US Politics Thread

[Murat B.]

Maybe, or it could be like Orwell's 1984... under an all encompassing technocracy. Certainly seems to be the way things are being set up behind the scenes. Iran and Russia are part of that too - Digital ID, Digital Currencies, Transaction Monitoring - every country on earth seems to be implementing it while the citizens are distracted by debating who is worst psychopath on the world stage.

Brother, are you trying to kill the last percentage point of positivity I have left for mankind's future?

 

[Federberg]

Guys.. I'm concerned.. and not like Susan Collins. There's no way for Trump to spin this. Iran, the global media, social media will make it very clear that everyone knows that he lost this strategic battle. What do you think a sociopath like him will do, to recover from this humiliation? I don't know.. but it's not likely to be good!

 

[Murat B.]

Guys.. I'm concerned.. and not like Susan Collins. There's no way for Trump to spin this. Iran, the global media, social media will make it very clear that everyone knows that he lost this strategic battle. What do you think a sociopath like him will do, to recover from this humiliation? I don't know.. but it's not likely to be good!

You sound like you do not know Trump at all. He has already spun it in his mind and he is sleeping like a baby. He is a bit, let's just say, different ...

 

[britbox]

Brother, are you trying to kill the last percentage point of positivity I have left for mankind's future?

Oh, there is always hope mate.I actually love a lot of the incoming technology even though it's a bit of a double edged sword. Let's hope sane minds prevail in the long term.

 

[Federberg]

You sound like you do not know Trump at all. He has already spun it in his mind and he is sleeping like a baby. He is a bit, let's just say, different ...

No mate. We all know he lies but he doesn’t necessarily believe the lie. In fact he becomes hostile to those who don’t accept his narratives. Like believing an election was stolen. Look at the lengths he’s gone to, to create that reality. What will he do this time? Perhaps you need to think more carefully about this. It could lead to catastrophe

 

[mrzz]

Technical question: if everytime that a person travels he or she feels a deep compulsion to kill all the American tourists that he or she finds, does it make him or her a terrorist?

Just asking for a friend...

 

[Kieran]

This bloke is one of the best piss takers on social media. Sometimes he passes himself off a trans-Native American - a white man who identifies as a Native American - and “liberals” get the spooks because they don’t want to be on the wrong side of history - and virtue.

 

[britbox]

Technical question: if everytime that a person travels he or she feels a deep compulsion to kill all the American tourists that he or she finds, does it make him or her a terrorist?

Just asking for a friend...

Is your friend a terrorist or an American (or both)?

 

[Federberg]

 

[Federberg]

Brilliant!

 

[Federberg]

If this is the same picture that Trump posted on his platform, did no one tell him who the patient looks like??

 

[Federberg]

This is really worth a read

 

[Federberg]

This is really worth a read

@britbox let me know what you think

 

[britbox]

@britbox let me know what you think

I think he's correct that the visible level of government we elect in democratic systems don't really run things or hold real power. I don't think the AI is the source of power either - it's a tool - albeit a very powerful one.

My gut feeling is that these technologies have been around for a long time and drip fed into the public domain. A form of Internet (ARAPNET) was being developed in military circles in the 50s, Blackrock has been using their form of AI (Aladdin) since the 90s to snap up control of the world's assets.

I guess there is a chance that some of these technologies went rogue (or could go rogue) in a Frankenstein's monster kind of way... but I doubt it.

The other things this guy was talking about - getting everyone in Africa connected up - is a part of Agenda 2030 - Everything needs to be connected up - it's the Internet of Things, The Internet of Bodies - there is copious amounts of documentation... and this has been a long time in the planning - Schwaub's WEF and Stakeholder Capitalism has it's roots in the Rockefeller/Zbigniew Brzezinski doctrine. Check out Brzezinski's book "Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era" - it's over 50 years old but describes what is happening. Of course, Schwaub, Rockefeller, Brzezinski, Kissinger were all cut from the same cloth.

The other interesting thing the guy said was that humans not augmented by the AI would be classed as almost a different species... there is the transhumanism aspect for you. Another key aspect of Agenda 2030. Maybe the most important one of the lot. You can't patent nature but you can patent nature augmented by invention.

 

[Kieran]

I guess there is a chance that some of these technologies went rogue (or could go rogue) in a Frankenstein's monster kind of way... but I doubt it.

Just on this, do you think it’s impossible for AI to go rogue? Or do you just mean this example?

I heard the other day that AI can blackmail the user, which is a weird, terrifying and kinda comical development..

 

[britbox]

Just on this, do you think it’s impossible for AI to go rogue? Or do you just mean this example?

I heard the other day that AI can blackmail the user, which is a weird, terrifying and kinda comical development..

I don't think it's impossible - just unlikely in the way and scale he's suggesting. There is also the complexity that something could be programmed to appear to be rogue... or indeed be rogue upto a certain level.

 

[Federberg]

I don't think it's impossible - just unlikely in the way and scale he's suggesting. There is also the complexity that something could be programmed to appear to be rogue... or indeed be rogue upto a certain level.

Is it possible you're too wedded to your theory of a shadow elite that you're not considering the possibility that said elite could be usurped by AI?

Re: the list of names you mentioned... the obvious connection I could see is that they're Jewish? Is there another connection?

 

[britbox]

Is it possible you're too wedded to your theory of a shadow elite that you're not considering the possibility that said elite could be usurped by AI?

Re: the list of names you mentioned... the obvious connection I could see is that they're Jewish? Is there another connection?

I wasn't aware Rockefeller or Schwab were Jewish - where do you source that from?

Yes, there are plenty of connections between the four. Three of them were on the trilateral commission, and Kissinger was Schwab's mentor. But the bigger connections are the ideas they were wedded to for a global order, and all the NGOs they'be been involved with.

Which elite are you referring to? Your elected "elite" or the global elite?

 

[Murat B.]

Guys, none of this matters...apparently we are in a simulation , one of endless versions of this multiverse of games. You can all relax. In another version it is all peace .

 

[Federberg]

I wasn't aware Rockefeller or Schwab were Jewish - where do you source that from?

Yes, there are plenty of connections between the four. Three of them were on the trilateral commission, and Kissinger was Schwab's mentor. But the bigger connections are the ideas they were wedded to for a global order, and all the NGOs they'be been involved with.

Which elite are you referring to? Your elected "elite" or the global elite?

actually just checked, you're correct, Schwab and Rockefeller aren't Jewish.

by elite, I was referring to your understanding of that term... global elite