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I'm always happy to help a dummy. It's my civic duty. You have the gall to imply that there's nothing physically wrong with Federer in that match, when it was blatantly obvious and not a huge surprise after Montreal. Yet people like you have argued for years that Rafa, before losing to Soderling, was already showing signs of injury in his prior match against Hewitt which was a straight sets slaughter. You are such a biased poster I don't even know why I bother responding, but sometimes your nonsense needs to be pointed out. The problem is you're so stupid you can't even see it
If you would have a little more brain and not to be such a biased poster and knowing more about this sport and the injuries and the consequences you would know that Rafa was injured in RG 2009 and he had to pull out Wimbledon and being not just two weeks off but several months out of the court. The big problem to you is that you can't understand the logic and the good sense because you have 0
 

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I did not see this match in full. I saw the terrible TB in second set and the last few games. It is very clear that Roger will not win USO. Someone or other will stop him very soon. Actually, I would rather Roger lose to someone before SF.

I can't believe I'm typing this but I'd be very surprised if he beats Lopez. And if he gets by him even Kohlslaw is a threat if that's the 4th round.
 

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Rafa's truly unbeatable years on clay was exactly when he was super young. 2007-2008 as well as a portion of 2010 (although he had already lost some movement after the injury). This isn't that surprising, most great players peak on natural surfaces at much younger ages. Rogers truly unbeatable years on grass was 2003-2005 and even though he was still dominant in 2006 onwards, it was never quite the same. Sampras was the same way, Borg was the same way, McEnroe the same. etc etc

You learn more as you get older, but youth has stamina/movement advantages as well as somewhat paradoxical advantages in the mental department relative to how you are as you age.
 

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If you would have a little more brain and not to be such a biased poster and knowing more about this sport and the injuries and the consequences you would know that Rafa was injured in RG 2009 and he had to pull out Wimbledon and being not just two weeks off but several months out of the court

Good grief you're dumb. You don't see a parallel? Roger pulled out of Cincy for a reason. Grow some brain cells, you're making my point but you're not smart enough to see it
 

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I can't believe I'm typing this but I'd be very surprised if he beats Lopez. And if he gets by him even Kohlslaw is a threat if that's the 4th round.

Likewise. Unless he miraculously improves on the weekend, he's a goner. A horrific thought to lose against Lopez but quite possible. Needs attack his backhand and hope he (Lopez) serves like dog sh1t 'cos it's a given Roger will in his current state.
 

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Kee-rist. Roger's game is way off. Tiafoe and Youzhny have to be kicking themselves. Meanwhile Feli Lopez is hoping Roger's still playing this bad - and up-and-down - on Saturday. Then again maybe I jinxed him when i said he'd open a can of whoop ass on Youzhny like he generally does. If so...my bad...but I don't think it was me getting ahead of myself because the first set was a can of whoop ass... Roger and his whole team have GOT to be worried about these ridic mental lapses when serving for the set/match. It's happening way too often this year.
 

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His backhand is better now and your point?
He has improved in many things BH, FH and volleys and of course on HC (it doesn't matter how bad is playing this season) comparing when he was 20
 

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Like I said I hope she smacked the shit out of him for playing Montreal without any practice after Wimbledon.

LOL! As a woman I should be offended for making light of domestic violence...but I'm not...because that's funny...
 
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Likewise. Unless he miraculously improves on the weekend, he's a goner. A horrific thought to lose against Lopez but quite possible. Needs attack his backhand and hope he (Lopez) serves like dog sh1t 'cos it's a given Roger will in his current state.

I didn't see the whole match - just bits and pieces - and what I did see was ugly. But, the thing that's struck me is that he's not attacking the net or changing his game up the way he usually does. And when he does - his volleys are sucking. But yeah...if he plays like this on Saturday Feli Lopez will improve his H2H to 1 win and 12 losses.
 

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Good grief you're dumb. You don't see a parallel? Roger pulled out of Cincy for a reason. Grow some brain cells, you're making my point but you're not smart enough to see it
Besides you look completely burned out I see perfectly well a parallel, the big difference is that if they are injured like Roger felt in Montreal they have to pull out not just two weeks because its not enough to heal an injury, they need at least three months off or on the contrary the injury would get worse and I don't think it's so difficult to understand unless someone is so brainless like you
 
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Wow, nasty thread. I don't really want to join the shit-slinging, but I do have a question for Carol. Amidst all of the flying feces, I am unclear about something: Do you actually think that Roger is not at least somewhat hurting?
 

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I thought your comment wasn't restricted to this one. If Cilic can win a slam, Grigor can

It wasn't restricting it to this Slam and we'll have to agree to disagree. The difference between Cilic and Dimitrov is the Cilic hits big and can hit and serve guys off the court. Dimitrov doesn't do either of those things on a consistent enough basis. And secondly - I don't think he really understands how to play the game well enough and his in the moment decision-making frequently sucks. I said when he won Cincy that it was blip on the radar because he didn't have to play any of the Big 4, his opponent was a headcase and there was no pressure. He came in the USO with high expectations - and once again fell flat on his face. The only way he could win a Slam is to have a similar sitch as Cincy - and even then he'd probably find a way to blow it.
 
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I didn't see any of the match. Just home from work, and still working, tbh. (Hoping to be done to watch Rafa.) But I have no problem believing that Roger was far from 100%. I mean...Youzhny? Where's he been for the last two years? I'm shocked by the score. And the last 4 pages of this thread.
 

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Hey, Rafa in 2009 was injured, he didn't play Wimbledon
I didn't see any of the match. Just home from work, and still working, tbh. (Hoping to be done to watch Rafa.) But I have no problem believing that Roger was far from 100%. I mean...Youzhny? Where's he been for the last two years? I'm shocked by the score. And the last 4 pages of this thread.
you ain't missed nothing but Darth being mean to Miss Carol and I while Ole grandpa Fed limped home over the younger geezer Youzhny..Lol
 

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It wasn't restricting it to this Slam and we'll have to agree to disagree. The difference between Cilic and Dimitrov is the Cilic hits big and can hit and serve guys off the court. Dimitrov doesn't do either of those things on a consistent enough basis. And secondly - I don't think he really understands how to play the game well enough and his in the moment decision-making frequently sucks. I said when he won Cincy that it was blip on the radar because he didn't have to play any of the Big 4, his opponent was a headcase and there was no pressure. He came in the USO with high expectations - and once again fell flat on his face. The only way he could win a Slam is to have a similar sitch as Cincy - and even then he'd probably find a way to blow it.

Hate to agree but it seems to be the case. If Grigor couldn't make a run here it's never happening. Given the state of Fed and everyone else missing I feel like what should've been a QF with Rafa may have almost felt like a final especially if Cilic doesn't make it from the bottom half.
 

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Wow, nasty thread. I don't really want to join the shit-slinging, but I do have a question for Carol. Amidst all of the flying feces, I am unclear about something: Do you actually think that Roger is not at least somewhat hurting?
If he is somewhat hurting I don't understand why he is playing because by logic that discomfort can get worse and more in his age. He said a few days ego that he was perfectly well, if he is then it's ok but if he is not then he is just hurting himself. According to some posters he is not moving and playing well in both matches he has played and that's why I'm saying if he is hurted he should take more time to heal whatever is his back issue and I don't understand why his fans can be offended about something so logic and elemental
 
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