it real or is there some false flag drama. I'm not saying it was. I'm saying that fact that it's a legit consideration for many is in itself a sad thing.

 

[Federberg]

There’s only one side causing race riots and becoming violent when they don’t like something, threatening Jews, looting, destroying property. Constant barrages of useless idiots blocking city streets pretending they’re protesting but really, they’re insurgents demanding a dictatorship of mono-thought.

I don’t think that the right are using rhetoric that demonises opponents to such an extent that they feel violence is not only justified, but satisfying, and a thing to be celebrated. Imagine the response on the street if Charlie Kirk had been a darling of the left. The fact that he wasn’t still prompted a reaction from the compassionate ones: they celebrated, loudly.

errr... have we forgotten January 6th? Have we forgotten the assault of Paul Pelosi? Have we forgotten the foiled attempt to kidnap the governor of Michigan? I could go on... there are nutters everywhere mate

 

[Kieran]

errr... have we forgotten January 6th? Have we forgotten the assault of Paul Pelosi? Have we forgotten the foiled attempt to kidnap the governor of Michigan? I could go on... there are nutters everywhere mate

No we haven’t forgotten them but the prevailing culture is leftist and it comes accompanied by violence. We can’t forget the race riots either, the looting and terror. The celebration of crime. I have no difficulty thinking a deranged leftist went on a self-righteous march to kill the president. Like Luigi Mangioni, he’d be celebrated as a hero. They’ve completely lost their moral compass…not that they ever had one..

 

[Federberg]

No we haven’t forgotten them but the prevailing culture is leftist and it comes accompanied by violence. We can’t forget the race riots either, the looting and terror. The celebration of crime. I have no difficulty thinking a deranged leftist went on a self-righteous march to kill the president. Like Luigi Mangioni, he’d be celebrated as a hero. They’ve completely lost their moral compass…not that they ever had one..

hmmmm... Luigi Mangioni is an interesting case. I'm not sure people think of him as coming from the left. I think that's a genuine class thing. I'll guarantee you that middle and lower income Trump voters have just as much loathing of healthcare companies as those on the Dem side do

 

[Kieran]

hmmmm... Luigi Mangioni is an interesting case. I'm not sure people think of him as coming from the left. I think that's a genuine class thing. I'll guarantee you that middle and lower income Trump voters have just as much loathing of healthcare companies as those on the Dem side do

No I’m saying that, like him, “he’d be celebrated as a hero.” Already I’ve seen reels with these no good clowns praying for Trumps assassination and waking up hoping he’s been killed…

 

[Murat B.]

lol! no! Yes things happen in every administration, but not this cluster fuck of incompetence, irrational outbursts from the leader. Blatant corruption, personalised international relations.. I could go on. No mate.. this administration is not normal. Not even close. And for that reason even foreign governments have to pause and ask themselves when something like last weekend happens... is it real or is there some false flag drama. I'm not saying it was. I'm saying that fact that it's a legit consideration for many is in itself a sad thing.

You are not getting my point. It is not about the "cluster fuck of incompetence" . It is about how it is portrayed in the media and how it divides people people.
Give me one event that happened pre internet and let me show you how to "modernize " it for you and let me know what you think.